Christian Identity Community

[Kentucky]

A friend sent me this article, which I thought might generate some thoughts among Identity Christians. It has an interesting history and commentary about the American versions of National Socialism and why they have failed. But, it also offers some insights that CI can explore and expound upon.

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/pseudons.html

Mark

[Michael]

An interesting Q & A. IMO the PLE concept is at least better than doing nothing, and when established provides a support network for defence of the white race, and so Western civil relations between folk, in a given PLE territory. However, long term I think, as they are not based on any CI position, and so include white folk that explain their existence through evolution, I cannot see such groupings being able to argue for the separation of themselves from other "races" that exist on this earth. In short, if you are going to explain white man's existence via evolution theory, you have no basis to want to be separate, as "well we all evolved from a single beginning, so why can't we learn to get along", as the humanist argument goes. Over time the liberal elements within such PLEs will make these arguments, and so the PLE will struggle to survive, as it has no academic basis for its existence. This would probably happen over a few generations, as folk are born into such societies having had no contact with the other "races" of the world.

Adamic man is the only being to have the cognative ability to rationalise. Thus, to make a decision to separate, an Adamic man generally has to have an academic basis to do so. In DSCI we have that. Pagans don't have it. Indeed, most other genres of WNists rely upon evolution to explain their very existence.

Another reason WNism has not got far, IMO, is that white folk are stiff necked independent folk (which on the other hand is one reason we are successful in running an orderly civil society) so they do not want to believe that they have to follow someone elses set laws, that being Yahweh's laws. So our strength of being rational independent folk, is also our weakness in that we are too independent to want to live by laws set by someone else, ie, Yahweh.

[Staropramen]

Question: In your best estimate, what caused Rockwell to fall into cultism?

Answer: No one has to guess, as the circumstances are available to anyone who reads his autobiography This Time The World,. And there he's quite candid about a life-long battle with alcoholism and the break-up of his marriages.

That's very deceptive. One has nothing to do with the other. Rockwell had a plan that included the use of NS regalia for a season. He was killed before he followed through with losing the "Nazi" image having successfully used it to access the MSM.

[Staropramen]

Anyway, there can be no communion with unbelievers. Godless "White Nationalists" cannot be trusted and all we can do is seek out opportunities to give them the Gospel. We cannot work with them or trust them. I found this out when I went public about my race-mixing past. I was banned from jewfront within a week. Sure, they waited until I gave them a political reason to ban me [criticizing David Duke] but that was not why I was banned. I had criticized that whore before. I was banned because I'm a living testimony to how far someone can fall and be completely changed by Christ. If godless White Nationalists will turn and stab one dedicated White Christian in the back for simply believing and following the bible in one particular area then you all need to realize that they are capable of just as quickly stabbing you in the back for obedience in another area of scripture that they also have a problem with.

And if you think that I am being unfair by lumping all godless White Nationalists together let me remind you of what is written in Matthew 12:30;

He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

[Lang]

I didn't like the guy answering the questions. But anyway, it's always good to remember that only a tiny percentage of people are CI and that we can't hate other people for not being CI. Lots of people become atheists because they are intelligent and soon realize the contradictions of judeo-churchianity... and they starts being atheists traditionalists, but only because they have a false image of what christianism is. Its also interesting how they follow God's laws even supposedely "hating" christianism.

Actually, taking into account that its not easy to find other CI and that we must spread the gospel, I dare to say that those atheists traditionalists are the best public to hear the message. In most cases they are intelligent, already recognized how bad judeo-churchianity is (which is one of the biggest problems when briging the CI message), follows at least most of God's laws, and in most cases the only reason for them have rejected christianism is the perverted doctrines of evangelical churches. They are only waiting for someone to come and teach them what real christianism is.

[Staropramen]

In most cases they are intelligent, already recognized how bad judeo-churchianity is (which is one of the biggest problems when briging the CI message), follows at least most of God's laws, and in most cases the only reason for them have rejected christianism is the perverted doctrines of evangelical churches. They are only waiting for someone to come and teach them what real christianism is.

Is this from actual experience with pagan Whites? Sounds like a pipe dream to me especially the part about following most of God's laws. You know I was at one time the moderator of the CI forum at jewfront. I was the one who convinced Lycia to drop the rule about cross-posting in that forum so that these legions of pagans "only waiting for someone to come and teach them what real christianism is" as you put it could do just that. A few came to visit and most that did only came to stir up trouble just as Pastor Downey warned me would happen. Give these people the Gospel when you can. Forming alliances with them under some big tent philosophy is a waste of time. These are "jews between the ears" which puts them functionally on a lower level than the jew himself even if they are still genetically our kin to whom we must witness to. That's not hating them. That's called wisdom. If we just ignored them it would be hate. I'm not saying that. Just don't form alliances with them while they are serving the jew.

[Lang]

Is this from actual experience with pagan Whites? Sounds like a pipe dream to me especially the part about following most of God's laws. You know I was at one time the moderator of the CI forum at jewfront. I was the one who convinced Lycia to drop the rule about cross-posting in that forum so that these legions of pagans "only waiting for someone to come and teach them what real christianism is" as you put it could do just that. A few came to visit and most that did only came to stir up trouble just as Pastor Downey warned me would happen. Give these people the Gospel when you can. Forming alliances with them under some big tent philosophy is a waste of time. These are "jews between the ears" which puts them functionally on a lower level than the jew himself even if they are still genetically our kin to whom we must witness to. That's not hating them. That's called wisdom. If we just ignored them it would be hate. I'm not saying that. Just don't form alliances with them while they are serving the jew.

I was not talking about pagans. I was talking about people who grew up in a judeo-churchianity church and became atheist when they got old because they realized the obvious and ridiculous contradictions that this pharisee religion has. And due to lack of information they think that churchianity is the same as christianism, and thats the reason for them to stop believing in God. I was not talking about pagans, they obviously believes in something. I was talking about traditionalists who are disillusioned of churchianity. They feel what is right and live according to this, at least in most areas, but if you ask them about christianism they will say that it's a jew thing destroying our people. And it indeed is for what they consider as christianism, which actually is churchianity. If they only knew about CI I believe that a lot of them would give christianism a chance. The pharisee religion is the main cause of atheism, if they weren't so stupid in their claims people would not run away from God.

[Kentucky]

The pharisee religion is the main cause of atheism

That's so true. The principle of judaism is secular humanism and humanism is basically situational ethics. In other words, making up the rules as you go along; much like what Obama is doing with "affordable" Marxist policies. It's a bankrupt religion that promotes unbelief, a form of self-inflicted insanity. How can there be a community of White people who do not share in a common belief system, in the Christian model? It always gets me when WN's say that we can figure out all that religious stuff after they win the war; suggesting that we put Jesus Christ on the back burner and work together for the common interest. What they don't understand is that the common interest should be the glorification of God. "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you" Mt. 6:33. Self righteousness is like shooting yourself in the foot.

Mark

[Lang]

What they don't understand is that the common interest should be the glorification of God.

I only wish that at least for a day all white people in earth believed that only Yahweh is the solution to our problems. I wanted to see what would happen.

What a bad luck for being born in such an age. I would prefer to walk for 40 years in a desert with my brethren than live with modern technology and my brethren betraying God and theirselves.

[Staropramen]

What a bad luck for being born in such an age.

Yahweh chose to place each of us here at exactly the time He wanted us here. There is no luck or chance involved. What good fortune to be placed here at a time that requires facing such challenges! More opportunities for rewards!