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Humans were rebellious angels?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:26 am
by soaren
Humans were (all or part of) the rebellious angels? I read about this idea on the CI"ish" page linked below. It is one of those terribly organized backwater Christian sites, so to save time, on the page search for:
Do you know what Satan did in the first earth age?

to cut to the part of the page that gets to the meat of it.
This is the site:
http://americanwisdomseries.com/9080.html

The premise is this: Earth is not a testing ground for "new eternity recruits", but an elimination round after we screwed up royally betraying God, and He, in His mercy, decided to give us another chance. We were born into innocence - with no recollection of what we had done, and are given a chance to redeem ourselves. (And if you believe in the "elimination round" idea, do the "losers" come back for the millenium to be "reeducated" or do you believe in ahniliation?)

I am comfortable with Christian doctrine, and I am starting to get a grip on replacing my old Churchianity Beliefs with CI doctrine, but I'm not quite there yet, would appreciate some other opinions.

- Soaren

Re: Humans were rebellious angels?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:37 am
by Nayto
Hi Soaren. This is quite far from the truth. Unfortunately we cannot present you with "options". You must research and decide for yourself. I would recommend studying Bill's pragmatic Genesis and Christreich. They are commentaries on Genesis and the Revelation respectively.

http://christreich.christogenea.org/

For pragmatic Genesis you will have to sift through the Talkshoe channel... http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/ta ... 332&cmd=tc

There is also a series of Romans which privides a good theological foundation on the same Talkshoe channel.

Re: Humans were rebellious angels?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:20 pm
by wmfinck
Nayto wrote:Hi Soaren. This is quite far from the truth. Unfortunately we cannot present you with "options". You must research and decide for yourself. I would recommend studying Bill's pragmatic Genesis and Christreich. They are commentaries on Genesis and the Revelation respectively.

http://christreich.christogenea.org/

For pragmatic Genesis you will have to sift through the Talkshoe channel... http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/ta ... 332&cmd=tc

There is also a series of Romans which privides a good theological foundation on the same Talkshoe channel.


Wow, for Pragmatic Genesis you can just go here: http://christogenea.org/podcasts/two-seedline

My Christogenea design must be a failure, so many people cannot find the material. :(

Re: Humans were rebellious angels?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:23 pm
by Nayto
wmfinck wrote:Wow, for Pragmatic Genesis you can just go here: http://christogenea.org/podcasts/two-seedline

My Christogenea design must be a failure, so many people cannot find the material. :(


My apologies :D

Re: Humans were rebellious angels?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:17 pm
by Staropramen

Re: Humans were rebellious angels?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:41 am
by HeiligeSchriftLeser
Great thread.

Just before my...Blessed discovery back in the summer of Christian Identity, I was all over the shop !!

So many false leads & rabbit holes & avenues to explore.

The pre-existence, pre-destination thing was up next on my list... "ethnic" guy called zen garcia was doing much like William, but he was checking....all kindsa pagan stuff {atlantis, emerald tablets of thoth,etc.} to see what tallied with Scripture/Enoch....as to our origins, {kinda thing!} I gave everythin' {well written} fair crack of the whip,put together a mental picture mosaic of some kind....

Even with my 10Gbs of podcasts downloaded I still gotta get around to this.

Just curious on the Book of Enoch say "azazel" is more the "author of sins" than the satan/lucifer combi we mostly hear about. Gonna be interesting figuring it out...with William's guidence !.