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The 4/15 Bible Study at the First Baptist Church of Naples

Postby wmfinck » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:14 pm

Attending the April 15th Bible Study at the First Baptist Church of Naples

Last Wednesday while visiting Martin in South Florida, he and I had attended a Bible Study at the First Baptist Church of Naples. Apparently, long ago Martin had attended that church for a while, and he thought it would be interesting if I could go with him to attend such a study. I also thought it useful, since I had never in my life attended any Protestant church or services until very recently, when Melissa and I had attended a service at the non-denominational Lighthouse Church at Panama City Beach back in March. I plan on attending two or even three more such services this year, as we get an opportunity to do so. It is certainly not that we are converting or becoming church-goers. Melissa is not looking forward to these events. Rather, I have wanted and have even needed to become acquainted with these things because I am planning an article, or possibly a couple of articles, relating to subjects concerning mainstream churches. So it was good for me to see firsthand one of their Bible studies, and observing such an event was certainly insightful.

We walked into this Bible Study a few minutes late, since we had engaged in several other activities that day and had a longer-than-expected drive. Of course I was wearing a Christogenea t-shirt, the one that has the "crosstika" design on it, which is what we call the cross in the circles with the swastika drawn rather discreetly in the center. I was never asked about that shirt while we were there. The study was held in a large auditorium, and the first 30 minutes were consumed by a presentation, sort of a sermon, which was supposedly on Jude 14 and 15. The words to those verses were displayed on a large monitor mounted over a stage where the speaker was at a podium. We shall read them here:

Jude wrote:14 And to these also Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, Behold, the Lord came with ten thousands of his holy ones, 15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their works of ungodliness which they have ungodly wrought, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.


However nothing the speaker said had anything to do with these words from Jude. Rather, he had gone over to Hebrews chapter 11 where Paul had written that “5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.” Then he gave a description of the account of Enoch in Genesis, and spent most of the rest of his time conjecturing how Enoch was translated, and then imagining how he himself and those found worthy in his audience may also be translated. The sermon said nothing of what Jude had said that Enoch had prophesied, or about any of the Christian responsibilities which are suggested by that prophecy. The sermon said nothing about the context in which Jude had repeated the prophecy. The prophecy is not found in the Book of Genesis, or anywhere else in the standard Bibles, but nobody seemed to care about that either. The sermon was only designed to make listeners think about themselves, and make them feel good by compelling them to place themselves into some sort of fantasy. The fantasy itself was evidently related to some sort of rapture doctrine. It was exacerbated by the speaker's repeating that Enoch had pleased God, for which reason he was translated, but it never provided any substance as to how Enoch may have pleased God. While I did not ask if that particular church believed in a rapture doctrine, it is evident from their own statement of beliefs that they do believe in a rapture, although perhaps not in the way it is usually depicted.

Aside from a stage, the auditorium had perhaps three dozen or so large round conference tables, and around each of them were perhaps eight or ten seats. They were not all filled, but the hall was full enough so that a couple of hundred men were in attendance. A separate Bible study for women was being held in another part of the rather large complex. Before we had entered there was a list of names and numbers on a table at the entrance to the auditorium. Upon entering and seeing the numbered tables it could be determined that each of those names represented a church elder, and each had his own assigned table, where attendants were more or less free to choose the table where they wanted to sit. Certainly diverse attendants must have had their favorites from among the church elders, so the list at the door would make them easy to find. We chose a table rather randomly, the only deciding factor being that all of the others at the table were apparently White, and since perhaps 85 to 90% of the attendants were White, it was not hard to find a table that met our simple criteria. As a digression, Martin had noticed that practically all of the non-Whites in attendance were much younger than most of the Whites who were there, so the church is not likely to maintain its White majority for too many years into the future. We sat at a table of five or six other men mostly in their 70's which was moderated by a church elder named Erv, a rather friendly and affable man. Aside from Martin, there was only one other man who from my estimation was younger than myself, whose name was Everett.

Erv started off with a few words concerning things which had been said the previous week, and then asked Martin and I whether it was our first time there, and why we chose to come. Martin said a few words about having attended years before and being curious, while I stated rather bluntly that I would not belong to any organized church but only wanted to observe their Bible study out of my own curiosity. With that I did not manage to arouse any suspicion, so Erv went on by talking for a couple of minutes about the sermon, and asking each of us our impression. To my surprise, I got to speak first.

Not wanting to alienate anyone by straying from the topic I did not really have an opportunity to talk about Christian Identity, although I did try to frame my words so as to invite an inquiry. However I did have the opportunity to quote those verses in Jude that should have been the substance of the sermon, and to explain that since Christ was returning to punish the ungodly for “all their ungodly deeds which they had ungodly committed”, that such an expectation required Christians to keep God's Law so that they would not be counted among those ungodly sinners. Doing so, among other Scriptures I had cited things such as Paul's insistence that Christians establish the law and his admonitions to obedience in Christ from Romans chapters 3 and 15, as well as the admonition of Christ that “if you love Me, keep My commandments” which every Christian should recognize from the Gospel.

With this, I had spoken for several minutes, and certainly much longer than any of the men at the table had expected. When I was done, I received no response other than some blank stares. Then Erv simply moved on to the next man and around the table. Each of them said something, but there was no further discussion about the original passages in question. During the course of the next few exchanges, a few men had stressed the importance of going to a church such as theirs in order to have fellowship with God. Of course, that was indeed a part of the actual substance of the sermon that evening, even if it had little to do with the original Bible verses which had been cited from Jude.

So when I had gotten another opportunity to speak, I once again cited the words of Christ where He said “if you love Me, keep My commandments”, and then in John chapter 14 where He said “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” I also cited the passage in Matthew where Christ had stated that “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.” Expounding on this last passage, I explained how the Greek word for church actually referred to those who were called out from among the people of God in the world, and where in the Book of Acts (chapters 5 and 8) and in Paul's epistles (1 Corinthians 14:23) those people were referred to as the “church” at any given time whether or not they were gathered in any particular place. I also mentioned that at those early times there were no official so-called “church” organizations, and I stressed the fact that wherever obedient Christians were gathered, Christ had promised to be there with them.

Upon my saying these things, Everett made a lengthy response. He was a man who from his previous conversation was evidently some sort of military officer, and who was also a rather clean-cut, well-spoken and well-dressed man at least a few years younger than I, perhaps about 45 years old. His general demeanor seemed to be naturally quiet, but with these last comments of mine he was visibly irritated. So he began a dissertation which asserted that nobody could know anything about Scripture unless he came to learn it from an organization of men who were formally educated in the Scripture. He claimed that it mattered not how much one studied the Bible, but only that one learn from pastors who were experienced, who alone could reveal many of the secrets of Scripture. I am paraphrasing this of course, and it would have been better if I had recorded it, but Everett certainly exhibited these same attitudes at length in his speech. Towards the end, he looked at me and said something to the effect that a church neophyte should not be allowed to make his own doctrines. With this, I had already had an answer for Everett formulated in my mind, but I never had the opportunity to present it. Erv, who was visibly becoming uncomfortable with any real discussion of Scripture, ended the conversation as Everett finished speaking, since the originally scheduled 90 minutes were rather conveniently coming to their completion.

Writing this, I went back to examine the church's statement of beliefs. They say nothing about God's law. They say nothing about the commandments of Christ. However they do say that Christians “must experience worship, nurture and service in a local church”. Now I realize why Everett had been so upset with my definition of what a church actually is, and with my perception of fellowship with God. Now I also realize why nobody responded to what I had said about the need to keep God's law. My position was in contradiction to their established beliefs, regardless of whether it was supported by Scripture. Where it conflicts with their established doctrines, Scripture evidently does not matter at all.

I pray Everett misses the real rapture, when the tares are all gathered and burned in the fire, so that he may see the true Church of God.

There is much more that could be said about this evening, but this will certainly suffice for the time being.
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Re: The 4/15 Bible Study at the First Baptist Church of Napl

Postby Staropramen » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:51 pm

The quickest way to drive a judeo nuts is to quote scripture in a responsible manner.
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Re: The 4/15 Bible Study at the First Baptist Church of Napl

Postby MichaelAllen » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:30 am

What stood out to me in your experience, Bill, was when these other men stress the importance of "church membership" --- this is very common in the protestant (and protestant offshoots) organizations.

It's as if they believe, "If you go to church, God blesses you. If you don't, God curses you." Instead of the keeping of the law.

I had a long tirade against my father-in-law recently when he tried to assert that the financial difficulties that my wife (his daughter) and I have had is because we haven't been members of the church.

You talk about unloading on someone. I gave him a 6 page thesis on why I reject his position. What's really disturbing about this fellow is, he understands our Israelite heritage. He understands the laws of God (to some extent). But he has no conviction about anything except "go to church, because that's the institution that God established to change things in this world." --- I asked him to prove to me that the church as it is currently is ready to hear the true gospel to the white Adamic world. I asked him to prove that these organizations are not tools in the hands of the antichrists jews who wish to miscegenate the white race, and to displace us in our own lands via the state departments who are flooding us with the other peoples.

I recently went to their church building (a semi-mega church in the burbs) for a purpose other than their Baal worship (of course they call him Jesus, but that's a whole other story), and it is undergoing the same kind of ethnic displacement that you mentioned about this particular place you visited - it is attracting more non-whites and race-mixers than unchurched whites.

When I first found CI back in '08, I can tell you that my desire was to try to find white people in these institutions that I thought were interested in deeper truths. Lots of luck to any of you who wish to do so.

My wife and I have discussed this with one another at length over the years since then and what we've found is that most people in these organizations are really not interested in anything more than some sort of real life social network. It's a place to be told that you're great, and God is good to you, and that everything is all about God (blah blah blah)... these people have the verbiage down. My CI buddy Brad once said, "When I first came out of it, I found their rhetoric irritating. Now I find it downright creepy."

And it is creepy. It's just insanity. They have lost the ability to process concepts, and when you try to explain to them the difference between semantics and definitives, and why all of their theology is so messed up... you get those blank stares.

It's highly unlikely that you'll get people from within the religious institutions to drop out of their institutions on the basis of theological truth. They aren't IN those institutions for the sake of the truth in the first place. Their Bible studies (as you pointed out Bill) consist of a lot of dialog about why what they do is so important. They tell themselves that it is important. They are in those institutions because it fills some sort of social void that is lacking greatly in our modern lifestyles because of the Babylonian system. They have no sense of community in their nice, plush suburban lives... so... they go to church. And this particular brand of social club has the name of God attached to it, so it makes it way more authentic than say... hanging out at the local country club drinking beer and playing golf.

I'll take the latter to be honest with you. Most of those folks are at least white.

My observation of these suburban churches is one of two categories. They are either becoming dark (negroes, asians, etc), or their ranks are filled primarily with those whites who have made something of themselves commercially in the babylonian economic system. Most of those people don't work at Walmart, or Target, or the fast food chains. They are much higher up in the socio-economic strata of modern white America.

As a result, they don't see a lot of the financial suffering that their kindred are undergoing in this system. These are the capitalist lovers. The two-choicer types ("if you're not a capitalist, you're a communist/socialist") are enamored with FoxNews, CNN money, GW Bush, many pro-IsraeLIE types (especially in the southern Baptist convention), and all around constitute some of the most useless people I have ever had to encounter.

This particular brand of judeochristian is likely to participate in one or more of the following:
1.) Adopt a nigger
2.) Adopt an asian
3.) participate in church "service" projects for the inner city nigger communities, such as painting their houses, having fun days with the nigger kids, etc.
4.) Give money to organizations to help niggers (primarily) who have been in trouble with the law go through a program of re-education where they are taught how to... show up for work, dress for a job interview... basically suppress all of their genetic tendencies to be a sloth by day and rapist by night. --- These organizations who facilitate this are funded by various local suburban (white money'd) churches, and they have a network of contacts through which they have access to local employers who will hire these "graduates." They do this kind of BS work all the while there are white families in their own communities who've never had problems with the law, but are suffering financial hardships. This one makes me want to blow a fuse to be honest with you.
5.) They hire niggers with house cleaning services to come into their homes and clean their house - stories I've heard is that some of these white women have had to actually teach these niggresses who are already in business how to actually do the work. Ridiculous. Meanwhile, there are white mothers and wives who have good cleaning services who aren't running up to the church door feigning conversion/allegiance to the group to solicit business as do the niggers. <--- If you stop and consider this, it is simply the logical outcome of believing in universalism. If Paul meant that we are ALL one in Christ in a multi-racial, multi-ethnic sense... and that we are all to prefer one another... well, that pretty much means that you have to do what all these idiotic white churchgoers are doing. Because to them, your brother isn't your racial kindred. It's whoever is a member of your stupid social club. Stamping the name of Jesus on your baal worship doesn't make it Christian. In fact, I'd say that this is the real meaning of using the name of the Lord in vain - ascribing to God qualities, morals, or ideologies that aren't His.
6.) Many of these very well-to-do white men have daughters who are marrying off into the other races because as it currently is, many young white men have been beat down to the point that they can't even compete in this system. Two I know (knew) personally. One married an east indian (a medical doctor), and the other married a light skinned nigger (both his daughter and the half-nigger are medical doctors). Now, both of these white men are VERY wealthy white men. I'm talking multiplied millions of dollars. All of that money is going to go to the inheritance of racial aliens. This is one of the reasons I have tried to stress to our young CI men to go and take on the professions of the robes (with the exception of law school, because there are no jobs for lawyers... just ask my wife). But engineering, finance (yes, I know it's corrupt, but bankers have a lot of clout with their borrowers as far as getting people jobs, etc.), the IT/tech field, etc. We need people of our CI faith in positions of power and influence. I think it has been a mistake that too many CI parents have made to teach their kids to run to the hills and hide. At the same time, I'm not advocating turning them over to the world without first instilling in them conviction. If they don't have the conviction, fine, don't send them out - keep them on the sheep camp hill with you. But the fact is, Christianity didn't begin to have a serious impact in the world until many of the leaders of the Britannic and Germanic tribes adopted the faith, and it was at that time that the leadership began to push the jew away from power and oust him from political control.

Well, that's about what you'll find in modern churchianity.

It's a class of white suburbanites who haven't felt the economic factors yet of the totalitarian system of jew-owned government. Therefore, they haven't had anything to wake them up out of their illusion. Therefore, they have no external compulsion to seek for any kind of truth about why the world is messed up. The only bad things that seem to happen to these people is that many of them are coming down with "terminal" illnesses (i.e. cancer, etc). And most of this is related to their fake food diets and the consumption of things forbidden by God's laws. And then of course, they take their children to the butchers (oncologists, etc) because this is all part of the system of babylon.

These people are spiritually and intellectually dead. Flatlined.
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Re: The 4/15 Bible Study at the First Baptist Church of Napl

Postby Staropramen » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:47 am

MichaelAllen; that's one of the best posts I've ever read. Right on point after point.
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Re: The 4/15 Bible Study at the First Baptist Church of Napl

Postby wmfinck » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:22 am

Michael, thanks for the wonderful insights and the direct manner of expressing them.

Many of these things I have realized through the few people from that environment that I spoke to in prison, most all of whom rejected me even there, or the fewer who have managed to come out from it over the years. But I wanted to see at least some of it it first-hand for myself, since that is the only honest way I can write about it.

Wow, I have yet to make a post about our trip to the church in PCB. Not that the experience was any big thing, but I did make a couple of observations:

The 30-minute Christian rock music sing-along and accompanying Karaoke lyrics on the giant-screen monitors serves two purposes:

1) It makes each participating individual feel important, as if he/she is a part of some sort of show for Jesus. So everybody is a "star". It feeds on the sense of ego and individualism which is also taught in their theology of works-based salvation (even if the "works" part is only a profession of belief or participation in a baptism ritual).

2) It gives the participants a false sense of community, through which they form bonds just like teenagers at a rock concert feel a sense of comaraderie simply because they like the same band.

(My next article on this topic is titled "Pop Churches".)

Then follows a 20 or 25-minute sermon on some "Christianity Lite" moral topic. I have witnessed two of these so far, and the other one was a live online sermon while I was in Bristol. They measure morality by society's standards and say nothing about the Laws of Yahweh God.

I told Melissa that if I had a job pastoring at a church where that was all that was expected of me, I would probably not need to open another book forever. You can just make the stuff up, throw the name "Jesus" around a few times, and all the brain dead people in the congregation would love it no matter what you said. All you have to do is make them feel good.

I saw one such pastor in Abingdon Virginia hold up an etch-a-sketch and call it a "West Virginia iPad". Not only do they ignore poverty among Whites, they openly mock Whites in poverty!

In the prophecy of Amos, Yahweh condemned the more affluent Israelites for that same thing.
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Postby Fenwick » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:32 pm

It's kind of alien from a British perspective, these American mega-churches. You see them on TV, usually on programmes made by atheists to show how decadent and backward Christians are, but I didn't know how prevalent they actually were. The idea that they're the preserve of the wealthy, doing it for prestige, is interesting.

In Britain it almost feels the other way around. Anyone with any social position is an atheist who attends recycling centres and third world fundraisers. Most of the old churches are kept going by dwindling numbers of the elderly, usually working class Catholics and Anglicans and most of them being over 60 years old.

The only churches I've seen that match American ones for sheer numbers and cross-section of society are the Jehovah's Witness meetings, most of whom are not very wealthy either, although they are more likely than the old denominations to have token nonwhites scattered amongst them.

I imagine for the working class judeos here, it's just something to belong to, like the bingo club. I can't imagine they get much spiritual fulfillment out of the empty hippy theology they all have now.
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Postby brucebohn » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:46 pm

Thank you Michael, very well put. I can only imagine what a painful
experience awaits those who continue in this denial . Among those, are
even some who profess CI.
Many years of devoted study will only scratch the surface of the
knowledge we should seek, and most have yet to take the first step.
White Christian/ Israel Americans have now become a minority
and they love to have it so. I guess that painful experience is long overdue!
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Re: The 4/15 Bible Study at the First Baptist Church of Napl

Postby MichaelAllen » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:54 pm

Staro, glad you found the post edifying. It is one of the more deep-seated irritants that I have with the system of babylon all about us... the religious poison. I could talk for days upon days about this.

I've said this before in messages I've given or perhaps in posts here, but one of my great interests is the study of human behavior. I don't consider niggers human, so their behavior does not interest me. Some asiatics seem to have some level of deliberation in their behavior, so it is of slight interest. But primarily, I'm interested in why white people seem to be so dumb. Yes, I know the media has done its work on our brethren. I know that the schools we attended beat that anti-white/pro-MLK propaganda into our brains ever so subtly for 13 years straight. I know that the religious institutions teach us to accept all people of all races (ya know... God is no respecter of persons). I know all of these things... but I also know many people, such as all of us here, who have had the veil lifted off our eyes.

While on one hand, I can say that it rests in the hands of Yahweh to reveal truth, I also know that the scripture commands us to seek out a matter. But some people cannot do it, and I alluded to this sort previously.

They seem literally unable to process information that would break apart their paradigm. And all of us here realize that when you learn something new about scripture, it has the effect of having to go back and relearn a host of adjacent concepts that might be affected through a secondary or tertiary means based on having changed your understanding of one single word!!!! Well, this involves a conceptualized thinking process.

A few years ago I was pondering this about these churchgoer types, and there was a verse of scripture that just hit me like a baseball in the head...

Hebrews 5:8-14 (I'll use Bill's CNT for this): and attaining perfection He has become Author of eternal deliverance to all those who obey Him, being addressed by Yahweh a high priest “in accordance with the order of Melchisedek.” Concerning whom the account is lengthy for us and difficult in interpretation to speak, since you have been sluggish in hearing. For even you are obliged to be teachers, because of the time. Again you have need of one to teach you from the beginning the many elements of the oracles of Yahweh; and have come having need of milk, not of solid food. For any who are partaking of milk are inexperienced of the word of righteousness: for he is an infant. But solid food is for the mature, who through habit have the senses exercised for distinguishing both good and evil.

If I were to write a commentary on this passage it would be as follows: A few years ago, I had this lightbulb moment while trying to figure out the problem that our people have in not being able to process what I was trying to witness to them. The reason for their inability to process it is found right here in this part of the passage that says (in paraphrase form) those who can understand the deeper portions of scripture have had their senses trained or exercised to be able to distinguish good and evil. THIS IS WHY YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH TO CHURCHGOERS!! Or at least why it's next to impossible. They don't see the good versus the evil in the world! They think evil is good and good is evil in many cases. This duality of thinking is a quality among our people that Yahweh endowed to us, but that the jew has learned how to manipulate by controlling the information flow into the minds of our people. They create a false good and evil: Republican or Democrat. Conservative or liberal. Capitalist or communist. Corporatist or Bureaucratist, and you can see this play out over and over again. It was Georg Frederick Hegel who first observed this in the natural order, and then he applied it to modern life and stated that there are people who control the world scene by means of a controlled conflict... i.e., a fake conflict, where both sides are funded.

Our people naturally gravitate to one side or the other in this Hegelian dialectical process because that's how they are wired. The problem is, the influences that pervert our minds have the effect of manipulating us into this con-game they are running.

When Moses gave Israel the law, he said very emphatically: "This is your wisdom. I set before you this day peace and calamity, life and death, prosperity and adversity, GOOD AND EVIL."

So, the point is our measure of good and evil CAN ONLY be Yahweh's law. Any other measure of good and evil is a counterfeit, and this is where all of the problems in our nations historically have begun. Do you now see why it is so important for the antichrists to have infiltrated our Christian institutions and propagate the lie that Yahweh's law was put away? They know full well that if we were to keep that law (as we did for many centuries in the first millennium AD), their goat rodeo would be on... and we'd be rounding up goats left and right.

Until a person undergoes some kind of experience where they begin to have cracks in their thinking to break down the illusion world that has been systematically manufactured by the jew, they will not be able to see good and evil in a way that would lead them to taking up the faith in a meaningful way.

It's interesting that this passage comes in the middle of a lengthy discussion on Melchizedek by the writer, and I had to ponder this for a long time. But I believe what I'm about to say is very significant.

Melchizedek is an office. It is a king and a priest. What we see in the Old Testament is that there was a division in these offices. On one side there was the House of David (King) which was the civil government. Before the house of David, there were the judges. On the other side there is the tribe of Levi (Aaronic priesthood) which was the religious/worship leaders, and many Levites were also involved in civil matters among the people as well, but did not always appear to necessarily carry the force of weight that the judges and kings did.

So, I got to thinking about how all this fits together. In Melchizedek, there's only one office... and it has two roles: Civil magistracy and religious leader. It's one office... meaning, there is NO SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD!!! I think that this is the backbone of our New Testament Christian Israel faith. The apostle James stated in Acts that Jesus would raise up the fallen tabernacle of David. He didn't say the Tabernacle of Moses (a strictly religious setting). The tabernacle of David was when David took the ark of the covenant (a 'religious' emblem) and placed it in the palace (a civil magistrate's quarters). The two offices meet together in Melchizedek, and it has a profound implication.

The ancient world seemed to naturally understand that the city-state and the religion were connected, and it is something that we've lost since the time of perhaps Alexander the Great, although we had glimpses of it in the early Christian era, and even a few points in time since then. My CI friend Brad has actually done some very intense study about the fact that the ancients believed that when there was no temple, there was no creation. Now that seems to us today to be a wild thought, but the word 'create' comes from the word 'covenant' in Hebrew.

Our religious belief IS our civil ethic, and vice versa. Let that sink in for a moment, and then think about all of these judeochristians who this coming Sunday are going to get together in their country club buildings and sing to Jesus... They live lives of affluence in the babylon system to which they pay deep homage (capitalism), and seem to give little thought to the sufferings of those around them of their own racial kindred who are being displaced by the aliens they would go out of their way to 'convert' (as if).

And yet, the ENTIRE scope of the Book of Hebrews as it regards the Melchizedek priesthood is to be an advocate for those who are suffering under a system of oppression. Abraham was counted righteous by Yahweh and was blessed by a Melchizedek priest when he took a militia from his own household, rode after the kings of the east, and slew them for having plundered and kidnapped some of his kin. He executed Yahweh's law to save his family.

In Hebrews 2:17-18, the writer states that Jesus underwent suffering so that he could empathize directly with the suffering of his kinsmen, and be a compassionate high priest. This, in my opinion, is the hallmark of an Israelite who has truly had a conversion experience: They feel deeply for those who have injustice committed against them. They are able to internalize the sufferings of others and it plagues them day and night - they lose sleep over it. They weep over it. They can't stop thinking about it. They want to go out and perform those great acts of vigilance that the 11th chapter of Hebrews talks about.

That's why we see men such as Mark Downey being consumed by the injustices committed against innocent white men who are locked up in the prison system. This is why we see men such as Dr. Lawrence Blanchard giving his life over to the study and work of healing people God's way, as opposed to synthesized chemicals. This is why we see CI folks trying to talk to their kinsmen about not getting their kids vaccinated. This is why we can't shut our mouths about what we know... it is because we see the carnage all around us, and recognize it for what it is: the bondage, the plundering, and the murdering of our own people. My wife and I made it a point several years ago to begin to talk to young white folks about not going into debt to finance their educations (especially law school). She even went so far as to talk to parents of kids who were graduating college and thinking about law school to tell them that it was a horrible decision, and that we wished that someone with some intellect and some experience had told us the same thing before she elected to go. There's something that happens when a person wants to prevent bad things they've experienced from happening to others. It's a mark of conversion I think.

And I could list dozens more things in which our CI brethren participate for the purpose of attempting to save their people from catastrophe on whatever level it may be.

The 11th chapter of Hebrews in my mind caps this whole thing off. It states that the men and women who were performing these great acts of obedience and vigilance were seeking after a city not made with hands - meaning God's rule and reign over His people according to the laws, commandments, statutes, and judgments, and that they were seeking a country of their own. They were building civilization one act at a time, and it is stated that they performed all of these things by faith.

This word faith is something that is as cheap in modern religious circles as chinese trinkets. But we know that we cannot please God without it (Heb 11:6), so whatever it is, it's really important. Hebrews 11:1 states: "faith is expecting an assurance, evidence of the facts not being seen" <--- I really like the way the CNT reads here. Evidence of the facts not being seen... Where I'm going to go next might seem odd, but hopefully folks can follow this line of thinking. But, thus far what do we know?

1.) Melchizedek is an office that operates as both a civil magistrate and a religious leader, and all in accordance with Yahweh's law (which is why the popes of the middle ages couldn't be Melchizedek).
2.) Those who understand what is going on in the world today can understand the deeper parts of scripture, which specifically the writer of Hebrews is discussing the function and operation of a Melchizedek priest.
3.) Jesus's suffering under an oppressive system of injustice made him able to be a compassionate and empathizing high priest for others who suffer under a similar system of injustice.
4.) Faith is expecting an assurance, evidence of the facts not being seen.

So what does all of this compute to? Well I believe it's quite simple: CONSPIRACY THEORISTS ARE THE GREATEST POTENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR CHRISTIAN IDENTITY!!

They realize that something has gone awry in the world around them, even if they are misguided on what, who, how, etc. At least they realize that there is a good and evil problem, and not just some delusional republican vs. democrat dialectic. They aren't going to get caught in any stupid rabbit holes. Having one's senses exercised to see good and evil is a process. Just like lifting weights. Nobody starts with the ability to benchpress 300 lbs. Similarly, our journey into Biblical truth might take many years of having different layers of the illusion world removed from our vision. For me, it took 6 years after my initial exposure to the JFK assassination, and almost five years of actively seeking in the conspiracy theory circles before I found CI.

Being aware of the grave injustices that take place in the world (the real ones), a person becomes sensitive to the idea of right and wrong (good and evil). He begins to place a heavier value on ethics and how things affect other people on a much larger scale.

No one can PROVE conspiracy theory any more than we can PROVE that there is a Creator. However, we CAN demonstrate that there is something taking place in our culture and among our nations that is attempting to destroy everything decent, upright, Godly, and noble - and this something is too consistent to not be self-aware. In other words, it's not an accident. It is the controlled conflict about which Hegel wrote.

If a person cannot believe in such a conscious evil force (which he cannot see because the adversaries hide their deeds and pretend to be angels of light), then it is highly doubtful that this person truly believes in a force for good, who is Yahweh our God (whom also he cannot see). Therefore, their senses cannot discern good and evil, and in reality they have no faith. The keeping of Yahweh's law by His people we understand to be the bedrock upon which the kingdom of God can be built. Conversely, we understand that the breaking of that law constitutes the degenerating of the kingdom of God, and the dissolution of our nations and dispossession of our people.

So, what I am trying to say in all of this is, these particular types of suburban churchgoers who we have been discussing cannot see good and evil, and this is why they are totally useless in their current state to the establishment of the kingdom of God. Many of them reject conspiracy theory and scoff at it because internally, they know that something would be required of them if they were to embrace such viewpoints. That 'something' is the praise of men... which they love more than the pleasing of their God.

And bruce, you are 100% on the money... these people may have to undergo some very, very, very horrific experiences - perhaps even meet violent deaths - to break their iron necks into submitting to God in a real and meaningful way.

In the meantime, I believe our efforts should be to those who are ostracized from this system and are cognizant of the fact that they are being oppressed by it. For them, we are to be priest-kings, meaning, we are to make sacrifices for them when and where we can. We are to educate and instruct them when and where we can. Advocates and defenders - that is what Yahweh has chosen us for. Many are called, and few are chosen. All of Israel is called, but only a few are chosen to operate as kings and priests under Yashua, our high priest and King after the order of Melchizedek.
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Re: The 4/15 Bible Study at the First Baptist Church of Napl

Postby brucebohn » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:50 am

" Civil rulers are God's ministers", and yes Michael, unless or until
our men truly understand the importance of being "Kings & Priests"
of our own homes, so that NO MAN may decieve, then our only hope
is divine intervention, " lest no flesh be saved"... Our form of gov't
is theocratic, and there certainly are NO political solutions now that
Jewish power and control permeates throughout Christian civilization.
Yuri Zlezkine wrote in his "The Jewish Century", quote....
" The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish way not only by
acquiring financial power but also because through him and apart from
him MONEY has become a world power and the practical Jewish
spirit has become the practical spirit of the CHRISTIAN PEOPLES..
The Jews have emancipated themselves in so far as the CHRISTIANS
have become Jews.".....
Yes, they can no longer discern good from evil and there are very
few "MEN" left... I live in an nearly exclusively white area where
financial struggle is common, yet a local church holds a yearly drive
to collect money, clothes, toys ect: to ship to central America, and
this makes me livid ! My concern and compassion for my people
is made difficult by the fact that they have in fact embraced the
"Jewish Spirit", however, we must continue our task and maintain
the faith.. "Study to show yourself approved".................
"Do you not know that with those running in a race,while all run,
but one takes the prize? In that manner you run, in order that you shall obtain."
1Cor. 9:24
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