An Open Letter to Bill Finck

[SaxonJackson]

Please pardon my ignorance but what is "the show?" I wished I would have heard or seen it for myself. I'm passionate about my personal, doctrinal beliefs and appreciate others who share that passion (even if they don't always agree with me). The Bible says that iron sharpens iron and I like my knives sharp. Anyway ... I'm sorry I missed it.

[PILGRIM]

Please pardon my ignorance but what is "the show?" I wished I would have heard or seen it for myself. I'm passionate about my personal, doctrinal beliefs and appreciate others who share that passion (even if they don't always agree with me). The Bible says that iron sharpens iron and I like my knives sharp. Anyway ... I'm sorry I missed it.

Talkshoe - Christolaos 2/2 Episode 14 with RPWake
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=67473&cmd=tc

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[SaxonJackson]

Please pardon my ignorance but what is "the show?" I wished I would have heard or seen it for myself. I'm passionate about my personal, doctrinal beliefs and appreciate others who share that passion (even if they don't always agree with me). The Bible says that iron sharpens iron and I like my knives sharp. Anyway ... I'm sorry I missed it.

Talkshoe - Christolaos 2/2 Episode 14 with RPWake
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=67473&cmd=tc

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Thanks. I'll try to "be there" next time around.

[wmfinck]

SaxonJackson:

Pilgrim pointed you to the right place, but you are probably not privy to the recording archive. The recording for the entire program (show and after-show) discussed above is here:

Download the entire program here, post-show and all! Thank you, Mark III, for capturing this.

While I only put Talkshoe programs that I am involved in on the front page of Christogenea, that is usually five programs a week. The link to each of the programs I am involved with is usually posted on the front page of my site by midnight the night before. There is also an event calendar at http://christogenea.org/site/event which I keep up-to-date.

[BrettDeason]

Bill Finck has done what we all in Christian Identity have all been waiting for someone to do. Bill Finck translated the New Testament, which is written in Greek. This was not easy to do. This took Bill from 1996 to 2008 to do. This is not the Bill Finck translation, this is the Christian Identity translation. We recognize Bill as a scholar of the Greek language because of this tremendous feat.

One thing in Identity that we can all do to help each other out is to make an attempt to translate the original Hebrew-written Old Testament. It will take a long time to do. Labouring for Yahweh takes a long time.

This is just one suggestion. This is just one idea. There are plenty of things that we can do to help each other out.

1 Thes. 3:5 and 1 Thes. 5:12 both tell us to do what Bill did in questioning the guest - making sure that his doctrine is the doctrine that it needs to be - making sure that his labour for Yahweh is not be messed up because he went away from the Christian Identity doctrine, possibly due to temptation. We are to warn each other of doctrine that is not safe.

1 Thes. 5:12 And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you;

1Thes. 3:5 For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.

John 4:38 and 1 Cor. 3:8 tells us that we improve each other's work that each of us does for Yahweh.

John 4:38 I sent you to reap that whereon ye bestowed no labour: other men laboured, and ye are entered into their labours.

1 Cor. 3:8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

2 Cor. 10:15 Not boasting of things without [our] measure, [that is], of other men's labours; but having hope, when your faith is increased, that we shall be enlarged by you according to our rule abundantly,

We grow in scripture knowledge from other people's knowledge of scripture. (2 Cor. 10:15)

1 Tim. 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Labour in the Word and Doctrine. (1 Tim. 5:17)

2 Thes. 3:8 , 1 Thes. 2:9 , 2 Cor. 6:5 , 2 Cor. 11:23 , 2 Cor. 11:27

All of these scripture verses lists all the many things that happen to all of us who labour for Yahweh, working in Yahweh's labour.

1 Thes. 2:9 For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God.

2 Thes. 3:8 Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:

2 Cor. 6:5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;

2 Cor. 11:23 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I [am] more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.

2 Cor. 11:27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.

1 Thes. 1:3 even calls the labour for Yahweh, labour of love

1 Thes. 1:3 Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1 Cor. 15:58 , Heb. 6:10 , Rev. 14:13, Rev. 2:2 , John 6:27 all sum it up.

1 Cor. 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

Heb. 6:10 For God [is] not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

Rev. 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed [are] the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Rev. 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

Tuesday night's guest was just presenting an idea of what could happen if the time line of the end days started on the specific date that he mentioned. A "what if" scenario, if you will.

The ultimate unknown in all of scripture is the beginning of the end of days time line.

The best thing for all of us in Christian Identity to do is to study, study, study the scripture until Yahweh ends the end of days time line Himself.

Or, I'm an idiot. That is always a possibility.

- Brett Deason
Stay focused on Yahweh's Will and not anyone's individual will
Praise and Thank Yahweh The Most High! May Yahweh Bless You

[JamesTheJust]

Dear YHWH I love my family. To read such insightful comments and know that I have kinsmen who are so wide awake, fills me with unspeakable joy. I wish that all our people had such eyes to see and ears to hear.

Praise YHWH!

[matthewott]

Brett,

I must say, you are no idiot...a little eccentric maybe (which is not a bad thing, many may consider me the same), but you're no idiot. Your preface of scripture is spot on and I pray one day I might have that intimate a knowledge of the Word. It is an absolute joy to be able to carry on such detailed, intelligent discussions on a daily basis with my brethren. I swear that before CI, I was fighting an environment in which I could feel my IQ dropping by the minute!

[BrettDeason]

Let us keep in mind, that we also need to defend our Adamic brothers and sisters and the special guest on Tues. night's show is one of our Adamic brothers.

It is a possibility that our special guest on Tues. night's show could have been tempted by the father of all Jews. Our special guest on Tues. night's show is an Adamic brother. An Adamic brother who could have found something that a lot of us, or possibly even all of us, have not discovered yet.

The father of all Jews will use anything and everything to disrupt the studying of the scripture that we all need to keep continuing doing. Let's keep on keeping on.

Let us keep in mind that Yahweh knows what He is doing. We are always saying that the Jews know what they are doing. Let us also remember that Yahweh knows what he is doing too.

Let us keep in mind that the special guest on Tues. night's show does not know our TalkShoe audience at all. He does not know if there are people who have been studying the scripture for a long time who were listening to the show, or if there are people who are new to the scripture as part of the TalkShoe audience. None of us really know that much about any of our TalkShoe audience members. He did say that he had taught the Identity message for a long time and over those years he had been asked many questions from many people. He had been asked, no telling who knows, a number of questions from a number of people all coming from a number of different possible angles, or viewpoints. He did not know exactly how long he had on the program to explain this new-found doctrine. He did not know how much of this new-found doctrine he had to explain in full detail, or explain very easily. I'm sure Bill Finck is not the first person to ask him question after question about the scriptures. Our special guest on Tues. night's show was very polite. He did not know how to word or phrase this new-found doctrine in a summarized way. He did not know what words or phrases of words would set somebody off. I'm sure he had no idea.

His cell phone's battery ended up dying, which is always a variable which is at all times unknown. You never know when your cell phone's battery is going to die. It happens due to too many factors that are involved.

Bill Finck was not out of line. Neither was our special guest on Tues. night's show.

I was following along with our special guest of our show Tues. night. I could see where he was coming from. I could understand where and how he was putting this new-found doctrine together. I am an Adamic brother also.

- Brett Deason
Praise and Thank Yahweh The Most High!
May Yahweh Bless You
Focus on Yahweh's Will, not anyone's individual will

[Les]

I am listening to the 02-02-2010 show entire version (thank you MarkIII) and just heard a part where some "argument " happened in the first hour.

I have never heard of Portugal or Spain ever before referred to as Judah before, and know that everybody LOVES those countries, (except the Newfoundland fisherman who are pissed off they keep coming over into Canadian waters and stealing all the fish).

Even though I am not German or an Anglo , I know that the Brits, and the especially the Germans have been mocked, ridiculed, and downright hated in the media/history books.

IF Satan would not have a hate-on for the very people who promoted the Word of "God" (Yahweh) to every country/nation in the world, because they invented and used the printing press just for that very purpose, (that was the original purpose I read why the Germans invented the press), then I guess I am confused.

(By the way, the Protocols were printed by he BRITON PUBLISHING SOCIETY,London,England, which I am fairly sure was the King's/Queen's own printing house, wasn't it?)

[davethenobody]

I rather got the impression that this discussion and concomitant issues pertaining thereto would never have arisen in the first place had the program been allowed to continue along the course upon which it so obviously set out.

That is to say if both inquiry and ego had been sufficiently restrained with participation from the outside kept to the absolute minimum enabling Jesse to continue his insightful talk uninterupted with the Q$A at the end as is customary.

The first 15 to 20 minutes were fascinating but I remain none the wiser due to the subject matter being forcibly redirected upon an utterly irrelevent path. A path it was quite clear not only from the outset, but from his own assertion, the speaker did not intent to persue.

I am not having a go at anyone in particular, I do feel however feel that the burden of responsibillity for the shambles that subsequently ensued rests upon all those who participated. The etiquette of such occasions dictates that you do not interrupt a speaker until he has finished his lecture in order to facilitate informed and reasoned inquiry. It is also basic common decency and good manners.

You all have ample opportunity several times a week to make your points and beliefs known and do so eloquently and for the most part without let or interdict. This gentleman was effectively deprived of the one opportunity to do likewise.

In future I would suggest that everyone, however strong the urge, overcomes such and shuts up until the bloke has finished talking...........

We Limey's call it 'playing the white man'..