Final Dividing Line on Race?

[SwordBrethren]

What do you use as the final deciding factor in determining whether somebody is White or not?

Acceptance of CI?

Understanding of racial purity?



How do you determine it if the person is unable to determine their ancestry back more than 3-4 generations?

[SwordBrethren]

There's a general agreement/understanding that tares are not given the understanding of CI, yes? Are we all on the same page there?

[Kentucky]

Anybody can say they're Christian Identity and even claim to be a pastor. But, there is no litmus test per se that differentiates wheat from tares other than "ye shall know them by their fruits." This is why it sometimes takes time to discern the spirit of someone; whether or not they are racially pure, because if they are, they have the New Covenant i.e. the Law is written in their heart and mind. For example, chronic and habitual liars have no moral compunction to discipline their behavior or to repent of what they're doing. We have identified such characters in our community, such as Joe November/Eli James, Jeromy Visser and Martin Lindstedt. They're easy to spot once the cat is out of the bag; it becomes self evident to one and all that they are reprobate and therefore not White. When there is no genealogy, then the next best thing is how Christ-like a person is, because Christ said, "My sheep hear My voice." Some mongrels may look White, but if they do not hear Christ, then we should reconsider who we are giving holy writ to. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs." The tare may understand CI enough to talk the talk, but quite another thing to walk the walk. "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." Although for quite different motives.

Mark

[Staropramen]

For example, chronic and habitual liars have no moral compunction to discipline their behavior or to repent of what they're doing. We have identified such characters in our community, such as Joe November/Eli James, Jeromy Visser and Martin Lindstedt. They're easy to spot once the cat is out of the bag; it becomes self evident to one and all that they are reprobate and therefore not White.

You mean if one professes to be a Identity Christian after spending some time exposed to the Truth and is proved to be a habitual liar then that is more or less proof that they are a tare? Because I wouldn't say being a habitual liar in general is proof of being a tare. Habitual lying is a big problem with Czech people which I observed more times than I care to remember while living there. But it is still a predominately White nation. 40 years of hardcore jewish communism followed by the "freedom" of jewish usurious capitalism will do that to our people. There is a Czech saying from commie days that is still repeated today. "If you don't steal from your employer you are stealing from your family". Any White person raised in a judaised society will think and act like a jew until they are presented with and convicted by the truth. I do not believe that an Israelite can steal from a jew. Nothing that the jew possesses is truly his property.

I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims
as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This
will bring home to them the fact that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are
living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.

Luther - On the Jews and their Lies

So I understand in theory that previously quoted Czech saying but sooner or later that thieving mentality will permeate all areas of life as it has in the Czech Republic where these people regularly deal with one another in deceitful ways. Trust only exists amongst one's immediate family. As I learned while living there you never, ever confront someone who has wronged you. This act is considered a wrong in and of itself regardless of the behavior of the offender you just confronted. The acceptable action is to stab the other person in the back secretly when an opportune time presents itself. This is considered normal and everyone wears a public smile and exchanges hollow pleasantries freely. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to throw these people under a bus. I love these people and I have a heart for them. I would gladly go there again and minister to them if Yahweh saw fit to send me. I feel that these are my people because through all the jew-inflicted layers of brainwashing I can see it. I spent plenty of time with Czech folks 70 years of age and older who weren't psychologically warped by communism the way the younger generations were.

[Joe]

Heb 12:7 You endure discipline; as sons Yahweh engages with you. For what is a son whom a father does not discipline?
Heb 12:8 But if you are without discipline, of which you all have become partakers, then you are bastards, and not sons.

God is terrible when He is against us.
I think our people recognize they are in bondage to sin, they have a repentant mind but they do not pray. And we cannot deliver ourselves. I think my kin do not pray because the catholic church makes them feel like they are not worthy.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

The other 'races' think themselves more than worthy, they think themselves gods. Our people honour these gods with white guilt rather than turning to God and rending their hearts.

[Kentucky]

You mean if one professes to be a Identity Christian after spending some time exposed to the Truth and is proved to be a habitual liar then that is more or less proof that they are a tare? Because I wouldn't say being a habitual liar in general is proof of being a tare. Habitual lying is a big problem with Czech people which I observed more times than I care to remember while living there. But it is still a predominately White nation. 40 years of hardcore jewish communism followed by the "freedom" of jewish usurious capitalism will do that to our people. There is a Czech saying from commie days that is still repeated today. "If you don't steal from your employer you are stealing from your family". Any White person raised in a judaised society will think and act like a jew until they are presented with and convicted by the truth.

The difference between a mongrel and someone who is White and mongrelly minded is slight. But, I was thinking in terms of John 8:44 of whom the parentage mandates a propensity to lie and kill; a genetic trait if you will. For all intents and purposes, a judaized society, condemns its citizens. The wannabe tare, who is White, may be saved in the end, but it isn't the same thing as inheriting the Kingdom. The habitual/chronic liar therefore should be considered as dangerous as any tare within the context of a White community. I've heard it said so many times by good intentioned people that we have to be like the jews in order to win. No, that's not what my Bible instructs me to do. Our example is Christ and He was not a habitual liar. "The Truth shall make you free." I don't think there's any wiggle room. It's a very slippery slope when one starts telling little white lies; they always turn into avalanches. Thus, it should be even more revealing when our adversaries practice the witchcraft of false accusation with malice.

Mark

[Lang]

a genetic trait if you will

As you know, Brazil has a huge mongrel population. And we also have that typical degenerate, perverted and corrupt jewish culture deep rooted in the population and the collective mind. But when I was a kid, I remember there were two types of kids: the majority, that seemed like they had been born with that attitude, for they lived according to it so naturally, so skillfully, that it seemed like a skill genetically transmitted. While there were those few who had extreme difficulty to get used to it, and in most time got bullied/suffered in the hands of the mongrels for several years untill they learnt how to be like that, due to social pressure and personal defense in a way. Todas as adults its hard to spot what is natural and what was learnt, but as kids it was clear. And those few who had trouble initially emulating it, happened to be the ones with german/italian heritage, and a few portuguese. Now that I have racial knowledge, they are all white, or at least they are mostly white, in some cases.

EDIT: As a personal observation from my childhood experiences, poles and ukranians (they were not uncommon where I lived first) tended to be mean/tricky/shameless, not that I have something against them, my childhood best friend was a pole who kept setting me up, lol, but its an interesting fact).

[Filidh]

bryan, you determine it by having faith that the creator of existence would not have put you in this position, where you are with the knowledge and potential you have, if you were a tare.

he wouldn't have if you were a tare because tares are not his children. if you were a tare, you would be striving to deceive and not to go forth in honesty and genuine truthseeking. you wouldn't be trying to improve and correct yourself and draw near to allfather christ jesus of hosts in the first place, amongst your kindred who are able to receive you in that neardrawing.

therefore, you are his son.

and for the record, many endless thousands of our ancestors had olive skin, ravenblack hair, and brown eyes. the olive skin probably stems from an aryan genetic adaption resultant from ancestral exposure to extreme heat and sunlight. in the song of solomon, solomon himself clearly has very darktanned skin because the sun has known him.

anyone who says otherwise is probably jidf.

[Staropramen]

You mean if one professes to be a Identity Christian after spending some time exposed to the Truth and is proved to be a habitual liar then that is more or less proof that they are a tare? Because I wouldn't say being a habitual liar in general is proof of being a tare. Habitual lying is a big problem with Czech people which I observed more times than I care to remember while living there. But it is still a predominately White nation. 40 years of hardcore jewish communism followed by the "freedom" of jewish usurious capitalism will do that to our people. There is a Czech saying from commie days that is still repeated today. "If you don't steal from your employer you are stealing from your family". Any White person raised in a judaised society will think and act like a jew until they are presented with and convicted by the truth.

The difference between a mongrel and someone who is White and mongrelly minded is slight. But, I was thinking in terms of John 8:44 of whom the parentage mandates a propensity to lie and kill; a genetic trait if you will. For all intents and purposes, a judaized society, condemns its citizens. The wannabe tare, who is White, may be saved in the end, but it isn't the same thing as inheriting the Kingdom. The habitual/chronic liar therefore should be considered as dangerous as any tare within the context of a White community. I've heard it said so many times by good intentioned people that we have to be like the jews in order to win. No, that's not what my Bible instructs me to do. Our example is Christ and He was not a habitual liar. "The Truth shall make you free." I don't think there's any wiggle room. It's a very slippery slope when one starts telling little white lies; they always turn into avalanches. Thus, it should be even more revealing when our adversaries practice the witchcraft of false accusation with malice.

Mark

Agreed.

[Joe]

Filidh said

if you were a tare, you would be striving to deceive and not to go forth in honesty and genuine truthseeking. you wouldn't be trying to improve and correct yourself and draw near to allfather christ jesus of hosts in the first place, amongst your kindred who are able to receive you in that neardrawing.

Exactly, I think that is a result of Yahweh's discipline. The striving and humility. Striving to do better in His eyes. I also think it is an either/or scenario ...a bastard can't kind-of get close then fail. They just wander around aimlessly guided wholly by their own lust. We may fall short, but we know it.

@Lang
That is so true what you say about children. Niglets, gooklets and the rest ...if you have one in a classroom they are a problem. If they are the majority everyone would end up behaving like wiggers. I knew some Eastern Europeans too, they were like that.