Putting the Identity to Christian Identity

[SwordBrethren]

There's something to be said for not kicking a bear in the face, for not poking the lion with a stick.

Initially, Yahshua taught in Galilee rather than Judea, "FOR FEAR OF THE JEWS!" If He had been immediately killed by the Jews or their pawns, He wouldn't have been able to accomplish His mission.

I have no intention of tempting fate and bringing unnecessary heat down upon myself. We Identists already subscribe to a set of theological/scriptural views that could easily get us tortured to death in certain areas if our views were known. At the very least we would be subject to severe economic and political discrimination.

[matthewott]

I do not refute or condemn these replies from my brethren, and yes SB, your wisdom is well founded. My days of "kicking the bear in the face" ended shortly after the helicopter incident and I learned that valuable lesson. However, I don't see simply being open about your identity on the net can be equated as such. Sure, Yahshua preached outside Judea for fear of the jews, but did he disguise himself to do it? His preaching in Galilee instead of Judea I would equate to Him setting up His own talkshoe (hehe) to preach instead of jumping in a jewish talkshow to disrupt and anger.

I am not asking my brethren to openly vandalize synogogues, beat the crap out of a jew on the street, or mug a politician to get our money back, and then leave a calling card. I am simply questioning the prudence of anonymity in this day and age when we brethren need each other more than ever.

I have faith in Yahweh, not in man. I want that to be obvious to EVERYONE. It should be as a beacon to all Israelites as I care more about my brethren knowing who I am rather than my enemies. Aren't we to be recognized by our fruits? As it is so, our enemies would recognize us quicker than our own brethren in this day and age. But where do you "draw the line"? Is there a line to be drawn (if so then is there a limit to faith)? Where in scriture does it say to tiptoe around the enemy? How many different places and in different ways in scripture does it say not to fear them that can only kill the body? I simply do not understand what we are trying to save in this life by putting a limit on our faith, which I personally feel is a condition of anonymity.

Please don't take this as a specific "attack" on any of my brothers and sisters. I am simply trying to understand scriptural application to our current predicament.

Like the flagbearer on the battlefield, we carry the standard of our faith, more readily targeted by our enemies. We have the duty to never let that standard hit the ground, even if we are shot and killed, and that one of us will be right there to ensure that that banner still waves proudly. That is our faith and confidence in knowing WE REPRESENT THE TRUTH.

[matthewott]

This is the kind of propaganda that anonymity helps spawn

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[SwordBrethren]

In the 1950s in Poland there was a large patriot movement consisting of tens of thousands of armed paramilitaries who had resisted the Germans and then began to resist the Soviets as they moved into Poland in 1944-1945. They lived in the wilderness and in underground bunkers like fugitives... Stalin put out an offer that if they would come out of hiding and surrender their weapons, they would receive amnesty. About fifty percent of them took Stalin up on the offer and they were promptly arrested and then summarily executed by the NKVD.

The bulk of the rest remained underground and continued resisting into the 1960s.

In the Baltic States, especially Estonia, organizations known as Forest Brethren, continued to resist the Soviets well into the 1960s and early 1970s.

Jesus frequently hid Himself from the mobs that sought to destroy Him, even while in the midst of such mobs.


Only a fool paints a target on himself when it serves no purpose.

[Unnamed]

I am not asking my brethren to openly vandalize synogogues, beat the crap out of a jew on the street, or mug a politician to get our money back, and then leave a calling card.

No, you're not. No one said you were. Rather, you've asked people to flag their real names in public on a forum most likely watched by the Beast, the SPLC, and a host of alphabet soup organizations.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not a Fed. I'm guessing you haven't thought this through: hate laws aside, federal agents aside... a person flags his real name and address out in front of the SPLC, and those people are likely to check up on you, call your place of employment and badger your boss into firing you. Don't say it won't happen. It does.

I don't know you. I don't owe you. You've done nothing to earn my trust. Coming in and throwing Yahweh's name around means nothing. If you love us as brothers and sisters, then quit trying to endanger us. Period.

[matthewott]

Victor, you obviously have not read this entire thread, and I don't give a shit to get the benefit of ANYONE'S doubt. All will know me by my fruits! I'm not here to "throw around the Name of Yahweh"; I am no blasphemous idiot and I'm sorry you get that impression. I am here to find the Israelites of the Bible, the COURAGEOUS people who actually believe that Yahweh is telling the truth when he says DO NOT BE AFRAID. HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF PUTTING EVERYONE HERE IN DANGER! If you are so worried about little ol' me putting our fellow Israelites in danger here, then we ALL better just "vent in private" (into your pillow, no less, so NO ONE can hear you!) Are you that daft that you don't think they already know who you are by your IP address?? If you have a foolproof way of BLOCKING your personal info from being extracted off the net, THEN YOU BETTER SPILL THE BEANS AND OFFER THAT PROTECTION TO YOUR FELLOW ISRAELITES! The crux of this thread is to determine the legitimacy of HIDING. I'll be damned if I can accept that the remnant I seek, my kindred as written in scriptures, are a bunch of sniveling cowards. I have been trying to fight for what is right for a long time, which is what brought me to DSL CI. So what has doing the right thing gotten me? Few friends, a denial of my right to purchase a sidearm (with no felonies and no written explanation), alienation from my family, loss of property, home invasion, and the list goes on. I'm no glutton for punishment; constantly getting the short end of the stick is getting quite old. Your average Joe Coward would have gone with the "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" mantra a long time ago, but not THIS ISRAELITE! Victor, I started this thread not as an argument or as an effort to get my kinsmen "busted", but you have turned it into an insult and you have definitely struck a nerve. I am not here to cause grief, but stimulate intelligent, mature discussions with a people I finally fit in with...."PERIOD". Are you???

[Unnamed]

Actually, in your OP, you stated that you wanted all the CI brethren here to publish their names and addresses here so you could know who they are.

Divorce yourself from your motivation for making that post... whatever it may truly be; what would be your initial reaction to that?

[SwordBrethren]

Actually, in your OP, you stated that you wanted all the CI brethren here to publish their names and addresses here so you could know who they are.

Divorce yourself from your motivation for making that post... whatever it may truly be; what would be your initial reaction to that?

I will say this... I have been doing broadcasts since January of 2007 and the only times I wind up requesting somebody's address is when I am mailing them a package of stuff related to the cause/movement or when I am about to drive to their place to visit with them.

If I were to suddenly begin encouraging people to post their personal information online, let alone explicitly stating they should do so or else they will be seen as cowards with much to hide, I would expect everybody to scrutinize me and call my judgement into serious question.

There's no reason for anybody to seek to play "information database keeper" by trying to gather personal information on everybody. At least there's no legitimate/valid reason.

If somebody wants my personal information, they're going to have to do a whole lot more to earn my trust than just making a simple post on a forum telling me to give up my information.

I may one day be a patriotic rebel fighter (only Yahweh knows what the future has in store me) and in the meanwhile I hope to be able to have a career as a professional. Publishing all of my information would make either possibility all the more difficult and impractical.

Don't wave a red flag in front of the bull while taunting, "Here I am! I don't like you! Here I am, I don't like you!" if you're not able and willing to fight to the death. It is hardly unrealistic to expect and anticipate that the ZOG regime may soon begin a campaign of openly murdering patriots as they did in Russia during the jew-communist revolution. Why pin a target on yourself? Why encourage others to pin targets on themselves?

[Les]

I just remembered "Arlene" demanding to know my name to send me an email, my email address alone, simply was not good enough, and it alarmed me.
Later I learned she was nigger lover, and who knows what else.
When I blocked her emails, she would change addresses a few times.

[why]

why do so many of my brethren NOT post their names and where you actually live?

I think I finally understand why I think you guys don't understand me. I believe I used the word "post" in the wrong context (damn technology jargon). I didn't mean post it like in the forums, I meant "post" it in your profile somewhere so your kinsmen can access it or at least go by your real name. While I believe that most of you may object to that yet, I certainly did not mean to infer to just throw that information around. I did post my info in the thread I started to simply show everyone that I have nothing to hide. It just surprises me at how many people use aliases. I never caught on to the false image projection that is so popular on the net. I'm not here to start any databases or "demand" that info from anyone...I'm looking for the BRAVE VOLUNTEERS I guess. I apologize if I mislead anyone. I'm just as eager to "separate the wheat from the tares".