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Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:12 pm**

A gentleman who I personally know, who is in CI, keeps telling me that we are suppose to be preparing ourselves, as well as our family members, for what is to come, by having canned foods stored up, and, flashlights, and batteries, and first aid kits, and other things like that, so that we will be prepared for what is to happen. He is referring to these end times we live in today. He even says that if we are not prepared by stocking up on items like those I listed, that we will not be prepared and ready for Yahweh, when He returns, when the Marriage Supper happens, and that, if we are not prepared by stocking up on such items, that we may miss out on being a part of the Marriage Supper.

What do all of y'all think of all of that?

Please reply.

Yahweh Bless!

Praise and thank Yahweh the most high for all things!

- Brett Deason

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:00 pm**

I have slightly contradictory positions on this, but neither of them is based in preparing for a "Marriage Supper." I don't know anything about this, and can't comment on it directly.

My first position is to look to Matthew 6:19-34.

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt , and where thieves break through and steal : But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt , and where thieves do not break through nor steal : For where your treasure is , there will your heart be also. The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat , or what ye shall drink ; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on . Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap , nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow ; they toil not, neither do they spin : And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is , and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? Therefore take no thought , saying , What shall we eat ? or, What shall we drink ? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed ? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

In practice, for my wife and I, this means that we try to be unconcerned with things that are beyond our control. Trust these things to Yahweh. We also try to keep the pantry stocked and have spares of the things we depend on. This is where the contradiction comes in.

My opinion is that wanton disregard for your own needs and the needs of your family, while flippantly delegating responsibility to Yahweh, is a manner of tempting God. I have Christian Duties as a man, father, and husband. I must endeavor to fulfill them. I have to try earnestly. When I'm successful, praise be to Yahweh for the blessing, and I look to Yahweh's mercy and Grace when I fall short.

This feels right to me, because it maintains a hard working and humble posture. Hording up a life time supply of everything, and being smug that you're invulnerable feels wrong to me, because it implies that Man can influence the outcome or insulate himself from judgement. Plus, stock piling things has a self-exalting aspect to it.

* My positions are subject to change if someone demonstrates them to be Scripturally unsound.

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:32 pm**

Thanks for your reply.

Yahweh Bless!

- Brett Deason

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:07 am**

TJ wrote:I have slightly contradictory positions on this, but neither of them is based in preparing for a "Marriage Supper." I don't know anything about this, and can't comment on it directly.
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In practice, for my wife and I, this means that we try to be unconcerned with things that are beyond our control. Trust these things to Yahweh. We also try to keep the pantry stocked and have spares of the things we depend on. This is where the contradiction comes in.
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This feels right to me, because it maintains a hard working and humble posture. Hording up a life time supply of everything, and being smug that you're invulnerable feels wrong to me, because it implies that Man can influence the outcome or insulate himself from judgement. Plus, stock piling things has a self-exalting aspect to it.

* My positions are subject to change if someone demonstrates them to be Scripturally unsound.

TJ, it is not contradictory if you view your attitude compared with the economy of the times when Christ spoke those words which you quoted.

Look at the parable of the rich man, who when his bounty overflowed he built a bigger storehouse and laid things up for many years. His life was required of him upon his having done so! Yet perhaps if he had given his excess to the needy, and kept his original storehouse full, he may have lived on for the many years he had hoped.

Of course, that is just an example. But there is nothing wrong with having a couple of months supplies laid up. Or even a year if you cam. This was the norm in the agrarian society of first century Judaea.

I cannot do it here, but when I was in New York, I gardened, and we canned up the vegetables and ate them all winter. Sometimes we could enough of certain crops to eat them for two years.

However I believe it is vanity, to purposely store up an excess of food and supplies contingent upon speculation over what may happen in the future. So I don't believe we should have 5 years of MRE's in our closets. Or more guns than we carry at once, although perhaps a spare or two is not a bad idea. Or a million rounds of ammunition. Putting all of one's excess income into such things, that I believe is what challenges God. Another will use them, or they will go to rot in some other way.

I believe that currently you have the right attitude: a balance between what we should have on hand and a trust that Yahweh God will give us a way to provide for ourselves in the future.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:31 pm**

Thank You Bill for your reply.

Yahweh Bless!

Love our Adamic Race Always In Yahweh!

To HELL With The Beasts Of The Field!

- Brett Deason

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:36 pm**

Shouldn't this topic be in self-defense and military? Just my two cents.

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:49 pm**

NicoChristian wrote:Shouldn't this topic be in self-defense and military? Just my two cents.

It is all a matter of perspective.

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:44 pm**

BrettDeason wrote:A gentleman who I personally know, who is in CI, keeps telling me that we are suppose to be preparing ourselves, as well as our family members, for what is to come, by having canned foods stored up, and, flashlights, and batteries, and first aid kits, and other things like that, so that we will be prepared for what is to happen. He is referring to these end times we live in today. He even says that if we are not prepared by stocking up on items like those I listed, that we will not be prepared and ready for Yahweh, when He returns, when the Marriage Supper happens, and that, if we are not prepared by stocking up on such items, that we may miss out on being a part of the Marriage Supper.

What do all of y'all think of all of that?

Please reply.

Yahweh Bless!

Praise and thank Yahweh the most high for all things!

- Brett Deason

One who fails to plan and prepare is planning and preparing to fail.

If you decline to obtain the lamp oil in advance you will be unable to obtain it when you need it and you will not be able to get it from those who planned ahead.

I cannot help but think of the situation of the Ukrainian Christians and the others who supported the White Army. Many were praying, many were waiting for the British to come or the Americans to come and save them. Ultimately there is an expectation that they fight and save themselves.

Remember when Elijah was complaining and lamenting that of the prophets/priests of Yahweh HE ALONE was left as all of the others had been killed on the orders of Ahab and Jezebel... Yahweh basically told Eliah, "I don't want to hear it, you know what has to be done, stay focused and endure."

God doesn't want us to sit around and complain we're hungry and that He should feed us, He has given us ample opportunities to feed ourselves and to plan ahead for when times will be lean.

Remember the vision of Joseph, seven years of plenty followed by seven years of famine.

If we knew when famines were coming, we would plan accordingly. We do not have the visions of Joseph so we must be ready at all times.

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:47 pm**

I cannot but help but imagine how God might have replied to the Ukrainians crying for God to save them...

He would have been well within His right [He is of course God, anything is His right] to reply, "there are millions of you and many of you have rifles, organize, fight the evil, I will bless your efforts but you must fight."

If White Americans get wiped out it will only be because they turned their backs on God and mixed themselves into oblivion or because they stood by and let the Jew commissars in the DHS engage in massacres that they were too cowardly to stop.

Posted: **Wed May 01, 2013 1:40 pm**

I agree with what you say, wasn't it Benjamin Franklin who said, "God helps those who help themselves". As if we should sit around and let God baby feed us like the social parasites do. The idea that we should just sit around and let somebody else look after us is a Communist idea. Did the Israelites just sit and cry, sometimes they did, but for the most part they had to organize and look after themselves. May be that would explain why the Israelites and ourselves came upon such bad times, they often did just sit around crying helplessly. A man or nation reaps what he/it sows.

All I know is that in times of need those who haven't prepared will come crying to those who have. I often find myself having pity on those who haven't prepared, but then my patience runs out when I can't help everybody, as I only have enough for my family and a little extra and I have to say no.

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