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Thanks, Ryan, i am humbled.

The best thing I have got from Brother Ryan is his ideas on Government, as everyone knows, that is where he focuses. But I had never thought of that before ...I had always inclined to NS, and did not think too much about it.

Now I think Brother Ryan is absolutely right that anarchy, God alone, is the Christian Government. In realizing this, it became apparent just how greatly with differ from WN.

He is also good for putting people at ease, he's not trying to accuse anyone, create intrigues, he is an honest guy. True blue, real Aussie type, I really appreciate his videos.

Now I think Brother Ryan is absolutely right that anarchy, God alone, is the Christian Government.

If a country breaks free of Zionism chains, how would this country in question be ruled, as God is not here on Earth? Someone/something has to represent Him here. Bringing NS back would be a good representation.

Lang wrote:

Now I think Brother Ryan is absolutely right that anarchy, God alone, is the Christian Government.

If a country breaks free of Zionism chains, how would this country in question be ruled, as God is not here on Earth? Someone/something has to represent Him here. Bringing NS back would be a good representation.

Brother Ryan's definition of anarchy is not the same definition we commonly associate with that word. He discussed this with Bill when he was on his podcast. I think you mentioned that you don't listen to the podcasts because of the language barrier, correct? I'll try to give that recording another listen tonight and summarize what he means by anarchy.

Staropramen wrote:

Lang wrote:

Now I think Brother Ryan is absolutely right that anarchy, God alone, is the Christian Government.

If a country breaks free of Zionism chains, how would this country in question be ruled, as God is not here on Earth? Someone/something has to represent Him here. Bringing NS back would be a good representation.

Brother Ryan's definition of anarchy is not the same definition we commonly associate with that word. He discussed this with Bill when he was on his podcast. I think you mentioned that you don't listen to the podcasts because of the language barrier, correct? I'll try to give that recording another listen tonight and summarize what he means by anarchy.

Correct. But don't you think NS was the best form of representation we had in recent history?

^Yeah I thought NS was ideal Lang. Now I realize it just allows WN to be apostate and carry-on with their 'race before religion' nonsense. I think we are suppose to live with God as our only king, guided by His Laws. Anything less is imperfect.

I do not believe in their movement. But I didn't realize that my ideas on Government were influenced by them. It is liberating to realize that I can separate myself further from WN ideology and move closer to God and Biblical truth. True liberty is with God.

WN's and so-called "National-Socialists" never understand the significance of one simple thing: Hitler and NS have been vanquished by Babylon. And that is the lesson: no man or system of men can beat the power of the beast system until the time appointed. Yahweh is the ruler of History; only Him know and has the good weight and balance, not men. And the plan of Yahweh is perfect!

Staropramen wrote:Brother Ryan's definition of anarchy is not the same definition we commonly associate with that word. He discussed this with Bill when he was on his podcast. I think you mentioned that you don't listen to the podcasts because of the language barrier, correct? I'll try to give that recording another listen tonight and summarize what he means by anarchy.

Personally, I knew about the anarchism of Bakunin et al prior to listening, and whilst I am sympathetic to anarchism, I've never liked the essentially secularist agenda that most of it's thinkers have supported.

Moreover I'd suggest that the strict laws and punishments prescribed in the Bible for offences requires a strong leadership in the manner of the Israelite patriarchs. And whilst this family-based government can draw some parallels with anarchism, it still requires a leadership at the top to enforce God's law, and this requires a deference and obedience that isn't really compatible with anarchism.

You also have to look at what Israel did when Moses ascended Mt Sinai to see that most people can't be trusted with their own governance.

Fenwick said:

You also have to look at what Israel did when Moses ascended Mt Sinai to see that most people can't be trusted with their own governance.

So would it resemble NS?.

I think when it does happen, God will be King and that any that refuse to have Him rule over them will ...Christ said something about this. We are in this situation for disobedience, another theme of that podcast we are discussing.

Ryan is not a proponent of Bakunin or Proudhon. He is only a proponent of Christ.

The point in mentoning the early Anarchists, is to show that their philosophical concept of anarchy was quite different from the modern concept.

Modern White anarchists are youths disaffected with the system entirely. Part of Ryan's endeavor is to persuade them that Christ and the truth found in CI is what they seek, and the answer to their disaffection.

At least, that is how I see it from talking to him.

In much the same way, i have sought to win over NS by seeking to propagate the truth about Hitler and Christianity. It has on many occasions been effective.