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How did you come to believe in CI?

Postby Heather » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:01 am

I don't know where to put this, but my Mom was asking how other people came to believe, and I honestly don't know. It seems common sense to me, but our extended families have been praying for our souls for abandoning God's beloved chosenites and won't listen to a word we say. They got mad when we said we were israel and not the jews. I'm dumbfounded. I thought they'd be happy! And my husband believes me, but even though he's all german all the way back (I'm English irish with a german great grandmother), I'm much more angry and vigilant about dispelling the lies about them than him! I know God opens the eyes, but I wanted to know what worked to change people.
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Re: How did you come to believe in CI?

Postby Kentucky » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:56 am

I was pretty young and a Vietnam veteran. I couldn't understand why that no-win war cost us over 58,000 American lives, so I started reading and that led me to WWII, which led me to historical revisionism regarding the so called Holocaust. I realized immediately upon hearing of Christian Identity that jews could not be God's chosen people. I became a believer immediately and have been building my faith in Jesus Christ ever since.

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Re: How did you come to believe in CI?

Postby Nayto » Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:14 am

I remember having a conversation with my brother where I said to him something along the lines of, "What if there is something i incredibly wrong with the world that we can't see?" He replied, "It wouldn't matter so long as we have Christ." To which I replied, "What if there is more to it than that?"

Soon after I was inspired to ask God what was indeed wrong with the world. Almost immediately I was lead along the journey to CI. I started off with revisionism and realised the evil of jews. As soon as I heard about CI I immediately accepted it as the truth. I remember coming across Mark's website and not sleeping that night because I just wanted to read Everything.

That was around July 2009 and I have been on the journey ever since. As time goes by the truth only becomes more and more real.
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Re: How did you come to believe in CI?

Postby Gaius » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:07 am

Being born into Christianity gave me a belief in God which never went away because it really is God's promised presence in His people. Even after abandoning the superstitions of RCism, and through four solid years of marxism at a British university He was still there. Even after living/working in Asia and enquiries into Buddhism & Hinduism, Christ was still with me. " ... Thou shalt call his name JESUS, for he shall save ** his people ** from their sins". Someone gave me a Bible around 1996 and this eventually led me to the Reformed position of "predestination", an important wisdom from my Father. But they still had no idea who were so blessed and promoted the marxist/anarchist idea that it could be anyone from anywhere ...

While in, but not satisfied with, this theology, I also began a study of the first half of the murderous Twentieth Century, especially WW2. The more I read, the more horrific became the gross crimes against our people, especially the Germans, by the international financial entity or the Beast if you will. This also meant looking at the so-called holocaust, a tissue of almost laughable lies, a story that has changed so many times ...

Around this time I came across Bill Finck and Mark Downey on the internet. I am fortunate in liking in-depth study, and their materials plus Clifton Emahiser and some others led me to C.I. in under two years. C.I. is the "absolute God's Truth".

I'm sorry to hear about your relatives, Heather. They are in the position of fighting against YHWH God and in favour of the Beast -- this situation is quite a serious one, imho. They need to pray and ask Christ, the Light of the World, for enlightenment and help in this and He will be ready to give it as the Gospel of James says ... I hope they will do this, just to consider that what they have been taught just might possibly be wrong ...
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Re: How did you come to believe in CI?

Postby Joe » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:17 am

I went to a 'catholic' school but I could never understand the Bible, apart from a few verses; a disconnected view. When I was a young man after high-school, I prayed to God, that I find Him. Everyone around me did not care or did not believe in God.

Because I didn't understand the Bible I spent years after that researching conspiracy theories, different religions like buddhism, 'spirituality' etc. But nothing was good enough.

I got to a point where I thought something like "well I guess this is it, I will never know God", maybe I will know when I die. A couple weeks later I found Christogenea.

I now knew about jews and the holohoax, and was listening to a podcast with a (now known) mamzer and probable mamzer and confirmed half-wit Charles Giuliani. They started attacking Bill Finck. Because they attacked him, I looked on them poorly and looked at Christogenea.

When I first heard the CI message about white people being the true Israel of the Bible I was very sure I had heard it before, but I could not remember where, like it was something I already knew, something that was surely true. I believed it immediately, perhaps that is why I was sure I had heard it before, because I felt a strong conviction that it was true. CI unlocked the Bible for me, I knew that the Bible was true ...after all the garbage I had been through.

When I was reading the forums one day, before I was a member, I found the 'exterminationist' doctrine. This shattered a lot of walls for me, as I accepted it. I laughed at a comment Nayto made about bastards and it was done. I was really starting to take on a CI world view, a sinful blind man who could now see.
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Re: How did you come to believe in CI?

Postby bahr » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:16 am

The thing that stroke me most when I was young was the impossibility to get a clear and unequivocal version of History. There are so many "histories", but all of them are inconsistents and contradictories in their significance!

Then one day I watched some videos of Robert Faurisson about the "holycost" and the impossibility of such a thing. The next question was: but who are really these mysterious "jews", anyway? I then read numerous books until I learned the story about the return of the Israelites from Babylon to Judea, the perversion of Scriptures and the concoction of the Talmud. Further research led me to a web site where they talked about White people being Israel! Immediately, I knew it was true. It was as if I knew it already inside me, unconsciously. After some more readings, I was led to Christogenea, and voila!

The more you study from the perspective of CI2SL, the more all things become clear, coherent, logical and simple, and the more the glory of Yahweh-Christ is revealed!
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Re: How did you come to believe in CI?

Postby Staropramen » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:17 am

I was raised a Catholic by two people that didn’t take it very seriously. I eventually came to believe that God didn’t exist and one day in the church yard I renounced God. Since I wasn’t struck dead I figured I was right. I convinced my parents to stop forcing me to go to religious instructions. A short while later my parents convinced me to try it again because a new nun was using rock music to teach the bible. I went to meet her. I liked her and decided to start going again. She was using Jesus Christ Superstar to teach us about Christ. My parents heard a line from one of the songs that went “Jesus Christ, superstar, who the hell do you think you are"? and they went flippo. Against my wishes I was taken out of the class.

A few years went by and I became sexually active at 16. Over the next 16 years I was serially monogamous with numerous women of various races. Sex was my religion. Whenever I would change partners I would look for someone totally different. I thought of it like different flavors of candy or ice-cream. During this period I became very liberal minded. I was deeply influenced by the Greenwich Village art scene. Oddly enough though it was one downtown performance artist’s deranged perversions of scripture that got me back attending “church”. Her name is Diamanda Galas. Here is a video of her that I filmed during this period. This is not my upload. I only made a few copies of the original and someone who got a copy posted it. [the master tape has since been destroyed];



I started attending occasional services at the Cathedral of St. John The Divine where Ms. Galas performed her “Plague Mass” that you see in the video. I eventually became involved with a black woman and made a child with her. During the pregnancy I began having psychological problems. In effect I became temporarily insane. I was besieged with thoughts of killing the child and this continued on and off for several years after the child was born. I ended up in the hospital several times. I also developed a bizarre skin condition that affected me initially all over my body. It is now my belief that at that time my Spirit was in rebellion against my mind and my body for committing the worst sin that a child of God can commit: fornication. I now fully understand that it was perfectly normal for the Spirit in me to want to destroy the evil beast that I helped create.

Around 1995 two people started witnessing Christ to me from a judeo perspective. Elizabeth [now my wife] and a friend named John. I began attending a Pentecostal church in Freeport New York called Word of Life. This was John’s church. They had great music and the preacher was very charismatic. I would occasionally visit Elizabeth’s church in Manhattan and eventually I realized that the Baptist’s were more serious about bible study then the Pentecostals who are more concerned with demons than Christ.

In 1996 I went through the “born-again” ritual. I moved out of the apartment that I shared with the black woman and got my own place. The negress then started a campaign to destroy my life with the family court. I lost the court battle for custody. I had to give up my new apartment in order to save money. I lived in my van until October of 1998. During this period living in my van Elizabeth and I decided to get married. We decided that we would leave the United States and resettle in the Czech Republic. Part of this plan included taking the child with us. During my research about the potential ramifications of such a plan I learned about the Hague Convention on International Child Abduction to which the Czech Republic was a signee. Praise Yahweh I abandoned that idea! The plan then switched to getting settled abroad first and worrying about the child later.

We spent five years living in the Czech Republic and eventually returned to New York. It is evident to me now that five years living in a racially homogenous society had a positive effect on my spirit, mind and soul. During this period I was troubled by one thing: why did God allow the negress to win custody? Why would He allow a crazy godless woman to destroy a child’s life instead of placing him with one of His servants? I believed that God had made a mistake. However, understanding that God making a mistake is contrary to the Word I made the choice to serve Him anyway and put my trust in a belief that one day after I die He will give me a satisfactory answer. Little did I know that I would get that answer sooner then I expected! It is now plainly obvious to me that if I had gotten custody this child would have become a stumbling block to my learning the racial truths of Christian Identity!

Upon returning to the United States I started to see things differently. My feelings about race were changing. I started seeing the child again, now a young teenager. He had become a full-blown nigger and I despised being around him. I hated travelling to the ghetto to see him. But I was still brainwashed by judeochristianity. One day while visiting him I came across a public access TV show by the jewish task force. This is a splinter group of the original jewish defence league. The host talked about Christians and jews working together against the non-whites that don’t belong in the US. I liked the sound of this and I became involved with this group doing video work for them. My younger brother had become a “White Nationalist” and our already strained relationship was further stressed by my new “friends”. I was told by the jtf leaders that I must never preach Christ to jews in the organization. I never violated my word. However I did continue to preach to jews outside of jtf. One kike caught wind of this and I was told to stop but I refused. The leader of the group attempted to show me in the bible why doing this is prohibited. My counter-argument pissed him off, I was ejected from the organization and banned from their forum. They then spammed their own forum with gay child pornography and blamed it on me. Upon hearing about this my brother gave me a copy of Martin Luther’s “On The Jews and Their Lies”. A new chapter was about to begin.

I Googled Ku Klux Klan one day and found Pastor Robb’s website. I started watching their “This is the Klan, This is the Truth” program. From there I found Stormfront. I started studying Christian Identity materials from Bertrand Comparet and Wesley Swift. I visited Pastor Robb a couple of times. I also got to know Pastor Downey at the CI forum at Stormfront. I took on the job of moderator of the SF CI forum and I sometimes consulted with Pastor Downey on how best to run the ship. I started listening to aka Eli James on Talkshoe. It was on these programs that I started to hear about a very mean CI dictator named Finck ;) . I foolishly made a surface reading of the “Finck vs. Eli” situation and posted something on the SF CI forum in defense of aka Eli James. I was then chastised by Pastor Downey for my comments. I then made a closer study of Mr. Finck’s work and joined this forum.
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Re: How did you come to believe in CI?

Postby Joe » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:44 am

Staropramen said
The leader of the group attempted to show me in the bible why doing this is prohibited. My counter-argument pissed him off, I was ejected from the organization and banned from their forum.


Do you remember which Bible verse it used to assert this prohibition? (I can think of some, but I doubt it said "don't put your pearls before swine"). Do you remember your counter-argument?

very mean CI dictator named Finck ;)

He hates niggers, gooks and kikes. God bless him.
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Re: How did you come to believe in CI?

Postby Staropramen » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:21 am

Joe wrote:Staropramen said
The leader of the group attempted to show me in the bible why doing this is prohibited. My counter-argument pissed him off, I was ejected from the organization and banned from their forum.


Do you remember which Bible verse it used to assert this prohibition? (I can think of some, but I doubt it said "don't put your pearls before swine"). Do you remember your counter-argument?



I don't recall how the conversation went. Suffice it to say that my argument was steeped in judeochristian rhetoric and the kike's was talmudic tomfoolery. Two idiots trading blows basically. With CI we must wipe the slate clean and come to Christ as children.
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Re: How did you come to believe in CI?

Postby Heather » Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:49 pm

It really seems like it is a God thing, you just start asking the right questions out of nowhere.
Thanks for sharing your stories, these really solidify this view for me, and I feel less guilty for maybe not presenting it right.
Gaius wrote:I'm sorry to hear about your relatives, Heather. They are in the position of fighting against YHWH God and in favour of the Beast -- this situation is quite a serious one, imho. They need to pray and ask Christ, the Light of the World, for enlightenment and help in this and He will be ready to give it as the Gospel of James says ... I hope they will do this, just to consider that what they have been taught just might possibly be wrong ...

Thanks, I told them, if you don't think you can be deceived, I assure you that you are!

Staropramen wrote:With CI we must wipe the slate clean and come to Christ as children.

This really is the heart of it. I don't know how people can think they know the whole truth and there's nothing else to learn, and the world is going to hell for no apparent reason, I guess as time goes on we just become evil? That makes no sense, but they make no sense. And that creature in that video...wow! I can't believe it was at a catholic church.
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