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Are the original fallen angels dead?

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Are the original fallen angels dead?

Postby MikeTheAdamite » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:11 am

Can any body answer what might seem a simple question?
Are the original Satan and his fallen angels dead?
I know we have the offspring but did the original satans die of old age or are they still amongst us?
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Re: Are the original fallen angels dead?

Postby brucebohn » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:56 am

MikeTheAdamite wrote:Can any body answer what might seem a simple question?
Are the original Satan and his fallen angels dead?
I know we have the offspring but did the original satans die of old age or are they still amongst us?



Two seedline/ Pragmatic Genesis would be an appropriate place to begin.
There is no simple "answer" to this question... You will find in your quest
to become informed that you have certainly come to the right website and
forum, and the good folks here will help you in every way possible, however,
the best advice that can be given is for you to take the time to listen/study
to the information posted at Christogenea. Org. Info that has taken much
time and effort to produce. You might find the process a bit time consuming
but the effort will be rewarding.. Unfortunately, there are no shortcuts.
Good luck Mike & welcome to the forum... In Christ
"Do you not know that with those running in a race,while all run,
but one takes the prize? In that manner you run, in order that you shall obtain."
1Cor. 9:24
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Re: Are the original fallen angels dead?

Postby Kentucky » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:32 pm

A more succinct question posed is: do angels die?

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Re: Are the original fallen angels dead?

Postby SwordBrethren » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:50 pm

MikeTheAdamite wrote:Can any body answer what might seem a simple question?
Are the original Satan and his fallen angels dead?
I know we have the offspring but did the original satans die of old age or are they still amongst us?



Look no further than Jude for the answer-

And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Revelation 18:
Und ich hörte eine andere Stimme vom Himmel, die sprach: Gehet aus von ihr, mein Volk, daß ihr nicht teilhaftig werdet ihrer Sünden, auf daß ihr nicht empfanget etwas von ihren Plagen!

Denn ihre Sünden reichen bis in den Himmel, und Gott denkt an ihren Frevel.


Judentum ist Verbrechertum!

Heute ist Deutschland die größte Weltmacht! - Der Führer 30 Januar 1940
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Re: Are the original fallen angels dead?

Postby MikeTheAdamite » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:41 pm

I know this subject was recently discussed by yourself and Bill in your two seedline series,which is excellent.
But as Adam and Eve forsaketh everlasting life by sinning,it would make sense that these angels also forsaketh theirs by sinning?
Afterall,nobody seems to have much of an idea what chains of darkness are,even Bill!
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Re: Are the original fallen angels dead?

Postby MikeTheAdamite » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:45 pm

So in answer to Marks question:do angels die?It could well be YES!
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Re: Are the original fallen angels dead?

Postby brucebohn » Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:04 pm

MikeTheAdamite wrote:I know this subject was recently discussed by yourself and Bill in your two seedline series,which is excellent.
But as Adam and Eve forsaketh everlasting life by sinning,it would make sense that these angels also forsaketh theirs by sinning?
Afterall,nobody seems to have much of an idea what chains of darkness are,even Bill!



Actually, Bill and Clifton Emahiser have, at least thru conjecture [ and study]
put forth the idea that the non-white, dark race's, are, the "fallen Angel's",
embodied, and held in Chains "OF" Darkness. I, for one, am inclined to agree...
"Do you not know that with those running in a race,while all run,
but one takes the prize? In that manner you run, in order that you shall obtain."
1Cor. 9:24
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Re: Are the original fallen angels dead?

Postby MikeTheAdamite » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:59 pm

Thanks Bruce for your earlier words of encouragement.

I would have expected these other races to be wiser if they had fallen angel spirits.Having said that,the Ashkenazi Jew is said to have an IQ of around 140 if you believe their Bias statistics!(I don't).
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Re: Are the original fallen angels dead?

Postby Kentucky » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:29 pm

Pastor Ken Lent has looked into Jude further. Ken, as you may know, attended William Potter Gale's church in Mariposa, CA. Gale coined the term 'Christian Identity' and launched Wesley Swift's career. Here's a PDF link to Ken's study: http://ezra98.yolasite.com/resources/EstateAngels.pdf

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Re: Are the original fallen angels dead?

Postby brucebohn » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:02 pm

MikeTheAdamite wrote:Thanks Bruce for your earlier words of encouragement.

I would have expected these other races to be wiser if they had fallen angel spirits.Having said that,the Ashkenazi Jew is said to have an IQ of around 140 if you believe their Bias statistics!(I don't).




Wisdom? Maybe we give them more credit than is due. They did fall from grace
afterall. Certainly they are cunning. Our Adamic/ Israelite people are
"Children of Yahweh God" , which would suggest great wisdom, and that
certainly has not been displayed throughout our time. But then, we all
have a role to play and our Father is the orchestrator. I do understand
your point however......... Jews do not work, they spend thier
time in study, learning the fine art of destroying Adamic man, lol......
"Do you not know that with those running in a race,while all run,
but one takes the prize? In that manner you run, in order that you shall obtain."
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