Nayto wrote:
Paul said that in order to lead, you need to be able to lead your own household. If it gets to divorce then you have failed to lead. It's just not an excuse to blame your failure on the system. Let's stop making excuses and take some territory.
I could accept this 2000 years ago, but today it is empty moralizing.
A Roman father had the LEGAL authority to have his wife or daughter put to DEATH if they shamed him. If his wife cheated on him he could have her executed. If his daughter ran off and had relations with some man he did not approve of, he could have his daughter put to death.
Obviously it was incredibly rare since we seldom read about it happening. Imagine if women had the power to have men put to death, there'd be none of us left today. In just 40 years in the USA there have been about 40 million abortions and at least as many in Western Europe along with about 50-100 million abortions in the Soviet Union from 1950 to 1991.
A man today has no legal power to do anything to his wife or daughters. If his daughter beds a kaffir and has a mongrel child he is free to accept it or keep quiet. If he condemns her for it than more often than not his wife will turn on him.
Solomon said that out of all of his searches he only found one man in one thousand to be upright but he was unable to find any women, and you're telling me to "keep looking, it will work" do you think I'm going to have better results than Solomon?
I know dozens of men who were doing everything right, they worked hard, they didn't hurt their wives, they didn't cheat, and then one day they woke up being served with divorce papers that they never saw coming because their wife was having an affair and wanted to move off with the new guy.
There is no rational basis to blame a man for the failure of a marriage because a man is essentially powerless in the marriage in the modern west.
If I wanted to hear "it is always the man's fault when a marriage goes to divorce, he failed to be a leader!" I would go to an evangelical baptist or pentecostal church where all manner of slut behavior on the part of the woman is glossed over, blamed on the man, or outright ignored, and everything is the fault of the man.
If the woman insists on living a high on the hog lifestyle and the man has to work 60 hours per week to pay the enormous bills she racks up, it is his fault for never being around and leaving her to become lonely and have an affair...
If the man wants to spend more time with his family and only works 30-32 hours per week or takes a job that allows a more flexible schedule, and the woman wants more, it is his fault when she starts having an affair with some rich guy who buys her jewelry.
That's the sort of crap I could hear if I went to a baptist/pentecostal church.
This is 2013, 80% of divorces are filed by women, less than 5% cite cruelty/abuse, about 20% cite infidelity, the overwhelming majority simply state "irreconcilable differences" or some such nonsense. It is never the man's fault if his wife decides to go off and be a whore.