Admission from a jewish theologian

[MichaelAllen]

This "claim to succession" that the church retained is the doctrine of "spiritual Israel." It stands then to reason that what the Christians originally claimed to be was true genetic Israel.

The term 'spiritual Israel' can be taken two ways. The first is a spiritual Israel within a physical Israel and the second is spiritualized "Israelites" among non-Israelites, also known as universalism. The former could be likened to the contrast between Christian Identity and White Nationalism. The latter convolution of identities is the leaven that jews have infected the church with. In fact, Stephen Jones does the same damn thing. In case some of you haven't heard, the January newsletter of America's Promise has Dave Barley denouncing Jones for his recent proclamation that the Philippines will be the nation and people ushering in the Kingdom of God on earth. That's even too much for other universalists evidently lol.

Mark

Is Stephen Jones on LSD now? Okay sure he's soft on racialism, but what kind of brain malfunction would come up with the idea that Filippinos will usher in the Kingdom? Aren't they like the Mexicans of the far east? What a stupid buffoon. I don't know... I always felt Jones may have been a paid plant or a detractor. He was so soft.

Btw Bill, I just listened to the Martin Luther and jews podcast part 2. Good timing indeed.

And Swordbrethren, just so it's out there, I definitely don't believe in a "good jew" at all! The best jews are perhaps only a little less lethal than others. Even if they are one of these truth-telling types, at best they are a universalist. The problem is, they carry those corrupted genes, and his kids might be the next House of Rothschild or news media change agent.

[wmfinck]

Bill, indeed that would be his agenda, but my point in posting it is that they realize that the early church claimed to be more than simply the "rightful successor." So what more could a rightful successor claim except for true genetic sonship? But of course they have this clarity of thought because it was they who intentionally maligned the reading and interpretation of our New Testament and gave us "spiritual Israel."

The rabbis probably read I Corinthians 10.

Michael, that is the point I made on the program, and the context I used it in.

I ignored the idea that the Rabbi would lay claim to jews being the Jacob side of the equation.

[marc4liberty]

Since 1956, many historical and scientific/genetic studies have proven that the Khazars (Ashkenazi) Jews are not descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and are not even Semitic people. One of these is The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler (who was an Ashkenazi Jew). This link provides a good summary, although it erroneously says that the these Jews are of caucasian origin:

http://rense.com/general89/notjws.htm

[MichaelAllen]

Since 1956, many historical and scientific/genetic studies have proven that the Khazars (Ashkenazi) Jews are not descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and are not even Semitic people. One of these is The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler (who was an Ashkenazi Jew). This link provides a good summary, although it erroneously says that the these Jews are of caucasian origin:

http://rense.com/general89/notjws.htm

I don't want to sound like a jerk, but I'm quite certain that every single member of the forum is aware of that and most have probably read the 13th tribe.

[wmfinck]

Even Arthur Koestler was a typical jew and a thief. The entire Khazar story was told in a six-volume work entitled "History of the Jews" by Heinrich Graetz, and the copy I have here is copyright 1894. Clifton has a copy also, and his has a seventh volume which was not widely published. he has quoted from it in some of his papers. So I would not give Koestler too much credit, LOL.

[MichaelAllen]

I went to Greenpoint this morning and I took that book I previously mentioned to read on the train. The chapter I was reading was a first person account of some religious jew that became a marxist in pre-1917 Russia, openly boasting about being a terrorist and how rabbis nonetheless gave them protection and aided them when they were hiding from the police. I thought it amusing that this self-described "intellectual" had a hard time relating to other revolutionaries who he deemed low class and stupid. But eventually he learned to tolerate them for "the cause".

The piece is entitled "The Life of a Revolutionary Emigre" by Charles Rappaport.

Hey Staropramen,

I just got that book/edition in the mail. Can you tell me which section it was under about the marxist jew being a terrorist?

[marc4liberty]

I just ran across this article on WND. It looks like the "Orthodox" Jews" are now using a new tactic to claim the title of God's "Covenant" people. They are now saying that it has been devinely revealed to Rabbi Kaduri, who died in 2007 at the age of 108, that Yeshua is truly the Messiah of the covenant people (the Jews) and that all "Jews" should believe in Yeshua as the Messiah.

There is no indication in the article if these "converted" Jews would now call themselves Christians, Messianic Jews or something else.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/supernatural ... henomenon/

If I had more confidence that I could withstand the retaliation, I would post a reply and break it to them (the Jews) that they are not the "covenant" people and cannot be saved even if they do believe in Yeshua as the Messiah.

[Lang]

I don't want to sound like a jerk, but I'm quite certain that every single member of the forum is aware of that and most have probably read the 13th tribe.

I'm aware of that but I've never read that book LOL

[bahr]

Re: Admission from a jewish theologian

Unread postby marc4liberty » Today, 05:03
I just ran across this article on WND. It looks like the "Orthodox" Jews" are now using a new tactic to claim the title of the God's "Covenant" people. They are now saying that it has now been devinely revealed to Rabbi Kaduri, who died in 2007 at the age of 108, that Yeshua is truly the Messiah of the covenant people (the Jews) and that all "Jews" should believe in Yeshua as the Messiah.

There is no indication in the article if these "converted" Jews would now call themselves Christians, Messianic Jews or something else.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/supernatural ... henomenon/

If I had more confidence that I could withstand the retaliation, I would post a reply and break it to them (the Jews) that they are not the "covenant" people and cannot be saved even if they do believe in Yeshua as the Messiah.

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They know they can count on the usual useful prostitutes of churchianity which are more than ready to believe their lies and worship them even more. This could be very useful in upcoming conflicts and the safety-deposit boxes are going to fill up once again!

[Staropramen]

I went to Greenpoint this morning and I took that book I previously mentioned to read on the train. The chapter I was reading was a first person account of some religious jew that became a marxist in pre-1917 Russia, openly boasting about being a terrorist and how rabbis nonetheless gave them protection and aided them when they were hiding from the police. I thought it amusing that this self-described "intellectual" had a hard time relating to other revolutionaries who he deemed low class and stupid. But eventually he learned to tolerate them for "the cause".

The piece is entitled "The Life of a Revolutionary Emigre" by Charles Rappaport.

Hey Staropramen,

I just got that book/edition in the mail. Can you tell me which section it was under about the marxist jew being a terrorist?

I just now saw this. Sorry. The book is entitled "Yivo Annual of Jewish Social Science Vol. VI". The Rappaport piece is pages 206-236.