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Romans, Chapter 1

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Re: Romans, Chapter 1

Postby Staropramen » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:54 pm

Bill,
The OP in the thread below originally contained the "jooman" word that I questioned him about. It has been edited but with no evidence of such;

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4912&p=11063#p11063

It originally said "working for the jooman" not "working for Satan and his children". In fact jooman was used a couple of times originally.
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Re: Romans, Chapter 1

Postby NicoChristian » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:39 pm

You can tell a lot by the way a person posts or writes. Even if a fool tries to he cannot make himself appear better on a forum. It's funny seeing some people trying to appear prefessional and polite, but failing miserably.
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Re: Romans, Chapter 1

Postby wmfinck » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:35 pm

Ohhh, I am sorry, I do remember that now. I do not know why or how the post was edited, but you are right, it was. I was thinking only of the changes to that first post Brett put in the welcome pages. It is definitely an anomaly that the post you point out does not show as having been edited. Don't know if it is important enough to spend hours looking into, unless the problem persists.

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Re: Romans, Chapter 1

Postby wmfinck » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:39 pm

I just edited that post, simply to indicate it had been edited. HOWEVER: are you certain that is the original? Or did Brett delete the first post and create another? That makes more sense to me, in afterthought.
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Re: Romans, Chapter 1

Postby PastorVisser » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:05 pm

wmfinck wrote:I locked a topic here two months ago, because someone attempted to edit a post that I had replied to and quoted in my answer. I reverted it, and locked the topic, because I felt that when the original post was edited it made me look like a liar. Therefore editing the post after my criticism was, in my estimation, totally dishonest on the part of the original poster who edited his post after receiving criticism.


Bill,

That would've been ME on the acrostics thread that I hadn't completed editing yet. No conspiracy there.

I'd still like to discuss their importance in transliteration sometime @

http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/23727

Again - let me know,
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Re: Romans, Chapter 1

Postby Kentucky » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:49 pm

wmfinck wrote:I locked a topic here two months ago, because someone attempted to edit a post that I had replied to and quoted in my answer. I reverted it, and locked the topic, because I felt that when the original post was edited it made me look like a liar. Therefore editing the post after my criticism was, in my estimation, totally dishonest on the part of the original poster who edited his post after receiving criticism.


I remember I was on the phone with you that morning when the creative editing disappeared a remark that would've made you look bad. I know you don't respond to off topic things out of the blue, but examine things in a scholarly manner that will shed light on something germain to the topic. You locked the thread Nov. 13, '12, but four days later on Nov. 17 another thread popped up as a continuation of the 'acrostics' thread called "(Gemetria etc) I'll try to explain myself better this time" in which the creative editor had failed to complete any further editing from the former thread, but reasserted a statement of the OP who said, "Another language in Scripture would be the numerical formulas that are tied to the Hebrew alphabet, a life long study all by itself" as "Indeed - acrostics. :D".

Bill then gave a clear and succinct analysis of the gemetria-acrostic obsession as follows:

"There seems to be something to gematria, the meainings of the numerical sum of letter values in Scripture. However that too opens the door to a world of Kabbalah-type interpretations of the plain Word of Yahweh our God.

"In my observation, most people who enter into these worlds of code and hidden messages in Scripture often use them to pervert the plain Word of Scripture. They find meanings which defy plain statements in the Word. They refuse to understand the plain meaning of the Word and opt for edification from whatever esoteric things they can devise for themselves. Thus the codes become idols, and they make themselves reprobates.

"That is why, in my own pragmatic view of the Word and the world, I generally ignore all of those things."

What the alleged importance of gemetria-acrostics has to do with transliteration would appear to dismiss Bill's statement above and resonate with the problematic rhetoric of people saying things (as discussed in this thread) as a means of saving face. "If My people shall humble themselves..." is not taken seriously, by admitting that the words of their mouths are not only incomplete, but in error without any further elaboration in which they could either make corrections or apologize, then II Chron 7:14 cannot manifest itself any in meaningful way. The smilies, the lol's and the one liners might suffice an audience easily digesting fluff, but I like to think the Christogenea forum is of a higher caliber that demands an intellectual discourse.

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Re: Romans, Chapter 1

Postby Staropramen » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:21 am

wmfinck wrote:I just edited that post, simply to indicate it had been edited. HOWEVER: are you certain that is the original? Or did Brett delete the first post and create another? That makes more sense to me, in afterthought.


If you go to page 2 of this thread and see my post that starts with "Btw" you will see that I provided a link to that thread when it still said "jooman" hence the point of my post. I suppose it is possible that the whole thread was deleted and a new thread was posted with the corrections and I didn't catch it at the time. I'm 99% certain that isn't the case but I suppose it's possible.
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Re: Romans, Chapter 1

Postby wmfinck » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:16 am

Wow, you are right, the link is the same. That is highly unlikely if the original post was replaced, especially since it was at least a few days old.

Therefore the post must have been edited, and without indication. Strange, LOL
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Re: Romans, Chapter 1

Postby BrettDeason » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:00 am

I apologize for way that I seemed to come off to people who do not know me. Bill Finck and Melissa are the only Israelite Brethren who I know from this forum. I should have taken into consideration, that people who do not know me, would also be reading what I posted on this forum. Did anyone, and I am mean ANYONE even take any time at all to do any research what so ever at all, even in the least bit, on me? The grand total of research that I did on that Brethren who questioned my writings, was to ask Bill if he knew him and if he was one of our Brethren? Bill's answer gave me all the information that I needed. He seems to be one of our Brethren. How are we suppose to know one another? By our fruits. No other way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does Bill know for sure, that he is a Brethren or not, does anyone know for sure, whether any of us are Brethren or not? Only by our fruits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All you Brethren had to do was to search my posts. Are my posts about bullshit, or Yahweh's Truth? They are about Yahweh's Truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, one of my fellow Brethren posted a nice little comment, that did nothing but add to the fire of me being pissed off about this. That particular fellow Brethren posted that, now, because of my mistake in me writing what I wrote using the words I used, seemed to color his perception of my writings. If I'm not perfectly posting every single post that I post, and that colors your perception of me, or of anything of my other writings, then, once again, I have to just shake my head, in disappointment to that from a fellow Brethren.

The words that I choose to use when I wrote what I wrote, DO NOT MATTER. Why argue over such a small minute thing? We are all falling prey to Satan and his family, if we argue and fight over little tiny things like that. How useful are we for our Heavenly Father if we are going to argue over little tiny things like that? How well are we representing Yahweh's Family if we do that? We are not representing Yahweh's Family well at all by doing that!

Why did I get so pissed off? Because I was insulted, that is why. By a fellow Brethren, at that. How messed up is that? All that you Brethren have done, in squabbling over my posts, in how I wrote this and how I wrote that, and what word I choose to use here and what word I choose to use there, is attract the enemy. And, what is Satan and his family going to do now? They can so very easily point to CI (Christian Identity) , or II (Israelite Identity), or whatever you want to call it, and they can say things like, 'look, CI, is no good', 'look at them fighting each other in CI', 'do you really want to be a part of that, if they call that the truth?' 'do you really want to be part of that, if they aren't nice people?' The examples could go on and on as to how Satan and his family could very easily use this against us. I got insulted by being compared to jews and niggers. I am of Yahweh's Heavenly Family! Does that not piss you Brethren off, when you get called a jew or a nigger, or when you get compared to jews or niggers? Because if it doesn't, I don't know what to say about that.

And, now, I have to take the time out of my busy day, to write this up, so that y'all can all feel happy and feel great. But, I'm sure, that I've messed up in writing this, and that, you Brethren, will just pick it apart and dissect it, and analyze it, and discuss all that you Brethren find wrong with it. Oh, I'm sorry, my Brethren who are reading this, don't know me well enough to know how busy my days are. Do I need to go into explanation about that too????????????????????

Why should I, or anyone, ever have to do deal with this???????????????????????????? Are we perfect? NO!!!!! NOT ANY OF US BRETHREN ARE PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, stop being nit picky about how we share our Heavenly Father's Gospel, and get out there and do your work for His Kingdom, instead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is not a cult! We are not in a cult! We are not in a denomination! We are of Yahweh's Family!!!!!!

We don't have any secret hand shakes or words or anything like that. We don't lure people in and brain wash them. We don't do any of those things. Yet, people tell us that we are in a cult.

We do not accuse one another of not being a member of Yahweh's Heavenly Family. That just ends up being a recipe for disaster.

This brethren asked me for credentials, as he called them. We don't have anything like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He then proceeded to post his picture and a video and tell about his dealings with the jews. I don't have any videos as evidence of who I am. I don't even have any pictures to show you guys who I am (and I'm not referring to photographs). I am a child of Yahweh's Family! I am a worker for HIs Gospel! Have I dealt with the jews? Yes! We all have, haven't we? Do they not run and control everything from money to media and everything else? I work in Marketing. I have to deal with jews and niggers and fags all the time. Niggers look down on me because I'm White, while fags look down on me because I'm not gay, while jews don't have an understanding of what is right and what is wrong. I hate working in Marketing! I get phone calls on my cell from jew retards who are in Management, and I have to deal with that. But, I've got to feed myself don't I?

Would a member of Satan's family get so pissed off, when they are accused of being from their own family?

And, this fellow Brethren of ours, posted that it seemed odd, or, a coincidence of some sort, that I typed some words in some way or another, like a jew would type them. WE ARE TO BE KNOWN BY THE FRUITS OF OUR WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, what now? We all have to go and edit every single thing that we have ever written????????????????????????

We are all busy! We all live busy lives! None of us - NONE OF US BRETHREN - have time to go through all that we write, and correct this mistake, and that mistake, and all of our mistakes that we have made in our writings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We need to stop creating divisions amongst our Brethren!!!!!!!! We need to stop looking at every little single mistake that we all make, and we all need to focus on our Heavenly Father's Will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thank Yahweh and I praise Yahweh for everything that I have and that even includes all of my faults. I thank and I praise our Heavenly Father for everything. Yahweh blesses His Children and He punishes His Children. I thank and I praise Yahweh for all of that.

I thank Yahweh and I praise Yahweh for everything! I ask Yahweh to guide me in my studies of His Word. I ask Yahweh to guide me in my every day life, whether it is while I am on the job in Marketing, or, whether I am not on the job in Marketing. I hope that all of us brethren do!!!!

And, one brethren posted that he doesn't get this angry, when he get's called a jew or a nigger or a wigger, or, when he gets accused of being from a family, other than, our Heavenly Father's Family. I certainly hope that we all get this pissed off when that happens to all of us Israelites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brethren, and I am including EVERY BRETHREN, when I type this out, fight the fight that we are in with Satan and his family. We each share Yahweh's Gospel in all the ways that we can. The harder that we brethren fight, the harder that Satan and his offspring fight back. And, that is a good sign, not a bad sign. That is a good sign, showing that we brethren are fighting hard.

And, for the sake of Yahweh's Gospel, don't think that every single time when you share our Heavenly Father's Gospel, that it does not count. That does not help you, in your fight. If our lost brethren, reject our Heavenly Father's Gospel, then Yahweh will deal with them.

I apologize about the way that I came off, to my brethren, who do not know me.

Bill and Melissa, I'll talk to you guys later.
I'll do my best to get to know my fellow Brethren. And, my fellow Brethren, try to get to know me, in return.

Yahweh's Will Be Done.
May Yahweh Bless all of our Brethren and keep all of us Brethren safe and secure.
Yahweh is happy and pleased with the work that our Brethren are all doing for His Gospel.
Keep fighting hard!
Praise our Heavenly Father and thank Him for EVERYTHING!
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Re: Romans, Chapter 1

Postby BrettDeason » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:10 am

My apology was for the sake of our Heavenly Father and His Kingdom, not, for anyone else. So, don't boast about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yahweh's Will Be Done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Praise and Thank Yahweh The Most High!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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