Apostle Paul lusting?

[barryw]

Hello C.I.'ers....I am lookin for feedback to my questions again. As I read through Paul's various writings it seems to me that Paul is more affected by his desire for women than he would like to be( Im thinkin thats true of most men, me included). It seems to me that Leviticus 18 pretty much lays down the law of Yahweh concerning who you can't touch sexually, leaving you with the option of who you can touch sexually. Of course as it would pertain to a single person. Im not thinking or saying that it is ok to go romping around very frequently but from Lev. 18 Im getting that it is lawful for two unrelated single people to have sex. Im wondering if that is true why does Paul have so much guilt/repentance? Maybe Paul was a serious hound dog,hahaha
Anybody have any thoughts on this subject?
Thanks
Barry

[Lilkanga]

Barry,

I will go ahead and give my thoughts on your post.

Despite what most women would day, multiple wives are scriptural, but I would add to that thought that multiple wives are very unwise. Take a look at all the trouble in Jacob's home and it was even worse in the cases of David and Solomon.

Also, one must consider that a marriage is made in bed, not on paper or in a courtroom or a church alter. One a man makes love to a woman, that woman is his wife in the eyes of YHWH and that man is responsible for that woman, for life or until he or she breaks the covenant of marriage, via adultery.

So, in the case of a so called single man, if he lays with a woman, that's his wife. If he then two weeks later, lays with another woman, he has two wives and if that first woman finds another man and she lies with that man, then both men and the woman have their part in the adultery matter.

Paul speaks to the single man in 1Cor. 7, by saying that if a man can not abstain from the burning of being without a woman, let him find a woman and take her as wife, but it would be best if he could abstain and not be burdened with the responsibilities of being a husband, so that he would then have time and energy to give to the work of the ministry.

I know this burden full well and know exactly what Paul speaks of. I have way too many responsibilities, ages 5, 7, 12, 14, 19, 21, 23, and 29 and that's just the kids. The grandkids are 1.5 and 3 and all have their hand out. LOL.

Blessings to you, Barry.

Joey

[barryw]

Thank you Joey

[matthewott]

My hat's off to you Joey! To have that many beautiful white children in this day and age is unheard of. Your contribution to your kinfolk and your race is just as dutiful as a ministry without them. I myself have 2 blond haired, blue-eyed boys ages 18 and 5 (and a stepdaughter, 14) and would like to think that their existence is what helped me find the Truth, which I am able to minister to my kinsmen. There is a reason Yahweh included 'lust' in this fleshly bodies!

Yah bless,
Matt

[AlexelA]

I just listened to Pastor Eli and Bill's talk on I Corinthians, and they discussed the verse in which Paul warns the Corinthians about the responsibilities of getting married. The important thing to remember is that this was a time of persecution for Christians, and this is why Paul said it might be better not to get married at that time. He was not telling all Christians that you should only get married if you cannot control your urges. I'm sure Paul would encourage fruitful Christian families like Joey's under normal circumstances!

[wmfinck]

Thank you, AlexelA, you have very well comprehended one of the more important points of 1 Corinthians 7.

While Lilkanga's post replying to Barry was good, I would not consider multiple wives to be "scriptural". Rather, while polygamy is not condemned by Scripture, instead it is merely permitted, while the pious model is that of our father Isaac (whom we would be named after): to have but one wife.

If one studies the polygamy of Abraham and Jacob, one may find that it was circumstantial, and not actually planned or sought after by either man. Perhaps I will do a segment on that one day soon.

Having been separated from my last wife in 1996, and more or less forced into chastity, now that I am back out in society I find myself in Paul's very shoes. It is easy to lapse into lustful thoughts when an attractive woman is spotted - that is part of being a man. Paul shared that travail with us (thereby demonstrating his theological sincerity and honesty) and provides for us a model, that we would be beckoned not to succumb to our worldly desires.

We today have been conditioned by the jewish media to accept sexual thoughts and innuendos that would have quickly been scorned in times not so far past. Remember that conceptions of lust are subjective, and can vary greatly from culture to culture. What we may see as a harmless glance, Paul very likely may have seen as an impermissible leer. So Yahshua warned us that one who lusts after a woman has already committed adultery in his heart! Without the favor of Yahweh, the law condemns us all. These things Paul emphasized, and was humble enough to use his own experiences as an example.

The Paul-bashers, with their totally judaized minds, overlook all of these things, and many more. They are the modern-day pharisees of Christian Israel Identity.