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Re: Alert: Conspiracy Theory

Postby Lang » Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:22 pm

Really? Which Epic of Gilgamesh was this? Please supply a citation.


The epic more or less says (I had to translate): "Look at below, at the Earth, what it seems? Look at the sea, what it seems? And the Earth looked like porridge and the sea a compact mass".

I know it doesn't proves nothing, but its very curious.

I heard that the Egyptians, south american and apefrican tribes had accounts of meeting the nomo/aliens etc. Supposedly Egyptians had depictions of UFO as well as planes and helicopters, and UFOs are mentioned in ancient 'indian' texts (I have not read the text for myself). There is actually a wikipedia article on 'ancient astronauts' and there is a TV show I have never seen called 'ancient aliens'; but I am more interested in philosophy than history. I do not have time/ability to debunk it all for myself...


Maybe white people had an early great civilization... this makes me remember of Atlantis... But I don't think we are that old in Earth. Creation of Adam must have been like 8 or 10 thousand years ago.
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Re: Alert: Conspiracy Theory

Postby Joe » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:15 am

Some of those early civilisations were probably the work of the fallen angels (like the ones that did human sacrifice).

Anyways what of your theory, have you changed it? do you still think the fallen angels were reptilian?
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Re: Alert: Conspiracy Theory

Postby Lang » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:10 am

Joe wrote:Anyways what of your theory, have you changed it? do you still think the fallen angels were reptilian?


Nothing can take off my head that we are dealing with reptilians, lol. In the practice it doesn't changes a thing though. Reptilians, demons or virus, they're jews anyway, and we're in war against them.
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Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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Re: Alert: Conspiracy Theory

Postby wmfinck » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:29 am

Lang wrote:The epic more or less says (I had to translate): "Look at below, at the Earth, what it seems? Look at the sea, what it seems? And the Earth looked like porridge and the sea a compact mass".

I know it doesn't proves nothing, but its very curious.


The Epic of Gilgamesh survives in various incomplete forms in fragments of tablets discovered in Sumerian, Akkadian and neo-Babylonian sources. There are also lesser Gilgamesh stories, and other related literature. If you cannot make a proper citation then we cannot check the context of the statement.

Lang wrote:Nothing can take off my head that we are dealing with reptilians, lol. In the practice it doesn't changes a thing though. Reptilians, demons or virus, they're jews anyway, and we're in war against them.


The "reptilian" idea is one which purposely creates a distraction from the observable and consistent genetic differences among races of men, i.e. jews, negros, asians, arabs as compared to Germans, Irishmen, Spaniards. We do not need to adopt jewish science fiction fantasies which they themselves create as smokescreens to hide behind.
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Re: Alert: Conspiracy Theory

Postby Joe » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:42 am

Why would you get to CI (it took me 8 years) and then turn-around and go back to something like david ickes lies (the source of the theory isn't important)?

Nothing can take off my head that we are dealing with reptilians


Not even the Bible?
I don't understand why it has to be reptilians...

Do you think gooks, kikes, arabs and niggers have reptilian blood, while the Aryan race does not?
Lastly, do you think the reptilians are 'extra-terrestrial' in origin?
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Re: Alert: Conspiracy Theory

Postby Lang » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:23 am

Why would you get to CI (it took me 8 years) and then turn-around and go back to something like david ickes lies (the source of the theory isn't important)?


I'm not turning around. I still have faith in exactly the same things I had before. The only thing I said here is that possibly the devil may be reptilians or another kind of ET's, thats all. In practice it doesn't changes a thing. The jews are still the enemy and the devil, if you think the devil are fallen angels in the sense of the catholic church, ET's, or just our adversaries in earth will lead to the same end, as long as you keep focused in the Ci truth and the basic premisses.

Do you think gooks, kikes, arabs and niggers have reptilian blood, while the Aryan race does not?
Lastly, do you think the reptilians are 'extra-terrestrial' in origin?


I think the jew has something that other bastards don't. I never got deep into studies about niggers being hybrids of fallen angels as I see some people saying. I always thought it was too fantastic. My guess is that niggers are a more advanced kind of ape. Arabs are not a pure race. In my opinion the jew has something very evil and at the same time very smart in him, and that may be ET genetics, reptilian being my guess. I think the fallen angels theory fits perfectly to explain the jew, all I'm saying is that maybe these angels are ET's. No, Adamic men are created in the image of God - no reptile or fallen angel DNA.

If you cannot make a proper citation then we cannot check the context of the statement.


It was quoted in a video but I can't find any citations on google.

The "reptilian" idea is one which purposely creates a distraction from the observable and consistent genetic differences among races of men, i.e. jews, negros, asians, arabs as compared to Germans, Irishmen, Spaniards. We do not need to adopt jewish science fiction fantasies which they themselves create as smokescreens to hide behind.


I realized that when I was giving a look at these theories. They are very marxist and change the focus from the racial reality to a supposed alien enemy. Thats why I believe these conspiracy theorists are agents of desinformation. The purpose of the thread was not to change focus at all, just to comment about hypotesis, largely speculative, about the nature of the jew/devil.
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Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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Re: Alert: Conspiracy Theory

Postby bahr » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:20 am

if you think the devil are fallen angels in the sense of the catholic church


You know, the Catholic Church is a giant supermarket. You can find anything you want in there, even some truth, like in the Talmud and other pagan sources.

I never got deep into studies about niggers being hybrids of fallen angels as I see some people saying. I always thought it was too fantastic.


Fallen angels are too fantastic, but ET's are not?! Where do you see any reference to ET's in Scriptures? And if fallen angels, or more precisely heavenly creatures, mixing themselves with animals, is a too fantastic story, then what about the miracles in Scriptures? Aren't they too fantastic too? Come on, walking on water, turning water into wine, multiplying loaves of bread, resurrecting the dead! And an ass talking? And the giants? And the flood? And the Creation?

Labelling something "too fantastic to be true" shouldn't be our way of thinking. Some fantastic stories are false, some are true. The real problem is that we are so ignorant and confused, and also too immersed in modern paradigms, to be able to discriminate between most of these things.
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Re: Alert: Conspiracy Theory

Postby Joe » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:27 am

It just seems to me that you are putting other nonsensical information before the Holy Bible, Bahr's logic (about Noah) was much more flawless than your own. I think the notion of ETs is contradicted by Scripture, I also asked you to explain why God would create bastards on other planets if he doesn't create them here.

I guess I have to ask; did God create the reptilians, did He create ETs? (implying that they are not bastards). They cannot be angels as the heavenly hosts are non-biological.

You have basically made a story in your head, that is contradicted by the Bible, and decided to incorporate that into your world-view ...just because you like how the idea answers things for you, because you cannot accept the DSCI view. If you assume that the jews are from reptilians, then many parts of the Bible would have to be re-written.

Mark Downey is not dual-seedline, but he justifies his keen understanding with Scripture. So just because you can't accept dual-seedline does not mean you have to abandon Scripture.

edit: After bahr's latest post I must add that it is a testament to our faith that we believe in His miracles and promises and conform to His word.
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Re: Alert: Conspiracy Theory

Postby Lang » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:22 am

Fallen angels are too fantastic, but ET's are not?! Where do you see any reference to ET's in Scriptures? And if fallen angels, or more precisely heavenly creatures, mixing themselves with animals, is a too fantastic story, then what about the miracles in Scriptures? Aren't they too fantastic too? Come on, walking on water, turning water into wine, multiplying loaves of bread, resurrecting the dead! And an ass talking? And the giants? And the flood? And the Creation?


I believe in the miracles and the works of Jesus Christ. Saying once again, this thread was to question the nature of the devil/giants/fallen angels/jews, not to contradict Scriptures. That is why I said alert: conspiracy theory and to don't take it too serious. Some fantastic things are more rational than others. Jesus was God Himself in a body, so performing all those miracles is not so fantastic, He can do whatever He wants. Its very silly to discuss these things, we are going in the same way of some CI folks arguing about what the devil is or is not. Is the devil really that important? You are taking too serious a thread that wasn't that serious.

I guess I have to ask; did God create the reptilians, did He create ETs? (implying that they are not bastards). They cannot be angels as the heavenly hosts are non-biological.


No, in this conspiracy theory reptilians would be the rebel angels. The non-biological character of the angels is a good point, but they could have lost their original aspect once they "fell". Bible says nothing about living beings outside our world. But I can never say that life outside the planet doesnt exists. I don't know the whole universe, and I don't know if all the knowledge of the universe is in the Bible. For example, in the way Genesis is written, it makes me understand that God didn't want to explain in details how it was created. Maybe because it wasnt important, maybe because He didn't want us to know. Following this logic, its totally possible that a lot of knowledge is not written in the Bible because God don't want us to know all things.

Mark Downey is not dual-seedline, but he justifies his keen understanding with Scripture. So just because you can't accept dual-seedline does not mean you have to abandon Scripture.


You know, I learnt most of CI things with Mark, and I think his approach is more rational. That is very personal though, it differs from person to person. One of the main things that attracted me to CI is its rational approach. At that time I was so tired of churchianity emotional services and how they would seek supernatural events in the church as a purpose of life... I always had some problems with their doctrine due to its non-sense character, like Noah putting all the kinds of animals of the world inside a ship, that is kids story and I couldn't believe how adults would take that serious. Then CI offered a whole new point of view of the Scriptures, and it was the only thing preventing me from turning agnostic or maybe pagan.

So, when giving a look at the ET thing I related it to the dual seed line theory, and wondered if we could have possibly misunderstood the devil. Even though ET's are very fantastic too, we have some evidence of non-human interference in the world. These interference could be explained by a white power doctrine, but it would go against CI. In the end, it was just an attempt of a more rational approach regarding the fallen angels. But as I said before, satan doesn't deserves all this attention.

If I knew you would take it so serious, and not like a conspiracy theory, I wouldn't have started this thread. We need to focus in positive aspects of Christianity instead of arguing over the devil.
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Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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Re: Alert: Conspiracy Theory

Postby wmfinck » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:46 am

Lang wrote:If I knew you would take it so serious, and not like a conspiracy theory, I wouldn't have started this thread. We need to focus in positive aspects of Christianity instead of arguing over the devil.


So you started this thread to joke about the devil?

Lang wrote:So, when giving a look at the ET thing I related it to the dual seed line theory, and wondered if we could have possibly misunderstood the devil.


You said earlier in the same post that you were attracted to CI for its lack of nonsense. Then you want to interject nonsensical boogieman dogma into CI. I don't get it.

Two-Seedline is not theory, it is truth. If Two-Seedline were not truth, then there would only be one human race, and it would not matter who you married.

Even if Mark would not call it that, he still believes that our adversaries in the world are genetic, that it is US versus THEM. Wheat and tares, sheep and goats, sons and bastards. [Although today often our brethren can act like our adversaries, they are not our enemy, they are only whores for our enemy.]

The people who soil what some of us call "Two-Seedline" are the ones who would insist that Satan is in heaven, that our adversaries are from outer space, and then they turn around and insist upon squeezing niggers and every other foul beast into the Kingdom of God.

You should listen to the recent Two-Seedline series at Christogenea. Part 18 is next Saturday, Yahweh willing.
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