Seed of Beast?

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Esau was the lump made for dishonor. Yahweh knew from the womb what Esau would do.
But Esau's sin is his own, and his bastard children cannot be blamed on God.

[Staropramen]

But Staropramen, if God made them; why would he want them dashed against stones?
Doesn't God love everybody...

At the Judgement of Nations doesn't everybody end-up holding hands and singing under a rainbow!

Romans 9:13 "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."

Romans 9:21 "Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?"

Joe was joking.

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Joe was joking.

Evidently. However Yahweh still did not create Esau's bastard children. That is why they are vessels of destruction.

Yahweh DID create Esau, as a lump of dishonor, for which there is no doubt.

2ndWitness is misapplying the analogy.

[2ndWitness]

But Staropramen, if God made them; why would he want them dashed against stones?

Pretty glad I'm not living under the old covenant.

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But Staropramen, if God made them; why would he want them dashed against stones?

Pretty glad I'm not living under the old covenant.

The New Covenant holds a future which is no different.

18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

[Joe]

Bill wrote

Evidently. However Yahweh still did not create Esau's bastard children. That is why they are vessels of destruction.

Yahweh DID create Esau, as a lump of dishonor, for which there is no doubt.

Well I learned something from this post.

I wasn't clear in my initial post.
People say "it's not the bastard's fault it is a bastard"

I was simply trying to say that I don't care about the bastard at all, I cannot sympathize with a bastard. The only relevant point is that they are outside God's Law.

I regret my joke, maybe it is the Irish in me.

[Catherine]

"Frankly, I find it impossible to differentiate between general True White European (=Adamites) and alleged pure Israelites."

Someone in the know please tell me, how do I know if I'm a "True White European" or an alleged pure Israelite?

[Joe]

None of us can know for sure Catherine, only Christ can divide the wheat from the tares. And His gospel will divide the wheat from the tares.

I think if you receive the message of the Bible, and you behave and look white ...then we should accept you.

[MichaelAllen]

"Frankly, I find it impossible to differentiate between general True White European (=Adamites) and alleged pure Israelites."

Someone in the know please tell me, how do I know if I'm a "True White European" or an alleged pure Israelite?

Catherine, this is part of the story of Abraham's inheritance. His anointed (Christos) seed would inherit the white world. That happened by the time of the first century.

When a racially pure Adamite marries an Israelite, the offspring can be reckoned as an Israelite.

The message of the national covenant applies only to Israel, obviously, however, the remediation of Adam's death sentence is open to all racially pure Adamites. The gospel is a twofold reconciliation. All of national Israel in the redemption story, and the remedy of Adam's trespass. One of these days I want to write an essay about the phenomenon of the reign of death that Adam's children were under until Christ, and how this relates to the national kingdom message.

[Kentucky]

We need to remember that when Jacob's (an Adamite) name changed to Israel, he was still an Adamite. An Adamite and an Israelite are both of the White race. The word "israel" was simply a title or designation that God bestowed upon a certain seedline of Adamites.

Mark