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Brother Ryan on White Nationalism

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Re: Brother Ryan on White Nationalism

Postby Vandal » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:25 am

Michael wrote:Where I refer to those local comunities living under "CI theology" is where I acknowledge that the only constitution necessary is that of the Word of Yahweh. I apologise if I was not as clear as I should have been. I do not think I would be on this forum if I did not believe in that.


Would that make the U.S. Constitution and the Constitutions of the several states unnecessary?
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Re: Brother Ryan on White Nationalism

Postby Vandal » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:27 am

Looking at the tattoos. Talk about "wearing your religion on your shirt sleeve."
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Re: Brother Ryan on White Nationalism

Postby Kentucky » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:59 pm

Vandal wrote:Looking at the tattoos. Talk about "wearing your religion on your shirt sleeve."

It's quite difficult to turn a blind eye to something that is so in your face. I looked at his website this morning and one cannot help but notice the effort that went into the marketing of all the imagery and as Michael put it "a reaction to this screwed up world we live in." However, it seems to eclipse the content or distract the visitor from textual content or perhaps even flavor the content with pop subculture and it becomes nothing more than his personal propaganda style. Unfortunately, with all this effort, the aesthetics of vinegar and skin inking will only attract connoisseurs of vinegar and blue skin. The racial message is lost with personal proclivities.

His preoccupation with anarchy also seemed to take great license and latitude with peripheral sources to buttress his ideology. For example, he linked to Bill's article 'There Is No Political Solution' in which anarchy is not only not mentioned, but does not give credence to as something related to Christianity. In my estimation, this comes close to unethical, if not outright dishonesty.

In fact, the circle A symbol is displayed profusely throughout his website and in case anyone is not familiar with these desperadoes, they are the ones who wear black and ski masks during public confrontations and are the ones smashing store windows of people who are trying to make an honest living; and then they spray paint the circle A on the sides of buildings that are not their property. Oh, and the background for the web pages were really upbeat with monochromatic red depictions of a world decimated by some sort of thermonuclear exchange. Something they look forward to I guess. In that event, I suppose they would be free to do their anarchy thing to their heart's content.

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Re: Brother Ryan on White Nationalism

Postby Nayto » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:42 am

Kentucky wrote:"a reaction to this screwed up world we live in."


Sounds like conflict theory AKA marxism. I never understood this approach, at least on a subjective level. As Aryans we should move through the world purposefully and subdue it, not react. Reaction can be controlled...
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Re: Brother Ryan on White Nationalism

Postby Michael » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:28 am

I was just trying to analyse what he was saying, rather then judge him for his look and his surrounding. I did not go to his video channel, so I had no idea that he was still obviously taking pride in defiling his Yahweh given white skin.

As far as the concept of anarchy goes, I think this guy has a warped understanding of the term, and is using it for actions that could well be described as simply resisting the current political order. If it turns out he is a true anarchist, then it follows that he cannot place himself subject to any law, including the Law of Yahweh.
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Re: Brother Ryan on White Nationalism

Postby Michael » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:04 am

"Would that make the U.S. Constitution and the Constitutions of the several states unnecessary?"

Well, in my opinion the US Constitution is a wonderful set of legal parameters that allow citizens of the race and charactor of the Founding Fathers and the then "We The People" to flourish in freedom, independence, and happiness. However, the demographic realities of today, and the likely demographic realities of the future, combined with the fact that the power structure in DC is currently and also for the foreseeable future being run by Edomites, render the Constitution somewhat irrelevant. History has shown that when Edomites get into power, they care nothing for the existing order of things, and if they can get away with it will slap down laws however they want. Likewise history has shown that once non-whites enter a civilised society, that civil society is destroyed.

An analygous case is that which is happening in Scandanavia at present. Scandanavia from the early part of the 20th century followed a socialistic mode of society, with reletively high taxes, but full provision of health care etc. This worked fine, as the white folk there never abused the system. Today, Third Worlders abuse that same system.

As aryan folk, we are cognitive beings, and so it is not difficult to foresee that unless something is done to stop this current order of society and body politic in the US, then it is reasonably foreseeable that the USA in a number of generations time will resemble the current South Africa. It's a tuff pill to swallow, but it is a reasonably foreseeable reality, its happenning to all former white nations, and it is of course Yahweh's judgement on our Folk for not decerning His Word correctly, and not following His Law.

This was the reason that I said what I did, as ultimately Yahweh's Law is the only Law that counts. In short, I would say that the US Constitution is certainly not unnecessary, however evolving demographic and power structure realities in the US will over time render the Constitution irrelevant as a means to protect white civilisation....in my opinion.
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Re: Brother Ryan on White Nationalism

Postby Kentucky » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:39 pm

Michael wrote:I was just trying to analyse what he was saying, rather then judge him for his look and his surrounding. I did not go to his video channel, so I had no idea that he was still obviously taking pride in defiling his Yahweh given white skin.

I don't know about a video channel, but here's his website http://www.brotherryan.com You might notice, after you're blasted out of your seat from the musical intro on the home page, the lyrics of the first line: "I come on my own authority" (the title of the song is 'A New Religion; 2 members of the band go by the names of Lance Rodriguez and Danny Mestizo). Nice huh?

As far as the concept of anarchy goes, I think this guy has a warped understanding of the term, and is using it for actions that could well be described as simply resisting the current political order. If it turns out he is a true anarchist, then it follows that he cannot place himself subject to any law, including the Law of Yahweh.

I get the impression that ideologically, he is opposed to any social construct for law and order. His version of nature's law is not what the founding fathers were talking about. His version is comparatively connected to the law of the jungle, of animals, of Darwinian 'survival of the fittest.' There are other concurrent barnacles of deviant thinking that try to attach themselves to Christian Identity to wit: there is now a new branch of yet another manifestation of 'Aryan Nations' in the form of a motorcycle club called 'The Sadistic Souls.'

I am of the firm belief that AN died with Pastor Butler and that the subsequent reincarnations have very little to do with the Word or Christian Identity . It's much like the misguided youth who try and emulate National Socialism through the trappings of jewish Hollywood, never really bothering to read Mein Kampf. Brother Ryan should be known by the company he keeps (not good). Along with the 'Sadistic Souls', the two-faced Janissary of neo-Aryan Nations is not the hoped-for camaraderie that will bring about unity or even peace among the brethren. This is proven by the viscous internecine warfare being waged by the little wannabe Hitlers claiming the Holy Grail namesake of AN since Pastor Butler passed away.

This is what our adversaries love to depict in their media machine and the "clowns" love to be the stars of the show. 99% of Christian Identity is not like this, but the squeaky wheel gets the attention. Some may say, "Yeah, that's the point!" But, I don't recall the Disciples dressing up in Bozo outfits.

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Re: Leading Whites in the White Nationalist Movement

Postby Zenas » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:22 pm

A former Aryan nations member, good friends with the late Richard Butler, showed me a video of a "leading" Aryan nations spokesperson, Tom Metzger.

The video showed Metzger visiting a Mexican border town (Tijuana?). A mamzer comes up to Metzger, someone Metzger obvious knew, and they greet each other like long lost buddies. Metzger then goes into a bar and proceeds to get drunk. His "body guard," someone my acquaintance tells me was released from prison early on the agreement that he would be Metzger's "handler," aka, a jew plant that would keep tabs on Tom. We watch as Metzger, obviously drunk, proceeds to chew up his handler for not "protecting" him by leaving him to fend for himself on the streets and in the pubs of Mexico for an indeterminate amount of time. Some Aryan White Nationalist leader.

Another contact here in the Northwest Front "homeland" I had the opportunity to meet with on two occasions talked a good talk. I checked his FB page to find three niggers and a mixed race "friend" in his "friends" list.

Then there is some Aryan bitch named Axis Sally, former NWF spokesperson, complete with several podcasts alongside Harold Covington telling other whites what they should be doing - i.e., "get your butts up to the Northwest." Rather than helpful, she was a snotty feminist bitch, late replying to my inquiries. Turns out she has starred in more than one porn flick doing unmentionable things on camera. I have not seen those unmentionables, mind you, but I've been well advised they do exist and are unmentionable. Even Covington wouldn't - in his words - "go there."

I've had several email contacts with the Great Leader, Harold Covington. No time now to go into those exchanges, except to say the entire NWF "movement" is, from what I can ascertain, with or without Tom Metzger or Covington as the Grand Poobah, assuming of course there is a "movement," nothing more than a bowel movement.
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Re: Brother Ryan on White Nationalism

Postby Michael » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:20 pm

Yeah, Zenas, here is Metzger doing more of what you are describing.

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Re: Brother Ryan on White Nationalism

Postby Kentucky » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:42 pm

Michael wrote:Yeah, Zenas, here is Metzger doing more of what you are describing.



The link has been removed.

When Metzger lost to Morris Dees in court, Dees legally took possession of his Post Office Box, intercepting all mail, including all contributions and personal correspondence, which were no doubt forwarded to the FBI and/or the Ethiopian family. There is no reason to believe that the judgment from the court has been terminated. Metzger was compromised a long time ago and has no credibility. The sad thing is, his wife was Christian Identity although he was not; she has since passed away.

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