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The Third Reich: euthanasia and abortion

The Third Reich: euthanasia and abortion

Postby disciplemate » Thu May 14, 2015 2:19 am

Was the Third Reich supportive of euthanasia for the mentally retarded and abortion for deformed babies?
Im really curious about this one and wonder what our attitude towards these issues should be in CI.
I know this is a really sensitive subject but feel I need to have guidance seeing as I support National Socialism.
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Re: The Third Reich: euthanasia and abortion

Postby Coenraad » Thu May 14, 2015 5:54 am

You have to place the questions on eugenics in society at that time.

Eugenics at that time and still today is a JEWISH program
How they can know how to better a man kind is hard to understand?

Look up Margaret Singer and the people who influenced her as a fine example of how Eugenics in the Weimar Republic was transplanted to the US and from there too the world.

See: http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0503
"According to the Israeli daily newspaper quoted below, before the Nazi Third Reich in Germany plotted to create a Master Race from the European gene pool, Zionists had already established a racial purification program to create the perfect Jewish bloodline."

and

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-mindcontrol-eugenics.html
“The Jews, ancient and modern,” says Dr. Stanton Coit, “have always understood the science of eugenics, and have governed themselves in accordance with it; hence the preservation of the Jewish race.”

and

http://galton.org/essays/1900-1911/galton-1910-jewish-chronicle-eugenics.pdfee
Eugenics and the Jew. - Sir Francis Galton

They always are the best at accusing themselves!

Just like today they fully subverted medical science and where the ones that had trained the doctors on eugenics already - that eugenic mindset had been carried forward into the Third Reich, BUT like always they are now the once pointing fingers at National Socialist so that no one will look at them.

Hope this helps.
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Re: The Third Reich: euthanasia and abortion

Postby disciplemate » Thu May 14, 2015 6:03 am

Thanks for the reply, but I was mainly wondering if it is morally right or not to play eugenics on our Israelite people?
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Re: The Third Reich: euthanasia and abortion

Postby bahr » Thu May 14, 2015 6:54 am

The only true eugenics is the Law of Yahweh. Trying to fix the consequences of evil as they appear while ignoring the causes is not true eugenics; it's like applying patches to an old air chamber, again and again. Instead of killing a baby who is malformed because his father is a drunkard, we should suppress the causes of drunkenness. But of course this is a far more difficult task, implying a complete reconsideration of our way of life, which means a collective sens of responsibility, which means a lot of time, effort, good examples and teaching. There is no easy solution.

Also, note that the National-Socialist system also implemented laws aimed at prohibiting certain bad individuals to breed, which was a good start.
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Re: The Third Reich: euthanasia and abortion

Postby disciplemate » Thu May 14, 2015 7:44 am

Well ofcourse bahr, the national socialist eugenics program was something that was good for our race. We need the best of our people to have lots of babies.
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Re: The Third Reich: euthanasia and abortion

Postby Joe » Thu May 14, 2015 7:58 am

If God be for us, who can be against us. Remember that Israel prevailed many times against overwhelming odds.

It is not about a maximum number babies (like those who don't have the husband), we should teach our children to be God fearing. And I don't think it can be reduced to a 'spiritual aspect' ...it is the only truth that matters. You will not prevail on numbers, you will not prevail by 'reaching the masses', through politics, technology or any other system.

Our deliverance is in Christ alone.

I am making my position clear because many CI followers have fallen into WN thinking and elsewhere because they could not put their faith in the right place. In these troubled times it is more important to put our faith in the right place, and not compromise in any way.
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Re: The Third Reich: euthanasia and abortion

Postby disciplemate » Thu May 14, 2015 8:07 am

Good call Joe. It is true that our God will fight valiantly for us in our seeming destruction. I know however that it requires the Israelites to be obedient and not live in sin.
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Re: The Third Reich: euthanasia and abortion

Postby Joe » Thu May 14, 2015 8:10 am

Well that is the age-old story, our people being punished for their idolatry and returning back to Him. He promises He will not make a full-end of us.

And that is good enough for me, His promise. We should turn back to God.
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Re: The Third Reich: euthanasia and abortion

Postby Coenraad » Thu May 14, 2015 7:25 pm

Those that seem to think eugenics is right - please show where in the bible it says so. There are places where people are put to death as punishment but that is not eugenics. Christ did not shun the weak minded or sick!

Bahr thanks you are right! "Instead of killing a baby who is malformed because his father is a drunkard, we should suppress the causes of drunkenness." That is YAHWEH's way! If we live according to HIS law eugenics will not be required!

Joe is correct - "Our deliverance is in Christ alone."

The problem is people want to worship the REICH! If people think we are going to breed ourselves out of this - you are mistaken - ONLY YAHWEH can/will save us! Sparta applied eugenics - and where are they now? Without YAHWEH we are a lost cause - numbers or even quality will not save us!

The Third Reich - that has been one of the few times in history where a people tried to do right. But those that worship the Reich and will not admit that they where people that did make mistakes and did do wrong at times are not honest.
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