Joe wrote:26 Vol. 6, No. 2 THE OCCIDENTAL QUARTERLY (I posted this back in this thread)
When a man asks a woman out, he is only implying that he is willing to
consider her as a mate: He might conceivably offer her a ring if she pleases
him enough on further acquaintance. Most dates do not result in marriage
proposals. There is no reason why they should. Rather than being blamed for
not committing, such men should be commended for sexual self-control and
the exercise of caution in mate-seeking. Many men have been only too happy
to marry the first girl who is nice to them.
And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? A promiscuous culture would probably make it more difficult to go out on a polite casual date. Many womyn think they are in a bar, at midnight, 24/7. Tamar knew what to expect if she played the harlot, I don't think they have a righteous cause like she did. They are harlots yet expect to be treated not so.
Under Roman law it was not considered a serious crime to rape a prostitute:
A man could not violate the modesty of a woman who had none to violate. In
later European law it was made criminal to rape even prostitutes. But this does
not mean that the concept of rape had been divorced from that of feminine
modesty; it was rather that law came to recognize and protect the possibility
of repentance for immodesty.
The idea that a woman can go to bed with 20-30+ men while in high school and college, and then scream rape at some guy because she gets drunk, goes to bed with him, wakes up, and regrets it, is as absurd as it is obscene.
The same basic theory that you cannot violate the modesty of a woman who has no modesty was applied in cases of defamation... It is impossible to libel/slander/defame somebody whose reputation is so horrible that it cannot be damaged.
There is a man in Missouri who immediately comes to mind, I would say it is not possible to defame him because his reputation is that of a man who molested a child and was then able to get a great deal to go to the mental asylum instead of continuing in the trial, facing a probable conviction, and going to prison.
If somebody has the reputation of such a character, it is pretty much impossible to cause any damage to their reputation and thus they cannot suffer damages from defamation.
Back to your example about harlots demanding to be treated like righteous women. On some level men have to realize that they are validating such women by giving them attention and accepting them. I don't validate tramps and I don't give them attention. Aside from the fact that I do not drink alcohol, this is one of the reasons I don't go out on Fridays and Saturdays [and opt to study or converse with one or two close friends]. I am tired of being subjected to offers of random sex from cheap/loose/easy/tramp women.
Men who validate such women by giving them attention and going with them, even if only to use them for a single night or a few days, are fanning the flames of the promiscuity culture and are stamping approval on the women for their bad behavior. It is up to men to categorically reject such women and let them grow old alone and die alone.
