Can a Bastard Sin?

[Nayto]

This debate seems slightly disjointed. It's almost as if GermanSaxon posts should be there, but they're not.

[Nayto]

The good tree produces only good fruit quote I could never fully understand because Esau came from a good tree but he was bad fruit.

Well I just want to point out that we need to be careful how far we want to push this statement. I know pure White people who have done terrible things and we wouldn't have mongrels today if White men and women didn't misceginate in the first place.

I'm not saying the White race isn't good and doesn't produce good fruit, but we need to be realistic about it

[wmfinck]

God hated Esau from the womb. Therefore, it is God who appointed Esau to the precise purpose which he fulfilled: to demonstrate the results of such sin to the rest of us. Esau is our example, and because we did not "get it", today there are millions of men like Esau. That is just one more reason why only God can save us, and also why only God can judge us.

[Kentucky]

The good tree produces only good fruit quote I could never fully understand because Esau came from a good tree but he was bad fruit.

If we reduce it further, it says good cannot produce evil. There's a saying that goes something like "Evil prospers when good men do nothing". To that I would have to say that if they do nothing, they are no longer good. When Esau decided to do evil, he was forsaking his family tree and dishonoring the goodness that God bequeathed. Because our race is tempted, we are admonished to "Abstain from all appearance of evil." When we forsake the good, we can no longer produce good. I think this verse has wide applications ranging from the racial to moral and spiritual issues. We all come from a good tree, and if we remain good, we produce good. But, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and have the potential to produce evil fruit. Thank God we have a Kinsman Redeemer who will forgive us, when we no longer walk after the flesh but after the Spirit. "But if thine eye be evil [if the way you see things is good for nothing and spoils] thy whole body shall be full of darkness." I think this works on the level of a body politic as well as the individual. Eph. 5:11 says, "and have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." We only have fellowship with our own kind. Christ was a good tree that never produced bad fruit. We can be like Him, but we can never be Him.

Mark

[EnemyofEdom]

The good tree produces only good fruit quote I could never fully understand because Esau came from a good tree but he was bad fruit.

Is this not racial? Esau wasn't bad fruit, he was good fruit; however, his offspring is bad fruit because he married bad fruit and all he can produce is bad fruit.

[wmfinck]

Is this not racial? Esau wasn't bad fruit, he was good fruit; however, his offspring is bad fruit because he married bad fruit and all he can produce is bad fruit.

For which reason the axe was "already laid to the root of the trees", because a bad tree cannot produce good fruit.

All men have the capacity to fornicate, and produce bad trees. If the "churches" taught the truth, Esau would be the example.

[Joe]

Excerpt from Unforgivable Sin, Clifton Emahiser.

We should take into consideration Heb 12:16 where Paul says: “Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.” Any time a White-Caucasian commits fornication, that person is selling their birthright by flushing it down the toilet. And the product of such a union is a biblical-bastard (mamzer), a mutation of genetic confusion which can never be corrected in this age or the next! This is not a game of tinker-toys, for it is no small matter! What is it that Esau did? He married Hittite wives of the Cain-satanic-seedline. Now don’t go quoting Gen. 4:1 to me, for that is a corrupt passage as described by the 12-volume The Interpreter’s Bible and The Interpreter’s One-Volume Commentary on the Bible by Charles M. Laymon, commenting on Gen. 4:1. The Aramaic (not bad-fig-jewish) Targums spell Gen. 4:1 out quite clearly: that Eve committed fornication with Satan producing Cain! That is why Yahweh told Cain at Gen. 4:7: “If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door [of the birth canal] ...” Thus, Cain was a genetic misfit without the Holy Spirit breathed into Adam, of which Paul says our bodies are the temple. And being dead to the Spirit, he had no compunction about killing his halfbrother, Abel. That is also the reason Eve said at Gen 4:25: “... For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead [in place] of Abel, whom Cain slew.” Had Cain been Adam’s son, Eve would have said “For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead [in place] of Cain ...” But by stating “instead of Abel” at Gen. 4:25 – as Eve did – she included Abel in Adam’s genealogy while excluding Cain.

Perhaps the sin was with Eve and not with cain.

I think we know in our hearts that we should obey, but when we disobey we produce bad works, cause and effect, we suffer those bad works. Bastards are quite content to live in a lifeless waste amongst their evil-works, that is what they are. But for us to live with them is hellish, fatal.

Edit: Actually bastards are always trying to escape their bad-works by trying to enter our societies through violence.