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The significance of "Gott mit Uns"

The significance of "Gott mit Uns"

Postby Gideon300 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:47 pm

The motto "Gott mit Uns" (God with us) was taken from the Bible verse in the first chapter of Matthew and used throughout Prussian and German military history before the Third Reich adopted it and adding the national ensign of an eagle clutching a Hakenkreuz, issued it to all Wehrmacht troops beginning in 1936 -

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Although almost all the references to its meaning found in books and on the net in particular claim it was simply meant to state that "God's on our side," or that He is "with us" ideologically or in spirit on the battlefield, as with so many things published and broadcast related to the Christianity of the Third Reich, that is not what is meant by the motto.

"Gott mit Uns" literally and exclusively represents Christ, as per the Bible verse -


"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."
- Matthew 1:23

And the verse as it appears in the 1912 edition of the Luther Bible in German -

"Siehe, eine Jungfrau wird schwanger sein und einen Sohn gebären, und sie werden seinen Namen Immanuel heißen", das ist verdolmetscht: Gott mit uns." - Matthäus 1:23

It's an example of easily accepted sophistry used by many to forgo the specific Biblical source of Gott mit Uns and wrongly relate that it means "God is on our side," as opposed to what its true significance was and why it was adapted by the Wehrmacht for use on millions of enlisted men's belt buckles; and not just because of tradition, as they were under no compulsion to carry on the tradition. If, as the enemies of Christ would have people believe, the Reich was anti-Christian, they certainly wouldn't have made use of the motto. It's likely that most who claim it was nothing more than a pious proclamation by the Reich of God being on their side are just repeating what they've read and heard, without having given it any thought. There are also however some who do know its significance but don't want it to become known that the soldiers of the Wehrmacht carried with them into combat, an homage to the name of Christ along with the symbol of the Third Reich.
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Re: The significance of "Gott mit Uns"

Postby Lang » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:15 am

Just to make a point - While the germans were using the motto "Gott mit Uns" and the swastika, which is a symbol containing the letters of Yahweh's name, the allied forces were using pentagrams, both americans and soviets.
"Give a hammer to a white, and he will build civilization;
Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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Re: The significance of "Gott mit Uns"

Postby bahr » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:57 am

the allied forces were using pentagrams, both americans and soviets.


And the Chinese:
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Re: The significance of "Gott mit Uns"

Postby Lang » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:50 am

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"Give a hammer to a white, and he will build civilization;
Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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Re: The significance of "Gott mit Uns"

Postby Gaius » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:45 am

Lang wrote:Just to make a point - While the germans were using the motto "Gott mit Uns" and the swastika, which is a symbol containing the letters of Yahweh's name, the allied forces were using pentagrams, both americans and soviets.


Yes indeed
As well as the Germans' open use of the Cross in the Luftwaffe, for example --

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(Me-109 in desert camoflage)

Thanks to Gideon for this on "Gott mit uns", which I personally had not made the connection to that specific Bible verse. I'm fortunate to own one of those buckles, too.
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
(Romans 8 v 31)
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