I need a bath....

[Staropramen]

Well, it looks like my wife has finally found a Pastor that is up to the challenge of debating me. Should be interesting.

Great! Keep us posted

Will do.

[Staropramen]

God is good. I want to refresh myself on some points before my meeting with this Pastor. One point was the issue of rejecting Esther and Song of Solomon as scripture. Last night before I started working I flipped through the 300+ sermons that I have on my ipod of Wesley Swift and picked one at random. The very first thing he spoke about in the sermon was the rejection of Esther and SOS!

[NicoChristian]

Esther is of course garbage and even the origin of the name Esther is not Israelite but Persian or Babylonian. I was doing a crossword and the clue was, queen before Esther, it showed how little I know about Esther because I had to look it up, the queen was Vashti. Bertrand Comparet said that the Song of Solomon may not be Scripture, but that it does no harm where it is. I personally would leave it because one way or another it was written by Solomon, a godly man until his later years. Esther though, needs to go, the Apocryphal Esther was written simply to include the name of God. Imagine that, having to write an extension on a Biblical book because the original didn't have the name of God mentioned once.

[wmfinck]

I know that Swift rejected the Song of Solomon as Scripture. And Comparet may have leaned that way also. But I think they were wrong. In fact, I am certain they were wrong.

Why??? Because they took it literally, and did not understand that it was a poetic allegory, and one of the earliest instances in literature of a dialog being constructed as a literary device in order to teach a greater lesson. The Greeks later parodied the method.

The purpose of the dialog in the Song of Solomon is to illustrate Yahweh's love for Israel his bride! Yep, that is right, it really doesn''t have a damned thing to do with Solomon and his wife. In fact, just check out the part where his "wife" is intent upon running around the streets of the city at night seeking her husband (Song 3:1-4). Does this really make sense of a king and his queen? Would noble women roam the streets of a city at night, at that time, and especially a queen? It does make sense of the children of Israel and their waywardness in seeking Yahweh their God.

Now maybe if you re-read the Song with this understanding, you may see it in this light. Furthermore, the physical descriptions of Solomon and his bride are quiet important to our cause. Niggers and arabs do not have skin like brass, or ivory. Or eyes like pools of water.

[Fenwick]

Fenton was of the opinion that the book of Job was an allegory too, in the vein of A Pilgrim's Progress.

[Staropramen]

I spoke to this Pastor today and we agreed to meet tomorrow. I e-mailed him the link to Christogenea so that he could familiarize himself with my theological perspective. I also explained briefly the reason for the meeting and that I made an agreement with my wife that I would meet with any White, non-jewish person that she could find that she believes can prove me wrong. I just received an e-mail back. This fellow is not White, he's a Puerto Rican. So I cancelled the meeting pending the possibility that his ancestry is wholly White and simply lived there. I doubt that but I suppose it's possible.

[wmfinck]

Wow, how many White non-Jewish people who are still Christians could be left in NYC? And out of those, how many ever even read the Bible? LOL, you are an endangered species in that part of the country!

[Staropramen]

Wow, how many White non-Jewish people who are still Christians could be left in NYC? And out of those, how many ever even read the Bible? LOL, you are an endangered species in that part of the country!

I know, I know. It's not for a lack of trying that I haven't moved away. Problem is most people that I know that live in places I'd rather live are unemployed.

After this "pastor" identified himself as a Puerto Rican I responded with the following;

"Puerto Rico is quite of mish-mash of racial streams. Alot of Puerto Ricans have Caucasian blood and some appear to be White but are in fact mixed. I'm assuming that since you identify yourself as Puerto Rican you are a mixed race person rather than being from a family of Caucasians that maintained their European bloodlines while living in that country. My belief is that when Yahweh's people race mix the offspring become a broken cistern into which nothing of God can be poured including and especially the spirits of His children. So it would be a waste of my time to discuss the bible with such a person. With a brother or sister there is the potential in such a meeting to possibly awaken something in them so that they might see the truth and begin the process of being regenerated so that they can step up and into the role of being a functional child of God serving Him and His people. The NT says nothing about being born "again" implying the second birth is after the physical birth. The Greek says born "from above". Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus that God's children are born twice: first in the heavens and then on earth and everyone else is born once on earth only. Violations of the divine law of kind after kind cannot be attributed to Yahweh as His creation. They are broken cisterns.

I am about to leave for work. If you are of mixed race background I see no need for a meeting as I am a busy man. If you are of Adamic, European stock and your ancestors simply lived in Puerto Rico than I have no problem meeting to discuss the bible. Let's cancel tomorrow's meeting for now until we get this sorted. I don't want to waste your time either. We can always meet next Friday or another Friday if necessary."

I don't know how my wife mistook this guy as White. She was told he was Italian;

http://www.brooklynforchrist.com/blog.html

He responded with a simple "got your message". My wife texted him apologising for wasting his time. I thought it was interesting that he responded writing that what I wrote didn't reflect badly on her and that he would pray for her. Of course I have no use for prayers from non-whites but according to his theology shouldn't I be a lost sinner in need of prayer? Sounds to me like the same old judeo hypocrisy. I'll bet if I was a negro with an alcohol or porn problem the response would have been prayers for both of us!

[Joe]

He doesn't look 'Italian' at all. Apparently 'Italians' can be turk or mexican (even syrian according to dana antiochus who is probably a mongrel), I have seen many people use this tactic. True Italians are ruddy, not grey, they also have the sentimentality that goes with blushing, they are sensitive and sincere.

Anyways it seems your wife is scared to believe the Truth, she must know it in her heart but is grasping at straws, she must have known you would have no problem debating this guy or that this guy was not white. So she must just be scared of the Truth, I think it would be a good day for you when she finally breaks and admits that you are right and submits to your insight. Something like a good old movie where the woman breaks, in tears, and falls to the man "oh, Staro, you were right, boo hoo". lol

I was looking forward to the debate ...at-least I got to see how a non-white would react to the truth, he can't just drop the Bible ...he has to 'pity' you and pretend that you are lost. Not only that but he doesn't have a spirit with which to discern the Truth, he must just make shallow and programmed responses, instinctual ...like an animal (after reviewing his blog post, I noticed that his sermons follow popular commentaries, as well as feel-good judeo dogmas). Thus they cannot be reasoned with nor ever comprehend their own fate, they are of this world, dead in a way. I often wonder about the sentience of animals, but these creatures are void.

[Staropramen]

My wife knows that I will debate any White person on the validity of Covenant Theology. It's my responsibility in the face of her accusations of heretic that I make myself available to any White person who wants open discussion. You are right, she knows this is the Truth but she hasn't the faith to embrace it. How can she not know it at this point? Her church leaders have all failed to even attempt to do their jobs. One of her friends who left her church and now attends the church of this Puerto Rican said, regarding the White "pastor" at my wife's church "he won't meet your husband because he feels intimidated, he doesn't know the bible that well". How can my wife possibly believe that the best thing for me is to go submit myself to some flakey, cowardly fruitcake pastor?

Does he look White to you? He's southern Italian as far as I know;

http://www.trinitytab.com/index.html

Check out the clown in the third picture down on the right. He claimed to be Italian when I first met him. He wears a jew yarmalook and a few years ago he started claiming jew ancestry! One of the ways this bunch has my wife duped is they keep saying that this Jim Lauria wants to speak with me knowing full well I wouldn't entertain a jew. My wife keeps saying "oh, he's not really a jew, he's just says that". My response to that is if someone tells me they are a jew and they wear a yarmalook in church I'll believe them.