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Care to recommend books you deem essential in understanding our zietgiest from a CI perspective?

I'll start with:

Human Accomplishment
Charles Murray

"Consider this claim: that the greatest human accomplishments require mastery of rigorous constraints first achieved almost exclusively by white Western European males. One might guess that it would be Charles Murray making such an argument. In his latest book, Human Accomplishment, Murray steps back up to the plate after Losing Ground and The Bell Curve with a thesis sure to irritate most of America's thinking class." the jewish Washington Post

and Culture of Critique
Kevin MacDonald

"MacDonald provides a theoretical analysis and review of data on the widespread tendency among certain highly influential, Jewish-dominated intellectual movements to develop radical critiques of gentile culture that are compatible with the continuity of Jewish identification. Particular attention is paid to Boasian anthropology, psychoanalysis, leftist political ideology and behavior, the Frankfurt School of Social Research, and the efforts to influence United States immigration policy."


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Thanks, Zenas. I just posted Chapter 5 of The Culture of Critique on the Mein Kampf site, along with a review by MacDonald of another book concerning the Frankfurt School. While MacDaonald is an evolutionist, and unaware that the jews are not actually who they claim to be, his assessments of their negative impact on Western Civilization, and his details of how they undermine our society, are very good and certainly are a worthwhile read. Sword Brethren and I plan to discuss the Frankfurt School on an upcoming Sunday night Talkshoe program, for which I plan to draw heavily from MacDonald's work on the subject.

......his assessments of their negative impact on Western Civilization, and his details of how they undermine our society, are very good and certainly are a worthwhile read.

agreed, hard to find better, he is thorough in his research, has to be, with the ADL and the SPLC all over him. Not going to find too many of his caliber 100% accurate, as his time is not devoted to the same aspects of the topic at hand as ours.

I also learned much from Steven M. Collins' works on the 12 Tribes of Israel. He too, is confused in some aspects re: the jews, but for the most part he does a great service with his research. Highly recommended also.

Well, a lot of people in Christian Identity think that guys like Steven Collins are doing us a service. And in a way they are, if they pull some people out of the judaized churches and put them on a different path, but I have spoken badly of Collins, and I do not repent of it. I have written to Collins, as has Clifton Emahiser, in reference to his error where he confuses modern Jewry for Judah, and he is absolutely unrepentant.

Recently, the British Israel World Federation, which also mistakes modern jewry for Judah, has been rebuffed by a major website, which cites DNA evidence that disproves any relationship between the Anglo-Saxons and the jews. Their conclusion is, of course, that because of that evidence, the Saxons cannot possibly be any part of "lost" Israel. Here I have to side with that website. If we accept modern jewry for Judah, we are denying Scripture, we are ignoring the testimony of prophecy (i.e. Ezekiel 35, Malachi 1-2) and history, and we are giving away a large portion of our own inheritance to our ancient enemies! Collins certainly assists in this conspiracy.

I would rather deal with an atheist, or an evolutionist, since while they may deny the Word of God, at least they aren't overtly corrupting it! At least, usually many of them do not. In other words, a blind man is better to live with than a deceptive one.

they pull some people out of the judaized churches and put them on a different path

in a way, that would be me, except for that I have not been in the judaized churches for most of my Christian life. I already knew that the dispensationalist's, "fly away in the sky" view was bogus, and all those tele-evangelists were / are charlatans, and that the so-called jews, "God's Chosen," are our biggest enemy, etc. If not for God's grip on me and my early deep study of the Word of God, I would have turned aside long ago.

But before Collins, I was clueless re: 12 Tribes history. What Collins does is explain the 12 Tribes with an easy to understand practical approach. Makes sense to me. If not Collins, who? Where are the CI works that take the place of Collins?

Agree that some of the Bible's and Christianity's biggest enemies are those that embrace both and then teach heresy to the masses who - instead of studying - [what ever happened to "study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth?] accept what they are told, like a newborn babe accepts the mother's teat. Then, when shown how the reality is otherwise, can't explain or defend their position and resort to ad hominem and/or avoidance.

I'll to a search but would you mind posting the link to that "major website" that has rebuffed the BIWF? I often run into detractors who claim DNA evidence "proves" that today's so-called jews are the same as those found in Scripture, by that I mean Judahites. Admittedly, DNA science is a difficult topic to get one's mind around if one's mind is not scientifically trained, like mine, but I will give it my best.

thanks for your attention to these issues.

I often run into detractors who claim DNA evidence "proves" that today's so-called jews are the same as those found in Scripture,

Zenas,

I've had people say that to me before. What I will say is something to this effect: You mean they found the body of Shem after all this times?

From there, it's easy to dispute their case. Even without vast knowledge of DNA, most people know that one must have some DNA on which to base this claim.

So whereas there is no DNA evidence, their argument falls apart. We do; however, have historical documents on our side and this the tact that must be taken, IMO.

There are all kinds of CI DSL sites. If you need a list, I'll get one together for you.

McDonald is like a guy who looks at a new Ferrari, realizes it's a cool sportscar and can go very fast, but does not know who the manufacturer is

Now I'm going to say some things that will turn off the weak minded. I will not apologize, either

His analysis of jewish traits and pathologies/methods is excellent, until he goes back into the Old Testament and tries to use the Yahweh-ordered genocides of Caananites..etc..as proof that "jews are genocidal".

That was US [white Israel] doing those genocides, and I would do it all over again if Yahweh ordered it

Patrricia,

I will get started on that this evening after work. I might even start a separate thread and people can add to it. maybe we should even provide our own critical analysis of the various sites.

Commander,

That was US [white Israel] doing those genocides, and I would do it all over again if Yahweh ordered it

EXACTLY, bearing in mind that those whom YHWH told us to destroy were of Cain's stock, I wish our forebearers had put every last one of them to death. It is because they failed at this critical juncture that we have to contend with them today!

Sometimes we are so stupid - all heart and feelings and no eyes.

You are right Patricia, it is very frustrating trying ferret out GOOD DSL websites. When James makes his list, as he suggests, we should start a new thread on RECOMMENDED CI/DSL sites and sticky it in the appropriate forum, then everyone can add their own list and it could be a very good reference tool for the future.