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Re: Nonwhite Churches

Postby Staropramen » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:24 pm

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wmfinck wrote:EDIT: What about watching tv shows, cartoons, movies and playing video games that feature nonwhites, is that considered sinful? It's a serious question.


I'm really, really into music. I don't think it is "sinful" per se to listen to music by non-whites. But I have found that the more involved I get with Christian Identity the more I naturally lose interest in music by non-whites. Not because the music suddenly "sounds bad" but I'm more sensitive to the spiritual aspect coming from some music than I was before.
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Re: Nonwhite Churches

Postby Xile » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:58 am

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Xile wrote:
wmfinck wrote:EDIT: What about watching tv shows, cartoons, movies and playing video games that feature nonwhites, is that considered sinful? It's a serious question.


I'm really, really into music. I don't think it is "sinful" per se to listen to music by non-whites. But I have found that the more involved I get with Christian Identity the more I naturally lose interest in music by non-whites. Not because the music suddenly "sounds bad" but I'm more sensitive to the spiritual aspect coming from some music than I was before.


Anything ungodly makes me lose interest nowadays. Blues and Jazz are some of my favorite styles for the guitar. I even listen to acid jazz (South Korean). I prefer instrumental pieces, because people usually sing about things that have little value to me.
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Re: Nonwhite Churches

Postby Staropramen » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:53 am

Xile wrote:Anything ungodly makes me lose interest nowadays. Blues and Jazz are some of my favorite styles for the guitar. I even listen to acid jazz (South Korean). I prefer instrumental pieces, because people usually sing about things that have little value to me.


I've always had a disdain for blues music. In it's earliest form it was nothing more than sloppy attempts by blacks to play traditional White folk music that they picked up on here and which dated back many centuries in Europe. So much for their originality.

Acid Jazz is a term which popped up in the 90's to refer to Jazz recordings from the period 1970-1975 [roughly] where the focus was on simpler compositions, a steady 3/4 funk beat and making Jazz more accessible to mainstream popular music listeners. This music was scoffed at by Jazz purists at the time and at one point you couldn't give these records away until rap noise makers started sampling from them and suddenly overnight their value skyrocketed.

So what is Korean Acid Jazz exactly?
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Re: Nonwhite Churches

Postby Xile » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:31 am

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Xile wrote:Anything ungodly makes me lose interest nowadays. Blues and Jazz are some of my favorite styles for the guitar. I even listen to acid jazz (South Korean). I prefer instrumental pieces, because people usually sing about things that have little value to me.


I've always had a disdain for blues music. In it's earliest form it was nothing more than sloppy attempts by blacks to play traditional White folk music that they picked up on here and which dated back many centuries in Europe. So much for their originality.

Acid Jazz is a term which popped up in the 90's to refer to Jazz recordings from the period 1970-1975 [roughly] where the focus was on simpler compositions, a steady 3/4 funk beat and making Jazz more accessible to mainstream popular music listeners. This music was scoffed at by Jazz purists at the time and at one point you couldn't give these records away until rap noise makers started sampling from them and suddenly overnight their value skyrocketed.

So what is Korean Acid Jazz exactly?


Something like this:



Jamming to this type of music is really fun, even though I'm not very good at the guitar.

But I find myself really liking older country music.



I also like ragtime!



I used to not care much for many of these styles until I started playing the guitar. God gave me the gift of music and I feel the music beyond simple chord progressions and what the Hz frequency each instrument is tuned under. Music tells a story, it's not just science. :beer:

Tbh, people call genre by some sort of musical theory I call it by what I hear, lol. For example, a country piece might actually be bluegrass or jazz/swing but I would still call it country, because of the impression that i get.

I think this thread is starting to derail, lol.
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Re: Nonwhite Churches

Postby wmfinck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:03 am

Xile wrote:
Staropramen wrote:
wmfinck wrote:EDIT: What about watching tv shows, cartoons, movies and playing video games that feature nonwhites, is that considered sinful? It's a serious question.


This thread is derailed, because wmfinck never wrote this. Please get your quotes straight.

Think about all of the hours you wasted in front of the television or the silly video games, and how you could have spent that time studying and learning something real, or helping people in your family or community. Instead it is wasted, and there is nothing to show for it except your memories of peculiar terms that describe some other idiot's fantasies.

The children of Israel were chastised by God because they ate and they drank, then rose up to play.

The word muse to the Greeks described the arts and sciences and inspired creativity of men. The 'a' is the negative particle. Grown men should not need to be a-mused. We have a mission from our Father which we abandon when we tie up our time in silly games.

And yes, I spent, or rather wasted, my youth in much the same trap.
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Re: Nonwhite Churches

Postby Filidh » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:04 am

Xile, i'm sure most of us have wasted enough time on escapist false-realities that we know to not waste any more on it, but instead be productive with ourselves and increase our own ability to serve yahshua. i know i've wasted enough time on movies, tv, games, to equate to around three or four full, 24-hour-day, 365-day-year, actual years. how much further along i'd be if i hadn't wasted so much time is so ridiculous that i can't think of a metaphor for it.

being finished with watching tv, movies, games, and so on is what's important. because we're able to be better folks without them. if there's a particular movie that presents a particular worldview that you believe is worth sharing, then watch it once or twice, and then be done with it forever. however, such movies are so rare that they're able to be counted with your fingers.

nonetheless, we're able to convert the shame of wasted time into inspirational energy for present and future action!

don't follow that same path.

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Re: Nonwhite Churches

Postby Xile » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:05 am

wmfinck wrote:
Staropramen wrote:
Xile wrote:EDIT: What about watching tv shows, cartoons, movies and playing video games that feature nonwhites, is that considered sinful? It's a serious question.


This thread is derailed, because wmfinck never wrote this. Please get your quotes straight.

Think about all of the hours you wasted in front of the television or the silly video games, and how you could have spent that time studying and learning something real, or helping people in your family or community. Instead it is wasted, and there is nothing to show for it except your memories of peculiar terms that describe some other idiot's fantasies.

The children of Israel were chastised by God because they ate and they drank, then rose up to play.

The word muse to the Greeks described the arts and sciences and inspired creativity of men. The 'a' is the negative particle. Grown men should not need to be a-mused. We have a mission from our Father which we abandon when we tie up our time in silly games.

And yes, I spent, or rather wasted, my youth in much the same trap.


I hope you aren't talking about me, because I wasn't the one who quoted that as though it were from you.

Edit: I agree that we all spend too much time on materialistic things instead of studying the Bible, as we should. Then again, you must realize that many books, movies, games are based on scriptures, so in a way - I could gain a spiritual understanding from someone else's point of view.

Take for example Lord of the Rings and Dungeons & Dragons. I see the Word of God in certain scenarios. I know that J.R.R Tolkien was friend's with C.S. Lewis. I don't know a single fantasy role playing game that isn't at least 1/4 based on Tolkien.

I don't consider all gaming a waste of time. You really think that I regret spending so many hours there? Everything happens for a reason and I am still here today, doing what God expects of me. Not every person's journey will be the same or even similar, but the destination still remains according to what God has decided for us.
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Re: Nonwhite Churches

Postby wmfinck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:27 pm

Since the dawn of time man has sought to justify his behavior for himself. Not that we don't all err, we certainly do. But the rationalization of error comes from blindness of pride.

You will not find agreement here concerning those silly games, under any circumstances. Your rationalizing is irrational. There is a lot of trash which can claim to be based on the Bible, but that does not make it good.
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Re: Nonwhite Churches

Postby Staropramen » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:54 pm

When I quoted Xile's original question I must not have deleted all the irrelevant parts of the post properly and somehow his question got attributed to Bill, who was quoted saying something else in Xile's post.

Sorry about that.
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Re: Nonwhite Churches

Postby Xile » Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:55 am

wmfinck wrote:Since the dawn of time man has sought to justify his behavior for himself. Not that we don't all err, we certainly do. But the rationalization of error comes from blindness of pride.

You will not find agreement here concerning those silly games, under any circumstances. Your rationalizing is irrational. There is a lot of trash which can claim to be based on the Bible, but that does not make it good.


I occasionally play video games, I'm not trying to justify it. I'm simply stating what I do and don't see how it is hazardous for me. It is pride because I have different interests from you? I guess people shouldn't go fishing either, because if they aren't working or studying the Bible, then they are wasting time. :roll:

Define "good", I hear that word get thrown around from any denomination these days and not one person could give me a definitive answer. The correct answer is that whatever is Godly = good. When the apostles wanted to stop someone for casting out demons in Jesus's name, they were rebuked, because that person was doing good.

If I am doing evil then the Holy Spirit will let me know, but it is silent on these matters.
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