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your saying that love means tolerance. but thats not what love is.
That paragraph is sufficient for me to reject your babble. That version of "unconditional personal love" is the pharisaic catholic jew version of "love", which is hypocrisy. "Love the sinner and hate the sin" is not Christian! It leads to the cancellation of the Laws; it is an open gate to hell. The Scriptures tell us to separate ourselves from unrepentant sinners, not to accept them under the pretext of "personal love", i.e. tolerance. Our society is in a terrible state precisely because of false teachings like this one.
"love the sinner and hate the sin" is not christian!"
if you personally love someone, you will not tolerate their evil, but you will be extreme and loving at the same time as you correct their evil and win them back to the straight path of rightness.
regarding who our brothers are, each of us is a son of god, and therefore logically, if christ is our father and we are his sons then we are all brothers. and, extending this further, because it is written that anyone who says he is in the light and hates his brother is a liar, therefore no anointed man may hate any other anointed man, anointed man being defined as pureblooded descendents of the line of jacob israel, the anointed folk, therefore we must love each of our anointed brethren who are pureblooded israelites, as christ gave us two commandments onwhich hang all of the law and the prophets, those being, love god and love our brethren.
logically, your able to love the sinner and reprove him, and if necessary cast him out even, in a loving manner and not a hateful one.
if you personally love someone, you will not tolerate their evil, but you will be extreme and loving at the same time as you correct their evil and win them back to the straight path of rightness.
Filidh wrote:mark, i agree that i myself alone, trevor the man, am not god. in no way am i suggesting this.
the 'i' that is being defined here is not me alone as one individual man. that individual man, trevor, is not the true me, because trevor by himself is incomplete. the 'i am god' comes from recognition of the fact that trevor is only a single member of the body of god jesus christ, and that jesus christ himself is the head of the body and each of us are individual members being subordinated to the head, jesus christ himself.
im not talking of the deification of man, but on the contrary, the recognition of the fact that man is an extension of the living christ himself and that the two together are one. it doesn't deify us, but rather humbles us, to recognize that yahweh in all his might created us and made us extensions of his living self.
-paulXII1 Now concerning the things of the Spirit, brethren, I do not wish that you be ignorant. 2 You know that you were once a people being taken away with yourselves, as you had been taken away to dumb idols. 3 Therefore I explain to you that no one speaking in the Spirit of Yahweh says, ‘Accursed is Yahshua’; and no one is able to say ‘Prince Yahshua’ except by the Holy Spirit. 4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit; 5 and there are diversities of services, and the same Prince; 6 and there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God who operates all things in all. 7 And to each is given manifestation of the Spirit towards that which is advantageous. 8 While to one through the Spirit a word of wisdom is given, then to another a word of knowledge, down through the same Spirit; 9 and to another faith, in the same Spirit, and to another gifts of the means of healing, in the same Spirit; 10 and to another operations of power, and to another interpretation of prophecy, and to another dissolution of spirits, to another sorts of languages, and to another interpretation of languages. 11 But all these things one and the same Spirit operates, dividing personally to each just as He wills.
12 For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, being many, are one body, so also the Anointed. 13 For also in one Spirit all we into one body have been immersed, whether Judaeans or Greeks, whether bondmen or freemen, and all one Spirit have been watered. 14 For also the body is not one member, but many. 15 If perhaps the foot may say, ‘Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body’, because of this is it not of the body? 16 And if perhaps the ear may say, ‘Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body’, because of this is it not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where is the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where is the sense of smell? 18 But now Yahweh places the members, each one of them in the body, just as He wishes. 19 But if all would be one member, where is the body? 20 And now indeed many are members, yet are one body. 21 And the eye is not able to say to the hand, ‘I have no need of you’; or again the head to the feet, ‘I have no need of you’, 22 But still much more, those members of the body imagined to be too weak are necessary; 23 And those of the body which we imagine to be less valuable, upon these we confer more abundant dignity; and those unseemly of us have more abundant elegance. 24 But the elegant of us have no need. Rather Yahweh has tempered the body together, giving more abundant esteem to that which is wanting, 25 in order that there would not be division in the body, but the members would have the same concern for one another. 26 And if one member is affected, all the members are affected together; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice together. 27 So then, you are an anointed body, and members by destiny. 28 And while Yahweh places these in the assembly: firstly ambassadors, secondly interpreters of prophecy, thirdly teachers, after that those with abilities, then gifts of the means of healing, supports, guides, sorts of languages. 29 Are all ambassadors? Are all interpreters of prophecy? Are all teachers? Are all able? 30 Do all have gifts of the means of healing? Do all speak in languages? Do all interpret? 31 Now you admire the better gifts, and yet I show to you a way just as excellent.
XIII1 If perhaps I would speak in the languages of men and of Messengers, but I do not have love, I have become brass sounding or a cymbal clanging. 2 And if I have the gift of interpretation of prophecy, and I know all mysteries and all knowledge, and if perhaps I have all the faith so as to remove mountains, but I do not have love, I am naught. 3 And if perhaps I employ all my possessions in feeding others, and if I would hand over my body in order that I may boast, but I do not have love, I am due nothing. 4 Love has patience, is beneficial, love is not jealous, love does not vaunt itself, is not inflated, 5 does not behave disgracefully, seeks not things for itself, is not provoked, does not consider evil, 6 does not rejoice upon injustice, but rejoices with the truth; 7 contains all, trusts all, expects all, endures all. 8 Love never fails. But whether interpretations of prophecy, they shall be abolished; or languages, they shall be brought to an end; or knowledge, it shall be left unemployed. 9 By destiny we know, and by destiny we interpret prophecy; 10 but when the fulfillment would come, that by destiny shall be abolished. 11 When I was an infant, I spoke as an infant, I thought as an infant, I reasoned as an infant. When I had become a man, I laid aside the things of the infant. 12 For now we see through a mirror in riddles, but then face to face; now I know by destiny, but then I will recognize just as also I have been recognized. 13 And now, abide in faith, expectation, love, these three things; but the greater of these is love.
Les wrote:After that, I lost getting any "feelings" of deja-vu.
You know, when your mind and body tingle in a way that can't be achieved otherwise?
Sometimes, I would still realize I had been somewhere or met somebody or heard/watched something EXACTLY even though I never did in real life before.
Filidh wrote:we are god because he and us are one,
we will be as the master.... we will be as him. do you not see?
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