Eli James Admits Lying About Debate

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Here it is July again, and Joe November has been caught in yet another Jew Lie.

I know his name is Joe November, but I am going to call the clown "Eli James" for the purpose of this message.

This Jacob Israel fellow really seems to be hounding Eli James on Facebook, and when Eli gets caught up in an argument his lies readily become evident.

When Eli James and I had split, he did a program with Greg Howard on his "Voice of Christian Israel" Talkshoe page on January 23rd, 2011. In that program, Eli with much bravado had announced to Greg that "we will have a debate in three weeks". I was listening: http://forum.christogenea.org/_files/vci-2011-01-23.html.


(The "debate in three weeks" statement is towards the end of the recording, so if you want to download it and skip ahead use the following link: http://data.christogenea.org/resources/VCI-2011-01-23-Original.mp3)

I did not understand why he wanted or needed three weeks, and he did know that I was listening. I waited for the email. But a debate arrangement never came. I only received invectives instead, just as often as CCs or forwards from other parties.

Over the years when answering emails which had both Eli and I in the CC line and hitting "Reply All", I long ago noticed that Eli James has had my christogenea.org email addresses blocked. I do not remember when I first noticed that, but it has been awhile. (Like he could really block a guy that owns 60 domains and unlimited email addresses, but that is okay, I do not bother.)

I have been hearing from various people for three-and-a-half years that Eli James claims I refuse to debate him, that I am a coward, etc. etc. (Yeah, right...)

Well, I NEVER received ONE offer of a debate from Eli James. Not once. He has been bragging about my alleged refusal to debate him for three-and-a-half years, and he has been lying about it every step of the way.

The following dialog is from Eli James' own Facebook page. I received it in an email, and I was able to verify that the thread is indeed on his page. In this argument which Eli had with this Jacob Israel fellow, Eli basically admits never having actually sent me a request to debate! (There is a link to the entire original screenshot below.)

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Here is the link to the entire page as an image:
http://forum.christogenea.org/_files/eli-screenshot-facebook-2014-07-01-23-00-18.png

So if I lock myself in a closet and challenge someone to a dual, if nobody hears me can I claim that the person refused? That is the equivalent of Eli's challenging me on Dan Kersey's Truth or Consequences program. Eli James is a liar.

Back in 2011, I had a few arguments with Dan Kersey on Facebook. He is an arrogant man who shoots off his mouth a lot, and knows absolutely nothing about either the Bible or history. Every time he opens his mouth he proves it. I posted some of those arguments to this forum. I would not give him the time of day, and only argued with him a couple of times on Facebook for sport. I told him that I would never go on his program, because he was not worth my time.

He does a program once a week with Eli James, where Dan reads a verse, Eli makes a joke and laughs nervously, and Dan reads another verse. At least that was what I heard, as I only listened once for ten minutes back in 2010, and it was pathetic. Dan is an Eli James lapdog, and runs to Eli for anything he does not know about the Bible, believing every word his god tells him.

Notice in the dialog above that Eli says "We challenged him to a debate on Truth or Consequences. He refused." Wow, "We" is a lie, an obvious admission that HE never challenged me to anything, and Eli cannot challenge me to a debate on a program I would never listen to!

Eli James is a liar.

If I ever see him, I just might slap him silly.

At this point, if I ever get a debate request from Eli James I will only post it as proof that he is a liar. If I ever get a request from a third party to debate Eli James, well, I will have to disappoint them also.

Here are the only conditions under which I will debate:

1) Eli James posts a notice up on the top of the front page of both of his websites (anglo-saxonisrael.org and killthebank.net) admitting that he has lied for three-and-a-half years about my refusal to debate him. The notice must remain there for six months before we debate, and must be the most conspicuous object on the page when people arrive at the site.

2) During that same six-month period Eli admits at the beginning of every one of his programs that he has been lying about my refusal to debate him. The admission must be made honestly and without pretense.

3) I will not debate a fictional entity. I will only debate someone who is introduced and addressed under their REAL LEGAL NAME. So I will debate Joseph November, but I will not debate a government-licensed fiction (which is what "Eli James" is).

When Eli James repents of his lying and presents himself honestly, only then will I give him the privilege of my mopping the floor up with him, because the guy cannot hold a candle to my ass in a discussion of Bible or ancient history.

Nearly 200 podcasts are posted at Christogenea which prove it:
http://archive.christogenea.org/

[Staropramen]

If I ever see him, I just might slap him silly.

He deserves it.

[Kentucky]

Eli could have easily resolved the debate issue by simply announcing far and wide a time and venue for a debate. Cowards seem to have this thing about debates when they know that they've sabotaged the possibility before it happens. The debate, in their minds, is a fantasy and propaganda tool to bash an opponent who has already resoundingly destroyed their ideas. And because of their own inability to argue their position, will go on year after year engaging in the politics of personal destruction. That alone should tell the casual observer that these crypto universalists don't play with a full deck. The new debate is then an erosion of Christian Identity perpetrated by those who have no desire to debate real issues. Eli James, Geronimo Visser & Company have ulterior motives which aren't White and certainly not Christian.

Mark

[NicoChristian]

Is he still clinging onto the unsinkable Titanic while it sinks to the bottom of the ocean? Just give up, he's lost years ago. To be fair, a Jew would never admit the Holohoax was just that despite the complete lack of evidence.

[Nayto]

Hitler spells out jewish debating tactics quite clearly in Mein Kampf. They are not actually interested in debate at all, but like Mark alluded to, the word itself is simply a tool to use.

Even if the debate were to happen and jewseph was subsequently destroyed, the result would be meaningless in his eyes and he'd still carry on as if he'd won or it never took place at all.

I suppose we need to expect this kind of behaviour from our jewish enemies.

[Joe]

^"jewseph"
Hey, let's not make this a thing. lol

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^"jewseph"
Hey, let's not make this a thing. lol

LOL, it does not apply to Christians!

[mchawe]

I very much enjoy listening to the podcasts even months or years after they were made, and I usually listen to one while I take my bath in the evening. I feel that not only is my body getting cleansed, but also my spirit!
Recently I creased myself laughing listening to "Answering the Shills, Part 4" by Bill and Sword Brethren. The Jews try to infiltrate everything, and this one was caught red handed so to speak. In fact on that podcast, if he ever has the cojones to listen to it, he will realise he was roasted alive.
Even before there was a so-called schism, I wanted to listen to the Podcasts on the Book of Revelation but I found the early ones were unbearable to listen to. I actually had to get out of my bath and switch the damn thing off. The reason for that is November's constant interjections whenever Bill was speaking. Revelation Chapter 1, he must have said, "That's Right!" 700 times. Otherwise it was "Yes!" or even more irritating, "Uh hu!" or "Mm-mm!" It was like a school master agreeing with his pupil who had got the lesson right. Except that it was just a cover up for his own lack of scholarship and knowledge. I was also intensely irritated by his jovial laughter at his own so-called jokes which were not at all funny. I got to hate the sound of his voice.
Yesterday, I tried it out again. Same thing! That idiot couldn't keep his mouth shut.
Bill, he ruined those early podcasts on the Revelation, and I for one, would dearly love it if you could redo them. Joe November's voice shouldn't be anywhere on your site anyway! I know how busy you are...

[Kentucky]

I was also intensely irritated by his jovial laughter at his own so-called jokes which were not at all funny. I got to hate the sound of his voice.

When Eli first came on the scene, I was getting emails from a lot of people asking who the heck is this guy? As if I knew! We all agreed that his nervous giggle was weird and annoying. Your analysis is spot on, but most people don't realize that he was a Psychology major in college; I have no idea whether he ever got a degree, but he certainly knows the craft of mind control techniques and the art of lying. He is now trying to drag my name into his diatribe against Bill, because I'm not DSL and we're friends. Can you imagine that? Two people in Christian Identity that have differing views on a few things and get along just fine without the divide and conquer technique of pet doctrines. Friends of Eli (foe) better tow his line if they want to be in his graces huh? But, then again, most of them are probably only 85% White like him. It's really a shame that Christian Identity is leavened with those who would adulterate the racial message with such despicable psycho-babble, but how would we otherwise know them and their fruits or lack thereof? They just seem to be digging a deeper and deeper hole for themselves, which I hope they fall into... sooner than later. Maybe that explains the neurotic levity, a type of gallows humor for those who know they're going down.

Mark