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Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

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Re: Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

Postby Filidh » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:09 am

there are some posters in the comments sections who intentionally agree with nationalsocialism while simultaneously playing divide and conquer and claiming they're trying to improve the discussion by getting pagans fired up and angry, and getting christians fired up and angry (identity christianity is the only christianity, all others are either catholicism or protestantism, or some other), to attempt to stop any winning over of pagans by christian truth by having the scenario be a battle of back and forth dialectic that never goes anywhere but their desired solution of chaos, using standard kikish debating tactics.

i restate for emphasis, all comments sections are known to be havens for jidf personell, stormfront being exhibit A, so vigilance is always needed.
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Re: Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

Postby Joe » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:23 am

^I guess I am somewhat naive to how people do things like that. I will keep that in mind.
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Re: Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

Postby Staropramen » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:01 am

Once again, great show guys!
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Re: Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

Postby Joe » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:58 am

It is great that more well-read brothers are coming to speak with Bill, the community is growing and being nourished. Sven considered CI fairly and now he contributes many great points.

He is very logical, also discussing points of history and politics. Top bloke, I am really glad that he takes the time to make these shows. He gives much of himself for his kin. God bless him.

I didn't know those children in England had been victimized for so long, and the liberals did nothing. It was hard to listen to the start of the show and not feel incensed and heart-broken. What have our people become.
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Re: Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

Postby Staropramen » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:09 am

I'm going to make CDs of the most recent program explaining the basics of CI and forward them to someone who wants to challenge my/our views from a judeochristian perspective. Right on time guys!
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Re: Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

Postby mchawe » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:59 am

He mentioned the 'Jesus was a jew' argument and the 'jewish book' argument.


I would like to see a good argument that Jesus was not a Jew.
Recently, I was waiting for my luggage at Birmingham Airport (England). It didn't arrive! Standing there waiting with me after all the other passengers had collected theirs, was an Anglican Parson. He was a genuine white man, pink face, dog collar and the whole nine yards.
I turned to him and said, "Was Jesus Christ a Jew"
"Yes!" he replied.
"Then why did he say what he said in John Ch. 8 v. 44 ?"
"What did he say?"
"you mean you don't know?" and I then quoted him the verse which we all know by heart.
I went on," If he were a Jew, he would have to say something like, 'your father who is the same as my father who is very bad so I have divorced him'. It would be ridiculous! How could he be a Jew?"
At that point his luggage arrived, he picked it up, smiled at me and left. He seemed to me a really nice man and a true Christian at heart, just misguided.
Hopefully he will think about it and wonder if he is teaching truthfully to his flock.
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Re: Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

Postby Kentucky » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:39 pm

mchawe wrote:
He mentioned the 'Jesus was a jew' argument and the 'jewish book' argument.


I would like to see a good argument that Jesus was not a Jew.

Yours was a good one. No, it was excellent!!! We never know what argument is going to pop the bubble. I've recently been picking apart a Messianic Jew magazine that was on a table at my dentist's office. Evidently he is not an I-dentist.

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Re: Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

Postby Acrimonious » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:46 pm

mchawe wrote:
He mentioned the 'Jesus was a jew' argument and the 'jewish book' argument.


I would like to see a good argument that Jesus was not a Jew.
Recently, I was waiting for my luggage at Birmingham Airport (England). It didn't arrive! Standing there waiting with me after all the other passengers had collected theirs, was an Anglican Parson. He was a genuine white man, pink face, dog collar and the whole nine yards.
I turned to him and said, "Was Jesus Christ a Jew"
"Yes!" he replied.
"Then why did he say what he said in John Ch. 8 v. 44 ?"
"What did he say?"
"you mean you don't know?" and I then quoted him the verse which we all know by heart.
I went on," If he were a Jew, he would have to say something like, 'your father who is the same as my father who is very bad so I have divorced him'. It would be ridiculous! How could he be a Jew?"
At that point his luggage arrived, he picked it up, smiled at me and left. He seemed to me a really nice man and a true Christian at heart, just misguided.
Hopefully he will think about it and wonder if he is teaching truthfully to his flock.


It would be nice to create an apologetics subforum for questions like these. The common questions that we're asked can have answers that are focused and firmly shut down opposition, as that is what Scripture is famous for doing to the incorrect. I understand a lot of answers do require a lot of research on the part of the people we're correcting, but if we develop arguments from a position of authority, we'll be well-prepared for rebuking the idiotic judaized positions without needing to pull out concordances that we may not have close at hand.
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Re: Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

Postby Joe » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:52 pm

I was trying to think of a concise answer, but it really does take a few steps to really understand, if they are patient.

One I thought of was talking about Matthew 15:24.
If He came only for the Israelites than who are they, could they really be the jews who hate Him, and if you are not an Israelite you can't be a Christian. There is no point in being a Christian unless you know yourself to be an Israelite.

They will try to bring-up some other verse where all people are accepted. So then you have to ask if Christ was incorrect somehow. If you have time you can explain 'all' and 'gentile' (heathen or Nation).
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Re: Christogenea Europe: great show Bill & Sven!

Postby Acrimonious » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:14 am

'All' is a frequent target for universalists, and it always boils down to context, which the milkdrinking apostates are infamous for ignoring. It's no surprise that the word 'all' is probably the most commonly-used strawman for any counterarguments to our positions. I would very much like to dissect these sorts of non-arguments for the benefit of CI everywhere; immediate identification of the apostate tricks and subsequent shutdowns would certainly help people without a background in debate. We are told to use Scripture for teaching, correcting, rebuking, and training in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16), and I really enjoy that aspect of interpersonal relationships.
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