wmfinck wrote:The fags may find Thor hammers are much more appropriate symbols than crosses.
I found an Odinist website that appears somewhat "academic", and it addresses the issue of sodomy in Viking lore. It admits that there was no prohibition against sodomy, and that as long as a man superficially conformed to having a family, he could engage in sodomy if he wished--which is what many homosexuals do to this very day.
This essay also admits that the prohibition against sodomy did not become institutional among these people until the Christian churches imposed their anti-homosexual agenda. In fact, it makes the point that while Christians condemned all unnatural acts of homosexuality and bestiality, the Vikings only condemned a man if he took the "passive" role in the homosexual act. And I quote:
"The secular laws of Viking Age Iceland do not mention homosexuality. The only place where homosexuality is documentably prohibited is by the Christian Church. The Icelandic Homily Book (ca. 1200 C.E.) has a sermon which states that among grave sins are "those appalling secret sins perpetrated by men who respect men no more than women, or violate quadrupeds." Bishop Þorlákr Þórhallson of Skáholt's Penetential (ca. 1178-1193 C.E.) lists penances of nine or ten years that include flogging for "adultery between males, or that committed by men on quadrupeds," and says of lesbianism that "if women satisfy each other they shall be ordered the same penance as men who perform the most hideous adultery between them or with a quadruped." (Sørenson 26) Christian belief condemns both the active and passive roles of homosexual intercourse, whereas the pagan Scandinavians attached disapproval only to the male who was homosexually passive."
What's astonishing is that the writer goes on to suggest that this Viking tolerance for homosexuality is actually
morally superior to the Christian prohibition:
"Homosexuality was not regarded by the Viking peoples as being evil, perverted, innately against the laws of nature or any of the other baggage about the concept that Christian belief has provided Western culture."
The writer even asserts that the homosexual raping of vanquished male enemies was a social norm:
"It is not known how widespread the practice of raping defeated foes actually was, or if it existed before the advent of Christianity, but in other cultures which have had as strong an ethic of masculine aggression as existed among the Vikings, the rape of defeated foemen was obligatory."
Their pagan "gods" themselves reflected their ambivalence to homosexuality, as the gods also exhibited gender confusion at times:
"Loki, of course, is clearly bisexual as he certainly took the female role sexually at least during the encounter with the giant's stallion in Gylfaginning....Óðinn himself, the Allfather and King of the Gods, was justly accused of ergi or unmanliness because of his practice of seiðr or women's magic, as learned from the goddess Freyja."
The writer points out that even Christians noticed and scorned the homosexual proclivities among the pagan priesthood:
"The Christian chronicler Saxo Grammaticus scornfully reported in his Gesta Danorum that some priests of Freyr used "effeminate gestures and the clapping of the mimes on stage and....the unmanly clatter of the bells." Dumézil sees evidence for a group of priests of Njôrðr and Freyr who were honored, yet seem to have engaged in acts of argr, and who may have worn their hair in styles reserved normally only for women or even dressed themselves as women (Dumézil 115)"
The famous Icelandic hero Grettir in the poem
Grettisfærsla is depicted as an omni-sexual pervert, much like Al Goldstein or Lord Rothschild, who had sex with
"maidens and widows, everyone's wives, farmers' sons, deans and courtiers, abbots and abbesses, cows and calves, indeed with near all living creatures," (Sørenson 18) yet no one attached opprobrium to Grettir because of his vast, and omnisexual, prowess."
This article, as I said, is extensively footnoted and includes a large bibliography of citations, which makes it difficult for pagans to refute. You can find the entire article here:
http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/gayvik.shtml
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