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List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Joe » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:00 am

Richard wrote
What next . . .

Do you like pretzels Richard?

1 Peter 3:7– “Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the weaker vessel.”

'Weaker vessel'?, no, it actually means 'stronger vessel', as we shall see.
First the commentator talks about his honest approach to Scripture. Even providing this quote.

A very large part of man’s difficulties with the Bible comes from not noting exactly what it says. Time and time again men have come to me and said, “I cannot believe this which the Bible says,” and then have quoted something which they supposed the Bible said. But I have replied, “The Bible does not say that,” and when we have looked it up, lo, it is some minute modification of what the Bible really says that has given rise to the difficulty. The Bible is always so absolutely exact, that I have found the best solution for very many apparent difficulties in the Bible to be to take the difficult verses precisely as they read. (The Voice of God in the Present Hour, pp. 11–12)


So you can immediately see that we are going to get a plain, no-nonsense, interpretation from the get-go. And here it is:

Remember, the structure of the phrase is, “Show her honor as a weaker vessel.” The central word is honor, a term of value, worth, and respect. The illustrative word, vessel, is a term for pottery, often used as a metaphor for people since God is compared to a potter (see Romans 9:20-23).

[...]

What’s the connection between honor and pottery? We tend to think of weakness in terms of inferiority. But in pottery, the finer a vessel is, the more valuable it is.

Its weakness doesn’t mean it’s more dependent. It means it’s more valuable.


And there you have it.
It means 'more valuable' ...perhaps even stronger. So 'weaker' = more valuable.
We don't even need a Strong's concordance for this one.
Done
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From Staro's post:
What are criminals known for carrying with them? Weapons, and to be numbered among criminals, Jesus must also have weapons.


So Jesus should act like a criminal, literally become or take-on characteristics of a criminal, to 'fulfill prophecy'. Wow.
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Staropramen » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:42 am

Bill vs. a judeo-tard on the Alba Voce radio program 4/25/13. Thanks to Ruthless B for informing me about this exchange;

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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby wmfinck » Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:19 am

LOL, I never listened to this again until just now. I was already disgusted for all the technical problems. Then the host disappeared due to some technical failure. (The host, David Baillee, is actually a well-meaning guy, but he was having a bad day.) Then this clown comes along and just wouldn't shut up. Wow, I wanted to choke his dumb ass. But later I found he is some sort of mamzer. He even complained to Blogtalk about me, haha.
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby MikeTheAdamite » Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:54 am

Staropramen wrote:Bill vs. a judeo-tard on the Alba Voce radio program 4/25/13. Thanks to Ruthless B for informing me about this exchange;



Can you repost the link please staroperamen?it doesn't seem to work!
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Staropramen » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:40 pm

MikeTheAdamite wrote:
Staropramen wrote:Bill vs. a judeo-tard on the Alba Voce radio program 4/25/13. Thanks to Ruthless B for informing me about this exchange;



Can you repost the link please staroperamen?it doesn't seem to work!


If the embedded player doesn't work download it here;

http://files.christogenea.org/audios/st ... voce-42513
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby EzraLB » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:47 pm

wmfinck wrote:Then this clown comes along and just wouldn't shut up. Wow, I wanted to choke his dumb ass. But later I found he is some sort of mamzer. He even complained to Blogtalk about me, haha.


His name is Matthew Scott Senge, a professional and convicted con artist, who has started his own "Road To Redemption Ministry" to use as a cover for his illegal proclivities. A con artist posing as a "redeemed" Christian is nothing new, but I guess it's working for him--he recently ripped off some woman of thousands of dollars earlier this year. And yes, Bill, he is obviously some sort of mamzer, as his mugshot attests:
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Staropramen » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:52 am

Joe wrote:So you can immediately see that we are going to get a plain, no-nonsense, interpretation from the get-go. And here it is:

Remember, the structure of the phrase is, “Show her honor as a weaker vessel.” The central word is honor, a term of value, worth, and respect. The illustrative word, vessel, is a term for pottery, often used as a metaphor for people since God is compared to a potter (see Romans 9:20-23).

[...]

What’s the connection between honor and pottery? We tend to think of weakness in terms of inferiority. But in pottery, the finer a vessel is, the more valuable it is.

Its weakness doesn’t mean it’s more dependent. It means it’s more valuable.


And there you have it.
It means 'more valuable' ...perhaps even stronger. So 'weaker' = more valuable.
We don't even need a Strong's concordance for this one.


I've never heard this before. Are you sure about this? The MGTOW contingent on Teamspeak isn't going to like this one bit :twisted:
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby wmfinck » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:25 am

Actually the word translated as weaker in 1 Peter 3:7 is ἀσθενής and it is literally without strength, the α being a prefix negating the root word σθένος, or strength. It is often translated as feeble, and literally means weak.

I have never seen it mean honorable. While it certainly does not denote dishonor, the assertion that it means to describe something more honorable is contrived.

Bone china is actually prized for its delicacy and strength, not its delicacy and weakness. Much heavier clay vessels can actually break more easily than good bone china, and under less stress. While many women may indeed have such a quality that can be described as bone china, delicate yet strong, that is not, in my honest opinion, an analogy which Peter was making here.
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Joe » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:28 am

Staropramen wrote
I've never heard this before. Are you sure about this? The MGTOW contingent on Teamspeak isn't going to like this one bit :twisted:


I do not agree with the commentary at all, that is from a jewdeoxtian writer, Eric Pazdziora. I was pointing-out how he can -completely reverse- the verse to suit his agenda while claiming he is giving an honest analysis.

There are MGTOW CI ?
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Staropramen » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:37 am

Joe wrote:Staropramen wrote
I've never heard this before. Are you sure about this? The MGTOW contingent on Teamspeak isn't going to like this one bit :twisted:


I do not agree with the commentary at all, that is from a jewdeoxtian writer, Eric Pazdziora. I was pointing-out how he can -completely reverse- the verse to suit his agenda while claiming he is giving an honest analysis.

There are MGTOW CI ?


Ooops. Sorry. :oops:

There are some fellows in CI who make MGTOW-ish statements sometimes. But they realize that ultimately it's a kike deception.
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