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Socialism and Christianity

Socialism and Christianity

Postby disciplemate » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:45 am

In regards to National Socialism, I believe it is a very Godly system of Government when applied to the white/Israelite race.
I do wonder however in regards to the socialist stat-ism aspect of it all. For instance, I am aware the importance of communal welfare amongst our racial neighbours; if a family is poor and going without food despite trying, then the community chips in to help that family, etc. Now the above mentioned example is the result of free will offerings and the generosity of the wider community. National Socialism essentially teaches the same concept of looking out for ones own community and brethren, however it is enforced and enacted through taxation. Under NS, a struggling family can survive because the man of the house can go out and get a job through the availability of job demand from tax money to develop mega high ways for example. This is a good thing, however the tax payer still has to oblige to the government to support his neighbours or he will be arrested if he resisted.
In the bible, it seems to indicate a more libertarian form of government as opposed to a National Socialistic form of statism. Basically it changes free will generosity into a forced taxation, in other words it is coerced. Is this how Yahwey wants us to operate in order to make sure our race is supported and out of poverty? Or should we go back to supporting a libertarian form of government where generosity and bare minimum taxation is the rule?
Anyway just my thoughts on the subject
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Re: Socialism and Christianity

Postby Michael » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:59 am

Under a NS form of governance however the state will retain ownership of certain resources and service providing components of the economy from which it will draw income. For example, mines that contain the lime used for cement production, steel mines and factories, phosphate mines for fertilizer, rock mines used for various construction. As well the state will retain ownership of critical utilities, eg, power generation, water provision, railways, telephone systems. Ownership of these sectors of the economy will stop oligarchs from existing, as well mean that infrastructure development becomes a question of resource allocation rather than hard money raising. As well they will provide an income stream for the national body so as the allow health services and education to be freely provided.

You may argue that such an economic model will give rise to a burdensome beaurocratic class. However, such a class exists in a heartless communist model of society, not in a NS society where people are interested in the well being, and well functioning, of their society.
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Re: Socialism and Christianity

Postby EzraLB » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:06 am

Libertarianism is actually anti-Christian, and has its roots in the French Enlightenment--and is closely associated with Jewish Anarcho-Communism. It appears that "libertarianism" was first coined by the 19th century French communist, Joseph Déjacque, who was involved in the early communist movement here in America. He was also a staunch abolitionist who opposed the execution of John Brown.

If you research the libertarian movement in America, you'll find that it is up to its eyeballs in Jews, which is why libertarians don't have a problem with abortion, gay rights, or the open advocacy of the destruction of Christian civilization.

While there was "involuntary" taxation in National Socialist Germany, it would be an exaggeration to call it "coerced". Under the NS economic system, Germans worked for each other in a true community of racial welfare. They knew that whatever minimal taxes were collected were going to a righteous cause, not squandered on useless Negros or bailing out criminal Jewish financial scams such as paying interest on issuing money as debt. The benefits that the average German reaped from taxation far out-paced any amount they gave into the system, a truly great investment. That is far more consistent with Christian values.
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Re: Socialism and Christianity

Postby wmfinck » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:30 am

EzraLB is certainly correct, that Librtarianism cannot be Christian. I wrote an article a few years ago expressing that opinion: http://christogenea.org/articles/libertarianism-cannot-be-christian

While NS Germany had compulsory taxes, so did Old Kingdom Israel in the compulsory Levitical tithe. The Levites were the kingdom administrators, and therefore had to be supported in that manner.

But as ancient Israel should also have done, social welfare was based on volunteerism in NS Germany as well.
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Re: Socialism and Christianity

Postby Kentucky » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:57 am

In an ideal Christian society there is no tolerance (the dharma of Hinduism) for other religions or races. In a society that does practice tolerance, it inevitably creates an imbalance of haves and have nots (just look at India). The work ethic is lost and the spirit of giving to your own kind is subverted. In Col. 3:14, Paul is discussing the virtues of our people with love (or as the KJV puts it "charity") being above all else for the "bond of perfection" (CNT). The principle is 'non silba sed anthar' i.e. not for self but others. Our own founding fathers and Hitler understood the aforementioned and tried to inculcate in the people, that the social welfare of their society (socialism, for lack of a better word, which should never be confused with jewish socialism) was incumbent upon where their hearts were. Taxation, bibilically, should never be burdensome and more than the people can bear. To alleviate the taxation upon the indigenous White people, taxes were levied on foreign goods. It worked and was successful and a threat to the perfidy of jewish internationalism. Therefore, the jew went to war secretly to destroy the emergence of any sort of Christian governance that came close to undermining all the ism's of political science.

Bill renders Gal. 6:2 in the form of a question: "Should you bear one another's burdens, and in that manner fulfill the law of the Anointed?" Colonial America and National Socialist Germany resoundingly rallied to replace their former destructive form of governments and instituted a new government with Christ as a key factor. It was a paradigm shift from selfishness to selflessness for the betterment of their societies. That will have to be the mentality in the coming Kingdom of God. The challenge before us today in the economic morass of greed and hyper austerity is to once again respond to the poor as did Christ. A favorite soundbyte from political candidates (mostly conservative Republicans) was "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." I think that's the kind of love (agape) that Christ was talking about; not just a handout, but taking the time (time is money right?) to fulfill your duty and responsibility as an Israelite. After all, once we know our identity... then what? We become responsible according to God's will.

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Re: Socialism and Christianity

Postby disciplemate » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:42 pm

Good responses, thanks for the replies everybody!
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Re: Socialism and Christianity

Postby Staropramen » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:53 pm

disciplemate wrote:Good responses, thanks for the replies everybody!


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