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Newcomer??? Well, that would be relative.

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 10:43 pm
by wmfinck
Just for the hell of it, I just want to set the record straight. It has been brought to my attention that some idiot who calls himself a CI pastor recently said that I have only been around for "4 or 5 years" or something like that.

If anyone is curious, I had started corresponding with Clifton Emahiser in the summer of 1998.

Here is a copy of an ordination certificate I received in December of 2000. Frank Smith signed it. I only corresponded with him a few times before he became ill and, from what I was informed, moved to Texas to be with some family.

It is dated in December, 8th 2000. That is a little more than "4 or 5 years", LOL.
http://christogenea.org/resources/ordinationcert.pdf

Not that I think much of certificates...

It was Ralph Daigle, who was at the time a co-pastor in a Michigan CI church headed by James Wickstrom, who had recommended me to Frank Smith. I had known Ralph personally for several years at the time. From what I understand, Smith worked with George Lincoln Rockwell before he was assassinated.

I know for a fact that Eli James cannot show you an ordination certificate with his name on it that is as old as 2000, unless it says "Joseph November", LOL

On a lighter note, I certainly am a newcomer, especially compared to Emahiser, Wickstrom, Downey, Daigle, etc. But I just wanted to show that I have been around a little longer than some clowns think.

Re: Newcomer??? Well, that would be relative.

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:45 am
by Coenraad
Bill, just another untruth-smear!

I think most of us here (if not all) will agree - it does not matter how long but what you have achieved that matters - it is to the shame of those that have had the knowledge longer than you that have not grown in the knowledge at all. Some have even fallen back!

The parable of the servants given talents to work with while the their master is away comes to mind – you will not be found wanting when the MASTER returns!

Re: Newcomer??? Well, that would be relative.

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 5:52 am
by Joe
Very true ...and some of those clowns could be in CI a hundred years and still be telling lies and causing discord.
It is what they are.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:34 pm
by Staropramen
wmfinck wrote:I had known Ralph personally for several years at the time. From what I understand, Smith worked with George Lincoln Rockwell before he was assassinated.


Do you know if there is any truth in what I've heard concerning Rockwell either accepting or coming close to accepting CI before his death?

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 7:28 pm
by Kentucky
Staropramen wrote:
wmfinck wrote:I had known Ralph personally for several years at the time. From what I understand, Smith worked with George Lincoln Rockwell before he was assassinated.


Do you know if there is any truth in what I've heard concerning Rockwell either accepting or coming close to accepting CI before his death?

I came into CI through Pastor Ralph Forbes, who was chaplain of the NSWWP at the time of Rockwell's death. Ralph has told me that even he was roughly familiarizing himself with the new revelations of our identity. So Rockwell was getting close, but unfortunately his time here expired. Rockwell, by the way, was never hostile to Christianity as was his successor Matt Kohl, which is why I stopped supporting that organization and many other people also.

Mark

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:21 pm
by Staropramen
Kentucky wrote:Rockwell, by the way, was never hostile to Christianity as was his successor Matt Kohl, which is why I stopped supporting that organization and many other people also.

Mark


Yes, I know. That's why I respect George Lincoln Rockwell. That and he had a boatload of guts. His willingness to continually put himself in harm's way is inspiring. He sacrificed everything.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 6:52 pm
by Kentucky
Staropramen wrote:
Kentucky wrote:Rockwell, by the way, was never hostile to Christianity as was his successor Matt Kohl, which is why I stopped supporting that organization and many other people also.

Mark


Yes, I know. That's why I respect George Lincoln Rockwell. That and he had a boatload of guts. His willingness to continually put himself in harm's way is inspiring. He sacrificed everything.

That type of courage runs parallel to faith. Years ago I heard someone say: faith is not merely believing something regardless of the evidence; faith is daring to do something regardless of the consequences.

Mark