Jesus Bar Abbas or Jesus the Messiah?

[Aspectator]

Dear Mr. Finck,

I have a question that troubles me:

What is the difference between Jesus Bar Abbas(Jesus the Son of the Father), which the Jews chose to be released, and Jesus the Messiah(Annointed)? The two may have been mixed up. What is the New testament based upon, Jesus Bar Abbas of Jesus Meshiach? What are the facts and your opinion on this matter? Some researches have said the Aramaic speaking Ionian Pythagorean Saint, Appolonius of Tyana, which the pictures of Jesus Christ are based on, was that crucified "Jesus the Messiah" http://www.apollonius.net/turinshroud.html. Lately, many bible labels are starting to print "Jesus Bar Abbas," rather than hiding the fact and just printing "Barrabas" as was in the past, which has caused much more confusion.

Mr. Finck, you better write out a paper with the facts on this topic, because the Jidritz's making books on it, causing much more confusion.

Blessings to you!

[matthewott]

First, this Rob Solarion character you link to is no biblical scholar. The title of his books alone stink of paganism. This notion of confusion you refer to does not exist here, in two seedline christian identity, and anyone trying to propagate such confusion is a jew in every sense of the word. Yahshua, the Christ, the Messiah, the Israelites' kinsman Redeemer, is the ONLY ONE prophesied in the OT. Yahshua Christ of the NT is the only one who fulfilled scripture prophesy. He is the only one who preached The Truth and sacrificed himself to seal the New Covenant, restoring the marriage between Yahweh and his bride, the children of Israel. The only people dumb enough to contrive a name discrepancy to discredit the validity of Yahshua's Messiahship are the jews. Just like they call Yahshua, Yeshua. If they actually admitted to his name being Yahshua, they would be admitting to his Messiahship as his name directly translated is "Yahweh is salvation", as the OT prophesied he would be called. No need for Mr. Finck to waste time writing a paper on this one. Anyone that this subject confuses simply needs to read the bible to be reassured that there is no "case of mistaken identity". And who or what is this "Jidritz"? Sounds jewish to me. In case you hadn't noticed, anything jew-inspired is NOT a credible source for Biblical scholarship, except for pointing out deliberate lies, misinformation, disinformation, and blatant mistranslations!

[obadiah83]

Aspectator writes:

What is the difference between Jesus Bar Abbas(Jesus the Son of the Father), which the Jews chose to be released, and Jesus the Messiah(Annointed)? The two may have been mixed up.

No, I think YOU are mixed up! No one needs to justify their faith to a faithless judaizer. The scripture saith:

"…He expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening. And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not."

You either believe that Jesus was the Christ or you dont. Obviously, you dont. Therefore, you have your part in the lake of fire, that is, if you even have a soul.

A musky jewish stench arises from your post. In the Holy and Blessed Name of Christ Jesus, the Messiah, I rebuke you and bind you.

[Les]

From what i remember reading somewhere, Barabbas was an imprisoned freedom fighter, so that's one reason why some were very loud in having him be free.

[obadiah83]

Yes, Les, that's how I've always understood it. I don't know where Swift did the reseach for that sermon, but it's very compelling. Here's the link to it:

http://www.israelect.com/reference/WesleyASwift/sermons/64-03-25.htm

The jews hated them both, but they hated Jesus more.

[Les]

Yes, Les, that's how I've always understood it. I don't know where Swift did the reseach for that sermon, but it's very compelling. Here's the link to it:

http://www.israelect.com/reference/WesleyASwift/sermons/64-03-25.htm

The jews hated them both, but they hated Jesus more.

That must be it, as I had ordered a few Swift sermon booklets from Aryan Nations in the 1990s.

Sometimes I'd like to be able to get back into studying Swift,
but after I could not prove what he preached to others (as there were never any footnotes), I slowly ignored his sermons.

If there was something tangible, even a little piece...
you know, Wickstrom sometimes is esoteric too like Wesley Swift, but he has gone a little more ahead than Swift , providing links to scientific or historical data for example.

[wmfinck]

I do not "better" write a paper responding to kike garbage. It would be like writing a paper in response to the next Speilberg novel. When are Christians going to learn, that whenever a jew moves his (or her) lips, he is lying!

And there is no proof that Barabbas' given name was Joshua (Jesus). It may have been Hymie for all we really know.

Drop the candy and back away from the jew books and papers: it may save what sanity you still have.

[JamesTheJust]

Well, since you went ahead and did it Bill, so am I.

For the love of YHWH. STOP LISTENING TO THE VILE, DISGUSTING, PERVERTED, POISONOUS DAMNED JEWS!

It's bad enough that the IDIOTS of JEW-DEO ANTI-CHRISTianity listen to those demons. No one in CI should ever take the word of a damned Edomite jew!

Whenever you hear garbage like this; track it back to its source. I'll guarantee you that its a damned jew.