10 Lost Tribes became the samaritans?

[soaren]

And then we descended from the Samaratians?

Do I have this right?

[Staropramen]

Sometimes names like Samaritan or Moabite are just geographical distinctions. Ruth was only a Moabite by geography because the racial Moabites had been driven out or killed by the Israelites long before her time. The woman that Jesus called a dog was referred to as a canaanite by Matthew who was a Judean Israelite that understood that history. Mark on the otherhand used the term Syrophoenician to describe her because that is how a Greek would have described her. Greeks would not know of or understand the term canaanite.

[Joe]

No and like Staropramen said, -some- Samaritans were probably Israelites by race at the time of Christ. But the tribes did not become the Samaritans.

From Bill's podcast on Luke 10, which includes a commentary on the good Samaritan.
- See more at: http://christogenea.org/podcasts/gospel ... nTXVC.dpuf

It is clear in history, especially in Josephus, that the Judaeans despised the Samaritans, but that in spite of that, there were Samaritans who attempted to cling to the religion of Israel over many generations. They even built their own temple on Mount Gerrizzim, which the woman refers to when she says “our fathers have worshipped on this mountain”. Here these Samaritans are not despised by Christ, and Christ does not deny the woman's claim to Israelite heritage. The Judaeans of the return from Babylon were acting out of the need for a national survival mechanism, but that does not mean that many of those Samaritans were not Israel. The Judaeans, out of practical necessity, were reckoning Israel by recorded genealogy only, something that any Israelites left in Samaria had long ago lost. By the time that Judaea was corrupted and began absorbing other peoples, the Samaritans were already their enemies, and remained so, therefore the Judaeans looked down upon them and refused any communion with them. This Samaritan woman anticipated the coming of the Messiah, and by all measures, and in all her sin, she was nevertheless certainly an Israelite.

[Staropramen]

Jethro/Reuel/Raguel is an interesting example of this. A Medianite by race for he was a White descendant of Abraham and Keturah. But he was also a Cushite/Ethiopian by geography and a Kenite [a Smith] by profession. Ignorant judeos love to claim that Moses married a nigger and that Aaron and Miriam were a couple of evil racists. But Zipporah was a White woman, a descendant of Abraham. Moses's siblings took issue with the fact that she wasn't an Israelite. The problem wasn't her race.

From "Whom did Moses Marry" by Bertrand Comparet;

In Genesis 25:6 it says,

“But unto the Sons of the concubines which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward unto the east country.”

Logically, he would want them to move more than just a few miles, as the whole idea was to send them far enough away that they would not be neighbours of Isaac, quarrelling with him over the inheritance. The next place of any importance to which they could go was this kingdom of Cush, in the valleys of the Rivers Tigris and Euphrates, the same country which at other times was part of the important Babylonian Empire. So Midian and his descendants became “Cushites”, people living in the Kingdom of Cush; but remember that by race, they were descendants of Abraham, closely related to Isaac and his descendants the Israelites, although they remained a separate nation and never became part of Israel.

[NicoChristian]

Jethro/Reuel/Raguel is an interesting example of this. A Medianite by race for he was a White descendant of Abraham and Keturah. But he was also a Cushite/Ethiopian by geography and a Kenite [a Smith] by profession. Ignorant judeos love to claim that Moses married a nigger and that Aaron and Miriam were a couple of evil racists. But Zipporah was a White woman, a descendant of Abraham. Moses's siblings took issue with the fact that she wasn't an Israelite. The problem wasn't her race.

From "Whom did Moses Marry" by Bertrand Comparet;

In Genesis 25:6 it says,

“But unto the Sons of the concubines which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward unto the east country.”

Logically, he would want them to move more than just a few miles, as the whole idea was to send
them far enough away that they would not be neighbours of Isaac, quarrelling with him over the inheritance. The next place of any importance to which they could go was this kingdom of Cush, in
the valleys of the Rivers Tigris and Euphrates, the same country which at other times was part of
the important Babylonian Empire. So Midian and his descendants became “Cushites”, people
living in the Kingdom of Cush; but remember that by race, they were descendants of Abraham,
closely related to Isaac and his descendants the Israelites, although they remained a separate
nation and never became part of Israel.

Even in the movie the ten commandments, Zipporah was portrayed as a white woman. I don't understand how this crazy notion of Zipporah being a negress began. In the King James version the word Ethiopian is used; but many updated versions use Cushite or Midianite. Moses was raised amongst the royalty of Egypt. He would never consider a groid as a suitable wife. The idea is ludicrous.

[Staropramen]

Even in the movie the ten commandments, Zipporah was portrayed as a white woman. I don't understand how this crazy notion of Zipporah being a negress began. In the King James version the word Ethiopian is used; but many updated versions use Cushite or Midianite. Moses was raised amongst the royalty of Egypt. He would never consider a groid as a suitable wife. The idea is ludicrous.

I haven't seen that movie since I was a kid! But that's a good point.

[wmfinck]

Even in the movie the ten commandments, Zipporah was portrayed as a white woman. I don't understand how this crazy notion of Zipporah being a negress began. In the King James version the word Ethiopian is used; but many updated versions use Cushite or Midianite. Moses was raised amongst the royalty of Egypt. He would never consider a groid as a suitable wife. The idea is ludicrous.

I haven't seen that movie since I was a kid! But that's a good point.

The Jews that made the movie might read this one day and regret the opportunity they missed!

[2ndWitness]

Jethro/Reuel/Raguel is an interesting example of this. A Medianite by race for he was a White descendant of Abraham and Keturah. But he was also a Cushite/Ethiopian by geography and a Kenite [a Smith] by profession. Ignorant judeos love to claim that Moses married a nigger and that Aaron and Miriam were a couple of evil racists. But Zipporah was a White woman, a descendant of Abraham. Moses's siblings took issue with the fact that she wasn't an Israelite. The problem wasn't her race.

From "Whom did Moses Marry" by Bertrand Comparet;

In Genesis 25:6 it says,

“But unto the Sons of the concubines which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward unto the east country.”

Logically, he would want them to move more than just a few miles, as the whole idea was to send them far enough away that they would not be neighbours of Isaac, quarrelling with him over the inheritance. The next place of any importance to which they could go was this kingdom of Cush, in the valleys of the Rivers Tigris and Euphrates, the same country which at other times was part of the important Babylonian Empire. So Midian and his descendants became “Cushites”, people living in the Kingdom of Cush; but remember that by race, they were descendants of Abraham, closely related to Isaac and his descendants the Israelites, although they remained a separate nation and never became part of Israel.

Hebrew Cush becomes Kish in Sumerian. The people who think that all races came from Noah and his family... all of whom were pure in their genetics... believe in an even stranger form of evolution than Darwin did... VERY fast turn-around, indeed. But isn't there a link between the Samaritans and the Sarmatians? Some say that the Sarmatians come from a mixture of Amazons and Scythians. And aren't Amazons just a mythological name for some portion of the Greeks? I forget where I read it, now, but what happened with the mass marriage... was it 100 or 1000... between Alexander's men and one of the Middle East people? My instinct says that's where the Sarmatians came from.

Can someone point me in the direction of a thread dealing with the Egyptians as Semites?... according to the Rawlinson definition of ethnographic rather than ethnologic, re: Genesis 10? I'd like to be here a little longer than a few hours before I start hijacking threads.

[Staropramen]

Can someone point me in the direction of a thread dealing with the Egyptians as Semites?... according to the Rawlinson definition of ethnographic rather than ethnologic, re: Genesis 10? I'd like to be here a little longer than a few hours before I start hijacking threads.

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