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Rationalizing the Bastards

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Re: Rationalizing the Bastards

Postby wmfinck » Sun May 04, 2014 9:43 am

fistofyahweh wrote:So I have a question... Would Yahweh's spirit push a bastard out of a true CI congregation? ...


One illicit relationship over 250 years and you are not who you think you are. How many Bathshebas never got caught and went back home to their Uriahs?

There are people who are clearly bastards, and we must reject them. But neither do the rest of us have any solid assurance, because none of us have all of our genealogies. That was part of our punishment, to forget who we were.

If you believe in what you are doing, and that the racial message of covenant theology is right, then you should not be found fighting against Yahweh, and you should let your faith rule your life. If you love His Word and His law, that says a lot for who you truly are. But the fruit of those things is reflected in love towards your kinsmen.

When the Wheat are finally separated from the tares there will probably be surprises in both directions. That is the mystery of leaven. Once it is mixed with the flour, men cannot see it for themselves. That is why the Word of God must be our divider.
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Re: Rationalizing the Bastards

Postby Gaius » Sun May 04, 2014 10:19 am

Thanks for a strong word on this issue, Bill, in your podcast.

I tend to think that once true Israel gets the truth, it leads to repentance and the consequent change of attitude/conduct. This is in fact a mark of true Israel, and also of those who are not ...

In this regard, the comment left by Visser would appear to speak volumes.
As to Kennedy, Spears et al, time will tell ....
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Re: Rationalizing the Bastards

Postby Staropramen » Sun May 04, 2014 10:38 am

Something has to resonate inside in order to fully embrace the Truth. Why else would anyone embrace this worldview that makes you reviled and hated by so many? Of course there are infiltrators but they know what they are doing and sooner or later they're id'd and given the boot. I don't think it's possible for a non-Israelite to honestly embrace CI for any length of time. Look at what a tough time most of our true kin have with it!
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Re: Rationalizing the Bastards

Postby Staropramen » Sun May 04, 2014 10:42 am

LOL @ Bill's comments last night about November claiming Luke as an ancestor based on info from a website that thinks Luke was a sand nigger!
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Re: Rationalizing the Bastards

Postby SvenLongshanks » Sun May 04, 2014 11:26 am

Excellent podcast last night Bill, definitely one of your best. Thankyou! :beer:
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Proving what I said on last night's program about Luke

Postby wmfinck » Sun May 04, 2014 11:47 am

From http://isogg.org/famousdna.htm

Luke the Evangelist - aka St. Luke

A doctor, but better known as the biblical author of the "Gospel According to Luke", Luke the Evangelist was believed to have been born in Antioch, in the Roman province of Syria. Historical sources cite that he died at the age of 84 in Thebes (Greece) around the year 150 A.D. His body was interred first in Constantinople, and then later transferred to Padua, Italy. Geneticists have tested the remains believed to be those of Luke, and sampled Syrian and Greek populations for comparison. They've determined that the body attributed as Luke's, is likely of Syrian origin.
(Source article)
Name Haplo mtDNA Sequence
Luke H 16235G, 16291T


Admittedly, they claim to have compared MODERN DNA from Syria and Greece to DNA believed to be from the body of Luke, and then they claim that Luke's DNA matches the DNA of modern Syrians.

SEE ALSO THIS WEBSITE AND THE PDF FILE PROVIDED THERE: http://www.pnas.org/content/98/23/13460.full.pdf+html

Now I know they are all full of SH*T, however if one today claims to be related to Luke according to what 23andme tells them, then one is basically admitting to being a sand-nigger.

That is how clowns like Eli James, who think they are much smarter than they actually are, outwit themselves in the end.

It is all documented here at john844.org:
http://john844.org/eli-antoinette
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Re: Rationalizing the Bastards

Postby wmfinck » Sun May 04, 2014 12:07 pm

Thanks for the edifying comments, guys.
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Re: Rationalizing the Bastards

Postby Lang » Sun May 04, 2014 12:11 pm

Look at what a tough time most of our true kin have with it!


The toughest way of life ever. We live life on hard mode, lol.
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Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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Re: Rationalizing the Bastards

Postby mchawe » Sun May 04, 2014 1:52 pm

If you believe in what you are doing, and that the racial message of covenant theology is right, then you should not be found fighting against Yahweh, and you should let your faith rule your life. If you love His Word and His law, that says a lot for who you truly are. But the fruit of those things is reflected in love towards your kinsmen.


Thank you Bill for those words.

"There will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth."

My father was English with a pedigree going back to the 17th century. His family actually produced a book in the 19th century showing his lineage. But who knows if there were skeletons in the cupboard? My mother was Northern Irish and I have no doubt about her lineage. Her maiden name was Grant and I believe the name Grant comes from Scotland. They were "Protestants" who lorded it over the indigenous Celts in Northern Ireland.
However in the 16th Century the Spanish Armada was defeated and their ships were wrecked around the Coast of Scotland. Many of those shipwrecked sailors settled there. Well we know something about the Spanish. Jews were ejected from Spain by Ferdinand and Isabella after they had done a lot of damage and went to Holland. Spanish blood was already tainted. (If you are Dutch I suspect you ab initio!)
The "pure" Scottish blood could now contain the blood of Jews! Nobody knows if we are 100% pure blooded. Only Christ!
Arnold Leese (God rest his soul) (http://www.heretical.com/British/jews1290.html) died in 1956 and would be horrified today at what is going on in Britain. He reckoned back then that only 65% of the British people were untainted!
I am a Bible Ignoramus and have spent hours and hours on this site, listening and reading.
To me the word of Yahweh RESONATES in all my being. I detest race-mixing with a vengeance! Yet I may be A tare for all I know. SO BE IT ! As far as I am concerned SO BE IT.

Now I have a question. Bill, in your podcast, "Christian Identity Directions: Sons or Bastards" you say that the Israelites purged themselves during their 40 years in the wilderness. How did they do that? By exile or execution? And then they had a census in the plains of MOAB. How did they know for sure that there were no bastards in their midst?
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Re: Rationalizing the Bastards

Postby Lang » Sun May 04, 2014 2:14 pm

Jews were ejected from Spain by Ferdinand and Isabella after they had done a lot of damage and went to Holland. Spanish blood was already tainted. (If you are Dutch I suspect you ab initio!)
The "pure" Scottish blood could now contain the blood of Jews!


It doesn't means the spanish, dutch and scottish populations are tainted as a whole. It only means some of them are. Out of 3 portuguese coming to Brazil, 1 one of them was a jew. I'm 25% portuguese from those who came to Brazil. So I have 33.3% of chance of being a jew. I think thats even more suspect than a dutch, lol. We can't judge someone based on this kind of thing. This is too much of a generalization. If we are not sons, we are going to die and nothing can be done. But scottish and dutch are perfectly white for me, unless someone can prove that that person in special is a jew. Spain is more tainted mainly in the region of Andalusia. But I think that northerns are white.
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Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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