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Re: Greetings from South Africa (Sigh)

Postby viking » Wed May 21, 2014 5:18 am

wmfinck wrote:
The Wisdom of Sirach, chapter 12 wrote:1 When thou wilt do good know to whom thou doest it; so shalt thou be thanked for thy benefits.
2 Do good to the godly man, and thou shalt find a recompence; and if not from him, yet from the most High.
3 There can no good come to him that is always occupied in evil, nor to him that giveth no alms.
4 Give to the godly man, and help not a sinner.
5 Do well unto him that is lowly, but give not to the ungodly: hold back thy bread, and give it not unto him, lest he overmaster thee thereby: for else thou shalt receive twice as much evil for all the good thou shalt have done unto him.
6 For the most High hateth sinners, and will repay vengeance unto the ungodly, and keepeth them against the mighty day of their punishment.
7 Give unto the good, and help not the sinner.
8 A friend cannot be known in prosperity: and an enemy cannot be hidden in adversity.
9 In the prosperity of a man enemies will be grieved: but in his adversity even a friend will depart.
10 Never trust thine enemy: for like as iron rusteth, so is his wickedness.
11 Though he humble himself, and go crouching, yet take good heed and beware of him, and thou shalt be unto him as if thou hadst wiped a lookingglass, and thou shalt know that his rust hath not been altogether wiped away.
12 Set him not by thee, lest, when he hath overthrown thee, he stand up in thy place; neither let him sit at thy right hand, lest he seek to take thy seat, and thou at the last remember my words, and be pricked therewith.
13 Who will pity a charmer that is bitten with a serpent, or any such as come nigh wild beasts?
14 So one that goeth to a sinner, and is defiled with him in his sins, who will pity?
15 For a while he will abide with thee, but if thou begin to fall, he will not tarry.
16 An enemy speaketh sweetly with his lips, but in his heart he imagineth how to throw thee into a pit: he will weep with his eyes, but if he find opportunity, he will not be satisfied with blood.
17 If adversity come upon thee, thou shalt find him there first; and though he pretend to help thee, yet shall he undermine thee.
18 He will shake his head, and clap his hands, and whisper much, and change his countenance.


WOW!
This is very, very timeous -

I am currently involved in a very tedious problem with a so-called christian brother
(he sits in his church every week and does the sound system)

I could not leave the problem, nor write it off.
It got to the point where I had to consider legal action (no other options left)

I've long since given up the notion that we must forgive our brother "regardless". This philosophy
results only in the tolerance of evil

The extract above well describes this individual; he makes a big show of pretending to be a "lowly christian", he likes to play "woe is me", weeps crocodile tears, tells everyone in his church how he has "extended his hand in friendship" to me, but refuses to rectify his behavior.

The details are probably unimportant here, but in desperation I got hold of his "pastor" and we had an hour long session, where I explained my position, and WARNED him in no uncertain terms that should this individual continue to play games with me, legal action would ensue.

The pastor looked aghast, but promised to do something, and to speak to this individual.

Delay tactics and all kinds of excuses then took place; not responding to messages, ignoring emails, refusing to make an official statement on my allegations etc etc.

The pastor at one point sent me a message saying he couldn't understand why I was making such a big deal, ie taking legal action. But since going to my "brother" did not not work, since discussing the situation with his friends did not work, since discussing it with his pastor (representative of Christ?) did not work, the legal route was taken.

At one point, his pastor sent me an email saying that he did not have time for "such rubbish"
Yet, the man sits in his church! (Every week, doing the sound)

The only communications I have received from this individual consists of gay, effeminate themes such as "he is very hurt", "does not understand" why I am so angry with him, and numerous "invitations to have coffee and a good laugh"

My approach was explicit: I am not interested in being his friend, only interested in the complete restoration of my possessions which were stored at his place (long story)

He refused to respond, refused to be specific, and refused to state whether the particular possessions were still at his place or not.

Nine months later, we are still trying to get to the end of this matter.
(It looks like it might end, finally, though)

Hey, why should I write off a 30-year old guitar which I looked after since I was a wee lad, and is still in mint condition>
Arrangements had been made for a removals company to fetch my collection of guitars, whereupon he refused to release the equipment.

He claimed that he "had not been informed", yet the equipment was to be removed upon his ultimatum that ALL equipment had to be removed "within 10 days".

The date was arranged between himself and the removals company; when they arrived, he was not there.

I had to redo the arrangements, get his pastor involved, whereupon an arrangement was again made
(everything documented, communicated and validated)

The removals company finally moved the load to a store I had rented FOR THIS PURPOSE -
It became apparent that one of the guitars were missing.
We have battled for NINE MONTHS to get some proper response, there is other stuff, sure it's material stuff etc etc - - I'm prepared to write the other missing stuff off, but not the 30 year old guitar

The real issue is that this "christian" could have solved this within a few days - yay or nay, he agrees with the allegations or not, he has the stuff or not, he specifically has x, y or z - or not

No repentance was displayed, no apologies, no actions were taken.
Nothing but an airy-fairy, gay, "I'm very hurt, I cannot understand why you are angry" attitude.

This man is king-of-his-house, he has the keys to his place, he knows his availability, it's not my job to run after him and confirm every little thing with him - he initially refused even to speak to the removal company, etc etc.

Over the years, I've had very bad experiences with my "fellow brethren".
Doctrinal issues are a separate matter.

The scripture says: Lu 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

Note that we SHOULD rebuke. And when do we "forgive"? When our brother r-e-p-e-n-t-s

As if I don't already have enough problems being surrounded by 50 million heathen (sigh)

Certainly, we should not accept crocodile tears from our brethren, I call it "dancing for the cameras"

The scripture says: Php 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

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Re: Greetings from South Africa (Sigh)

Postby viking » Thu May 22, 2014 5:14 am

Staropramen wrote:I can't help but wonder if Apartheid in SA failed in part because it is a sin to help bastards. We shouldn't really be thinking about being separate but at the same time trying to help the other races. Why give them anything when by their nature they will use it against us? We should be separate and leave them to their own devices making sure they will stay where they are or just die off.

Viking, I understand what you are saying about crazy judeochristians. So many of them are liars, hypocrites, deceivers, back-stabbers and clowns. But when you worship jews that's what happens.


Hello Staropramen - -

Of course the ultimate reason for "separate development" failing is NOT because it was oppressive.
It failed because it was not SEPARATE ENOUGH.

From a human perspective, the policy made a lot of sense - just give everyone their space, and let their leaders govern their own people.

My personal experience, having been to about a dozen countries in Africa, and having seen things with my own eyes (not hearsay) is that blacks will ultimately destroy everything.

Having destroyed even the "opportunity" for self-government, and building their own homelands. they turned against the whites and blamed us.

My understanding of God's instructions in the "Old" Testament, is that NO TREATIES should be made with non-Israelites. Today we have the EXACT OPPOSITE of God's commands: A GLOBAL and a VIRTUAL WORLD.

Unlawful trade takes place all over the world: The US TRADING WITH CHINA is one of the biggest reasons America is losing the economics battle - Donald Trump, without realizing it, is in line with many biblical policies: He has very clearly spelt out the STUPIDITY OF AMERICAN BUSINESSMEN:

According to Trump, the Chinese have THREE SCENARIOS when they do business:

1) SCENARIO ONE: The US will never accept our ridiculous terms, but let's take a chance anyway
2) SCENARIO TWO: Since they probably will never accept scenario one, let's tone it down a bit and
make our terms slightly more reasonable
3) SCENARIO THREE: If the Americans are a little bit awake, lets offer them our third scenario. While still unreasonable, and while we will not get as much as in scenario one, it will still be to the advantage of us.
We'll just screw them more the next time around ie try for scenario one again!

According to Trump, the Chinese shake their heads at America's STUPIDITY, they are AMAZED at how of the US businessmen accept the first scenario!

Furthermore, Trump says that the US loses because the Chinese artificially devalue their currency!

Now, imagine how effective this is: if you are doing millions and millions of dollars of business with such a huge market, imagine how easy it is to cripple the value of the dollar.

And we won't even mention the thousands (millions) of Chinese working in the US, taking the real American's jobs.

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Re: Greetings from South Africa (Sigh)

Postby Lang » Thu May 22, 2014 9:38 am

My personal experience, having been to about a dozen countries in Africa, and having seen things with my own eyes (not hearsay) is that blacks will ultimately destroy everything.


Living in a mongrel country myself, I can assure that the more mixed a country is, the more corrupt, violent and rebellious it it. These three things - corruption, violence and rebellion - is the sign of racial degradation. This reminds me of the Haiti's history, the biggest proof of the real nature of blacks. Here is a great video about it:

"Give a hammer to a white, and he will build civilization;
Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
"

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Re: Greetings from South Africa (Sigh)

Postby viking » Fri May 23, 2014 4:23 am

Lang wrote:
My personal experience, having been to about a dozen countries in Africa, and having seen things with my own eyes (not hearsay) is that blacks will ultimately destroy everything.


Living in a mongrel country myself, I can assure that the more mixed a country is, the more corrupt, violent and rebellious it it. These three things - corruption, violence and rebellion - is the sign of racial degradation. This reminds me of the Haiti's history, the biggest proof of the real nature of blacks. Here is a great video about it:



Hello Lang - -

There can't be too many videos around like this.

I can remember some years ago, a "movie" was available called "Addio Africa", produced by
two Italians. They documented the events of Africa over the last few decades, the Mau Mau uprising in Kenya and so on. One tactic of the Kenyans was to go from one side of the country to other and chop the hind legs of all the cattle so that they would bleed to death.

The day after the British left, the locals took bull dozers and flattened many of the colonial homesteads.

The same crazy logic has taken place in South Africa, many abandoned houses on farms or land in South Africa have been pulled down and completely wrecked; you often see little shanties built right next to old colonial style homes (which had been magnificent);
they tear off parts of the house and build toilet-like abodes next to the house, instead of just moving into the house.

There's logic for you!

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Re: Greetings from South Africa (Sigh)

Postby Lang » Fri May 23, 2014 12:20 pm

LOL! Probably they think they have to get rid of the "evil opressor's" influence and try to build their own thing, but miserably fail at that.

Did you like the video? Dr. Pierce has some great videos about race and related things, with a very good propaganda effect.
"Give a hammer to a white, and he will build civilization;
Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
"

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Re: Greetings from South Africa (Sigh)

Postby viking » Sat May 24, 2014 4:18 am

Lang wrote:LOL! Probably they think they have to get rid of the "evil opressor's" influence and try to build their own thing, but miserably fail at that.

Did you like the video? Dr. Pierce has some great videos about race and related things, with a very good propaganda effect.


Hello Lang - -
The video really puts things into perspective;
This view is not generally proclaimed.

The video now gives me a further source for research
(I will do some googling on Dr Pierce)

It helps to find validation of one's beliefs.

I have been feeling very ostracized the last few years.
Despite living in this sewage in South Africa everyday,
whites detest it if you make the slightest remark re the current
situation.

If you stand up for what is right now, you are despised
and even attacked, directly or indirectly.

If I could get out of this country, I would go tomorrow.
I reckon parts of the US are still OK, Australia not bad
and a few countries in Europe OK.

That's about all.

Yet, here I sit, with a South African passport.

I can't survive here because I am white
(no permanent job for almost 15 years, tried to
survive on sub-contracting)

I can't officially work in any other country because
of my South African passport
(in such a case, the company in another country
would have to justify using me as opposed to any
local)

In some countries you may be able to "work" if
no money is exchanged ie you can work and then
get lodging and food; this does not really appear
on any books and sometimes is perfectly legal

How do you survive on your side?

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Re: Greetings from South Africa (Sigh)

Postby Staropramen » Sat May 24, 2014 6:03 am

Viking,
Be careful with William Pierce. He has some good speeches but ultimately he was an antichrist. We as a people are better off with such a ones planted in the ground if they refuse to repent. The last thing we need is some articulate jerk telling Whites that our people need to get rid of Christianity or accept a Christianity that is sympathetic to jews and niggers like Uncle Davey Puke does.
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Re: Greetings from South Africa (Sigh)

Postby Lang » Sat May 24, 2014 12:04 pm

How do you survive on your side?


What I have to say is basically the same as you: I would get out of here today if I could!! If the commies manage to finally take over the country though, I'll get a weekend trip to america and never come back again. I'm right now living in one of the three big remaining white areas of the country (these white areas are the interior of our three southern states, an agglomerate of german, italian and polish settlements, which is what you can call white brazil), but the whites here are unbearable, they're only white in skin, because their spirit got totally niggerfied, except for the ones who are 70+ years old. I live very isolated here as well, I can't stand most people. PM me if you want to talk about our contries and our misfortune to be born in them, haha.

@Staro, Dr. Pierce has some really good videos to people getting started in racial reality, its one of the best educative videos in this sense. To start getting into CI stuff one needs to have a good understanding of race reality at least, and Pierce does this job just fine.
"Give a hammer to a white, and he will build civilization;
Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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Re: Greetings from South Africa (Sigh)

Postby viking » Sun May 25, 2014 4:29 am

Lang wrote:
How do you survive on your side?


What I have to say is basically the same as you: I would get out of here today if I could!! If the commies manage to finally take over the country though, I'll get a weekend trip to america and never come back again. I'm right now living in one of the three big remaining white areas of the country (these white areas are the interior of our three southern states, an agglomerate of german, italian and polish settlements, which is what you can call white brazil), but the whites here are unbearable, they're only white in skin, because their spirit got totally niggerfied, except for the ones who are 70+ years old. I live very isolated here as well, I can't stand most people. PM me if you want to talk about our contries and our misfortune to be born in them, haha.

@Staro, Dr. Pierce has some really good videos to people getting started in racial reality, its one of the best educative videos in this sense. To start getting into CI stuff one needs to have a good understanding of race reality at least, and Pierce does this job just fine.


<<they're only white in skin, because their spirit got totally niggerfied, except for the ones who are 70+ years old>>

Lang, my biggest disappointment is the "spirit" of whites. As you point out, many are only "white in skin"
In South Africa, I would say that the spirit of the whites has become "materialified" - it's all about survival, making a buck and partying on weekends.

Many whites in SA are still lucky because they have jobs, so that's all that counts. Every day I see examples of unchristian behavior; whites against whites. Recently a friend of mine ( I have almost no friends left) told me about yet another fiasco: a neighbor's tree had fallen over into her yard; the fence was crushed, and a large part of the tree then protruded into her driveway.

She tried to make arrangements to address this issue, but ended up only with problems. My friend is quite elderly and lives alone in her house. The neighbor, a white(?) man, gave her endless hassles about how he could not address the issue.

He made excuses about the dump sites not being available, so he was not able to remove any parts of the tree. He also claimed he was not responsible, since he was hiring the house, and the house belonged to some "black church". My friend could not use her driveway, because the tree prevented this.
Eventually he made some effort to cut up some of the tree, but now the issue is removing the cut up branches and stumps.

When my friend tried once again to get hold of him to finish addressing the problem, he became rude and slammed the phone down.

I see this kind of crap every day.

I have been busy with a problem with a so-called christian for about NINE MONTHS - I've spoken to his pastor, I've spoken to his mother, I've spoken to his friends - it's just impossible to resolve!

His friends, including his pastor just run away and refuse to "become involved"

Yet, they all get together every week in their "church" in the name of God.

He accuses me of being "unchristian", but he refuses to acknowledge any responsibility. He has refused to respond to communications, and tells everyone how he has "extended the hand of friendship" to me.

I made it clear that I am NOT interested in being his friend, and am only interested in the resolving of the issue. A few days ago, I tried for the umpteenth time to get one of his friends into the equation, to try to leverage some pressure to get this issue resolved; this "christian friend" promised to call me the next morning to let me know if he would help me or not.

Of course, the return call never came.

Once more, I am left up the creel without a paddle.

This is a particularly disgusting "christian"; his wife walked out on him about 5 years ago, he loves to take a "woe-is-me" approach and refuses to acknowledge his fault. Personally, I predicted that his marriage would never last, many years ago. Of course, this would make me a "bad christian"

But my prediction has played out.

It seems that none of his "church friends" will tackle him on his bad behavior. They prefer to "not get involved" and to "be tolerant" to be "understanding" "loving" etc.

I want to be as far away from this destructive person as possible, he is a walking disaster. My bible says that God is not the author of confusion. Furthermore, Paul is clear that if a brother has been approached, if others are then approached, if the church is then approached, and still the "brother" will not listen,
THEN HE SHOULD BE TREATED AS AN UNBELIEVER.

I have hardly any friends as it is, but I'm not prepared to accept such behavior from anyone. My only option is to walk away

Anyway, I wish you well on your side.
Let's keep in touch.
If you need some encouragement in some way, let me know.

Regards, Viking
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Re: Greetings from South Africa (Sigh)

Postby Lang » Sun May 25, 2014 12:54 pm

@Viking

This sounds exactly like Brazil, LOL! You said it all. People's lives are basically enduring the week, so they can have strong emotions on the weekend, and it repeats endlessly without a higher purpose in life. Dr. Pierce has a video adressing this issue, I think you'll like it:

Its one of the greatest videos Ive seen in life, he adresses perfectly the issue.

How is SA regarding corruption, violence and protests?

Here people protest about everything just for the sake of protesting, corruption is a huge plague and violence is routine.
"Give a hammer to a white, and he will build civilization;
Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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