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British Israelism and Christian Identity? Differences?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:12 pm
by NSWolf
First thing i apologize if this isn't in the right section folks.

Can somebody explain the main differences of the two faiths please,i believe that BI don't mind the jew or something along that line?
I'm a beginner so please forgive me if its a daft question.
Thank you in advance

Re: British Israelism and Christian Identity? Differences?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:19 pm
by Kentucky
NSWolf wrote:First thing i apologize if this isn't in the right section folks.

Can somebody explain the main differences of the two faiths please,i believe that BI don't mind the jew or something along that line?
I'm a beginner so please forgive me if its a daft question.
Thank you in advance

J.H. Allen's book 'Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright' is a good example of British Israel thought circa 1920's. However, today, not all BI groups have retained the identity of the tribe of Judah being jewry... thanks in large part to Christian Identity. I've known some BI folks up in Canada and they might as well be CI, but have kept the BI tag; they were also pro NS. That was another mistaken notion of BI prior to WWII, that Germany was somehow a type of prophetic Assyria. BI never really departed from the establishment churches and regarded their ideas supplemental. They did come out with many interesting books during that era (the first half of the 20th century), which I have in my library. But, they should be read through the prism of CI.

Mark

Re: British Israelism and Christian Identity? Differences?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:26 pm
by wmfinck
Some "BI" people (if I should not call them "clowns") hate me for this one, and Clifton as well:

http://christogenea.org/podcasts/british-israel-world-federation-biwf-jews-judah-and-dna-04-10-2010

The kike in Tel Aviv that BI embraces even called me an "evil beast", among other things.

I do not repent.

Re: British Israelism and Christian Identity? Differences?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:19 pm
by NSWolf
Thanks Guys for your replies.
Pretty much clears up what i already thought,Ill stick with the CI side of things. :D

Re: British Israelism and Christian Identity? Differences?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:59 pm
by MikeTheAdamite
One major point I think which changes the context of the bible is that British Israel (as far as I know) believe that Noahs flood was global,therefor everybody on the planet is decended from Naohs 3 sons!

Re: British Israelism and Christian Identity? Differences?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:00 pm
by Kentucky
MikeTheAdamite wrote:One major point I think which changes the context of the bible is that British Israel (as far as I know) believe that Noahs flood was global,therefor everybody on the planet is decended from Naohs 3 sons!

In all of my BI literature, I don't recall that doctrine being promoted (I assume it wasn't that much of an issue in the first half of the 20th century). In Frederich Haberman's book 'Tracing Our Ancestors,' which was published way before Christian Identity, he advocated the local flood. My mentor, Curtis Clair Ewing, who labeled himself 'Anglo Israel,' which I guess was somewhere in between CI and BI, taught the local flood. Did you have a source? I could be wrong, but I just don't recall it being a tenet of BI per se.

Mark

Re: British Israelism and Christian Identity? Differences?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:41 am
by MikeTheAdamite
http : // w ww .british -israel.us/85.html

Im not certain this site is reflective of THE british israel but this article certainly argues for a global flood.

Re: British Israelism and Christian Identity? Differences?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:41 am
by Kentucky
MikeTheAdamite wrote:http://www.british-israel.us/85.html

Im not certain this site is reflective of THE british israel but this article certainly argues for a global flood.

The website appears to be run by an individual, who goes unnamed (I'm always leary of CI or peripherally related websites without any names or location), and not an official organization like the British Israel World Federation. In fact, at the bottom of the home page we read this revealing tidbit:

"To purchase any of the books mentioned on this site, use credit card or debit card and follow the links. If you have any questions or comments, you can e-mail us at jewishchristian@seanet.com.

This would be rather insulting to some of my BI friends who know the score about jews.

There was quite an assortment of old and rare books offered, however I couldn't find one that discussed the Flood of Noah.

This website could possibly be masquerading as BI and, in reality, be what's called 'Torah Faith,' which has the same tribal identifications as BI (with Judah being the jews); the only difference is that TF is run by jews and not Brits. TF also despises Christian Identity.

Mark

Re: British Israelism and Christian Identity? Differences?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:00 pm
by Staropramen
Kentucky wrote:TF also despises Christian Identity.


Basically everyone despises Christian Identity.

Re: British Israelism and Christian Identity? Differences?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:20 pm
by Kentucky
Staropramen wrote:
Kentucky wrote:TF also despises Christian Identity.


Basically everyone despises Christian Identity.

Perhaps "despises" was too mild. Jews are lividly rabid and foaming at the mouth when a true Israelite proclaims their inheritance and birthright. Nobody has more to lose when that day comes and people realize the colossal lie that jews have planted in people's minds. Game over for jews.

Mark