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Final Dividing Line on Race?

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Re: Final Dividing Line on Race?

Postby Kentucky » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:54 pm

SwordBrethren wrote:If we really wanted to boil it down, everything of value in Europe can ultimately be attributed to Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, and Celtic people.

Much in the same way for America, which has also succumbed to multicultural diversity. Demographics move very slowly through the prism of history. A couple hundred years from now, our descendants will be asking, "what the hell were they thinking!"

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Re: Final Dividing Line on Race?

Postby Joe » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:54 am

Acrimonious said
The superficiality of these mongrels can fool many, but it can't fool the Spirit. Therefore, be mindful of your dealings with others. If the Word and the Spirit are directing you elsewhere, obey.


So then how do you obey faithfully. Without pride. Discernment without pride.

If I humble myself, with sincere faith then surely God will move against my enemies.

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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Re: Final Dividing Line on Race?

Postby Nayto » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:25 am

Acrimonious wrote:I maintain that that is folly, since Scripture declares that even demons believe (James 2:19).


Christ said that many would come to Him proclaiming good works, but He will deny them. Judas is testament to mongrels being in even the closest circles. Scripture gives one instance of Judas' mongrel behaviour (John 12:4-6):

"Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's [son], which should betray him, Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein."

His love of money and complete disregard for his brethren are clearly evident.

Instances I speak of are unwitting mongrels, one of which betrayed Christ. How much worse are those who act purposefully? One could argue that Christ's betrayal was a matter of necessity, but this doesn't detract from the causality of it all. If there are mongrels in your midst, they will be thorns in your eyes and a scourge in your side.

There are matters of conscience in scripture, like the eating of profane meats. What harm does it actually do to eat a profane meat? None. Matters of race of not dependent on conscience. Whether we are aware or not, whether it is in our conscience or not, the damage is done.

Acrimonious wrote:Confirmation bias is, unfortunately, a damaging factor in all of this. We're a small remnant, and we desire to meet and converse with our kin that share in our faith, and that desire taints the way we measure others. Mongrels can be very crafty or very stupid, and the crafty ones will often seem to have a solid ground in Christian faith. The superficiality of these mongrels can fool many, but it can't fool the Spirit. Therefore, be mindful of your dealings with others. If the Word and the Spirit are directing you elsewhere, obey.


Not only confirmation bias, but personal bias as well. Schisms seem to form far easier over personal matters than race. Once someone's emotions have been riles they are quick to strike. Once someone's suspicions on race have been riled, they are slow and hesitant. I've seen this all too many times in my personal experience. Just recently some friends have attended the feast of trumpets with a family who is suspected of harboring mongrels.

The matter of race is so grave, so dire, that we cannot take chances. I feel like our awareness of this as Christians is greater than ever in the history of our race. We need to work from strength to strength. We need to meditate on it, pray on it and take it very seriously.

Joe wrote:So then how do you obey faithfully. Without pride. Discernment without pride.


By not letting personal squabbles form part of our judgement? I agree.
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Re: Final Dividing Line on Race?

Postby Nayto » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:05 am

Lang, I doubt dancing is a good indication. Dancing ability is a factor of inherent ability for muscle coordination and practice. Mongrels seem to have dancing more ingrained in their culture, but it is a primitive dancing. So they have practice on their side.

Compare that to figure skating, which is a form of Aryan "dancing". There is nothing in mongrel history that could compare.

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Lang wrote:
7- Mongrels are for most part generally corrupt. You can see that in everydays life. If he has an opportunity of cheating, or take advantage of someone to his benefit, he will do that. For some reason, this is also true to eastern europeans.


I fundamentally disagree with this.

American culture is highly individualist and I know many WNs and even some CI people who support taking advantage of any/all government benefits programs that can be obtained, as part of an overall strategy to drain the system and cause it collapse under its own weight.


I think you're referring to a different kind of "corrupt" than what Lang is referring to.

Lang is referring to people taking advantage of and cheating each other, whereas you are referring to taking advantage of and cheating the beast system. The former is truly corrupt whereas the latter is not corrupt at all within the context of Scripture.

I personally would take advantage of whatever I can in the beast system, but I would not cheat or defraud my CI kindred (or any White kindred if I can help it).

Therefore to say mongrels are inherently corrupt is definitely true.

SwordBrethren wrote: Eastern Europeans were brutally oppressed under a ruthless system of communism that was imposed on them. This had a major impact on their culture.

What is your issue with Eastern Europeans? You seem to be taking every possible opportunity to jab at them...


To say that their culture took damage from Communist oppression -- While true -- does not necessarily exonerate them of being mongrels or make their "racial status" beyond reproach. Each country would have to be measured in its own merit.

For example, I would say Bulgaria's proximity to Turkey makes it very vulnerable to mongrelisation. Poland on the other hand is further from the Mongrel Curtain, but there is a strong history of jews there. Of course there are plenty Polish pure Whites, but it is also safe to say there are many Polish mongrels (All Polish people I met in ZA are mongrels).

On the whole, it is safe to say that there is more mongrelisation in Eastern European countries. Enough that it could affect general perception on their behaviour as a people. On the other hand, it is not fair to say that all or most Eastern Europeans are mongrels.

As a sort of anecdote, I have known a fair share of Croatians and Serbians. I find those people generally quite disagreeable in spirit and would say many were mongrels. However, the ones who looked White generally had a better disposition. When I look at the group as a whole, based on my experience, I could easily say they are generally bad people and are generally mongrels.
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Re: Final Dividing Line on Race?

Postby Kentucky » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:40 am

The point is we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. We don't write off a nation if it has been mongrelized, but a Remnant remains. The enemy scatters (usually by our own lack of vigilance), but God gathers (usually when we repent and turn back to Him). The Christian model is nationalism i.e. "When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds [boundaries or national borders] of the people according to the number of the children of Israel" Deut. 32:8. The jewish model is internationalism/communism i.e. nations without borders. The enemy seeks to miscegenate the world to such an extent that 'kind after kind' no longer exists, that there is no longer any peculiar racial identity for anyone and therefore that much more easily controlled. We should not acquiesce to forsaking any geography on earth unless it is absolutely void of White people. "For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof" I Cor. 10:26.

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Re: Final Dividing Line on Race?

Postby Joe » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:05 am

On contemplating 'discernment without pride'.
The talmud is 'based' on the Bible. It is how bastards understand Scripture, they make it into a lie. It is part of their broken nature. They tend to twist it into their idolatrous 'thou can be gods' ideology ...their real 'religion'. Feeding themselves without fear. The only god they know is their own lusts which they make into idols.

The jews, in describing themselves as the people of the Bible, will generally just use it to make themselves into gods. They do not fear God. They can't. They are empty vessels with an insatiable hunger.

To understand Scripture I think you have to have the fear of God, the spirit.
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Re: Final Dividing Line on Race?

Postby SwordBrethren » Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:03 am

Joe wrote:On contemplating 'discernment without pride'.
The talmud is 'based' on the Bible. It is how bastards understand Scripture, they make it into a lie. It is part of their broken nature. They tend to twist it into their idolatrous 'thou can be gods' ideology ...their real 'religion'. Feeding themselves without fear. The only god they know is their own lusts which they make into idols.

The jews, in describing themselves as the people of the Bible, will generally just use it to make themselves into gods. They do not fear God. They can't. They are empty vessels with an insatiable hunger.

To understand Scripture I think you have to have the fear of God, the spirit.




Are we not told in the Psalms, "ye are gods, children of the most high" which could mean we will be changed into some sort of demi-gods at a later time, after the judgment?
Revelation 18:
Und ich hörte eine andere Stimme vom Himmel, die sprach: Gehet aus von ihr, mein Volk, daß ihr nicht teilhaftig werdet ihrer Sünden, auf daß ihr nicht empfanget etwas von ihren Plagen!

Denn ihre Sünden reichen bis in den Himmel, und Gott denkt an ihren Frevel.


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Re: Final Dividing Line on Race?

Postby Joe » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:13 am

Without God we are nothing. The way of the serpent, the way of idolatry is to become gods apart from God. They do not fear God because they are wholly fleshly. In my opinion. I am the vine, ye are the branches.

One drop and you are in bondage to the flesh, you will never see Him nor fear Him. One drop and you will never be a man.
I was thinking how fitting the pejorative 'beast' is ...because, like an animal, they are wholly fleshly. More-so, a bastards flesh is corrupt. Where as nature will also be restored, the bastards won't be.
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Re: Final Dividing Line on Race?

Postby bahr » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:04 am

Are we not told in the Psalms, "ye are gods, children of the most high" which could mean we will be changed into some sort of demi-gods at a later time, after the judgment?


We are the bride. We will forever be the spouse of Christ, sitting at His right, to reign with Him in perfect justice and obedience and love. In this life, we first must grow up and learn the price of ignorance and rebellion against our Master, which is death.

Pagans/heathens see a god as someone/something able to show his/its power through destruction only. Their gods don't know love, only crushing power. Everything perceived as weak, poor, small, humble, must be despised, eliminated and destroyed. These gods are the gods of the prouds. Yahweh is exactly the opposite, as He proves it again and again through all Scriptures. We must especially love our brother which is poor in spirit, in order to elevate him in knowledge and thus liberating him from slavery.
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Re: Final Dividing Line on Race?

Postby Michael » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:56 am

My final dividing line on someone's ethnicity is their, and perhaps their siblings, physical traits. The matter of physical traits has been discussed here in the forum before, so no need to go into great detail on it I guess. My position is that whilst a person can sometimes have some traits that are not what one would call ideal Aryan, an Aryan must not have more than one or two non-aryan traits. Aryans can have wide ears and "Roman" noses, but be pure white skinned, blue eyed, blond hair, and have a straight forehead and eyebrows.

Looking at siblings is important. For example, one may with difficulty call Catherine Middleton/Goldsmith an Aryan, but one look at her sister and you can confirm that Kate's not an Aryan.

Further, in my opinion, there is no such thing as an off-white olive skinned Aryan.

If a bipod combines a number of non-Aryan traits, such as larger than normal lips, dark hair, darker olive skin, mongoloid type eye-brows, wider shaped head, then that thing is a mamzer, period. And this goes for any thing that claims to be CI as well, no matter how it waxes lyrical. However, as we have found out over the years in CI, usually, and eventually, the mamzers also out themselves with their words or deeds as well.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Matthew 7 16-19 KJV
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