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Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

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Re: Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

Postby Nayto » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:21 pm

Lang wrote:They say like "give everything you have, if you have 10$, give it, but if you have 200$, give it too, for God will reward you!". I don't know what is worst, this or those catholic priests abusing childs.


The pastor of my old judeo-Christian church recently suffered a severe stroke which removed his ability to speak, short term memory and use of the right side of his body. He was a money-grabber.
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Re: Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

Postby Joe » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:36 am

^The 'priest' of my local 'church' is a nigger from apefrica. There were some indians in the building, they recited memorized, brain-washed, responses to the unintelligible ramblings of the 'priest'. I couldn't understand anything ...I did not participate, I simply observed. The old people seemed offended that I didn't revere their nigger-priest and did not take part in their prayers or tainted rituals.
They barely read from the Bible.
They take the Eucharist from a nigger's hands, drink wine from a cup that has nigger lips all over it... I felt sick watching the old people.
...and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
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Re: Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

Postby Xile » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:28 am

Joe wrote:^The 'priest' of my local 'church' is a nigger from apefrica. There were some indians in the building, they recited memorized, brain-washed, responses to the unintelligible ramblings of the 'priest'. I couldn't understand anything ...I did not participate, I simply observed. The old people seemed offended that I didn't revere their nigger-priest and did not take part in their prayers or tainted rituals.
They barely read from the Bible.
They take the Eucharist from a nigger's hands, drink wine from a cup that has nigger lips all over it... I felt sick watching the old people.


Now we need a barf emote. I can't believe I used to think that negroes are our brothers. :?
How could someone go from White to Black in several hundred years? Pure nonsense. There are certain anthropologists who insist that we will all be a different 'ethnicity' in 10,000 years. :lol:

The only different between macro and micro evolution seems to be the length of time. :o
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Re: Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

Postby Joe » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:13 am

^With 'brothers' like niggers who needs enemies. It's a one-way street ...the animals get everything, we wouldn't dare refuse. They act like arrogant trash (niggers are very proud, of what, who knows), while falsely accusing us of somehow oppressing them to be under-achievers. I do not want to boast, but niggers talk themselves up and think they are strong while we have crushed them time and again. china has our military secrets thanks to the jews ...and the jews, what god could love them. Now that our people are mostly God-less, we haven't a chance at overtaking them in their depravity ...they will have successes built on our weakness.
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Re: Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

Postby Xile » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:32 pm

I was just on the phone with my dad and he made a comment that went something like this: "What sort of an 'understanding of the Bible' causes one to separate people by classes?" I'm going to assume that he was referring to my views on nonwhites. Why do people think that they understand how God works? I still don't like when negroes call Jesus their "homie" and why do they call it the 'Holy Ghost' and not Holy Spirit?

Could someone explain to me why people believe that Jesus somehow came to save every single person when He Himself said that He didn't come to abolish the law?
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Re: Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

Postby Kentucky » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:55 pm

Xile wrote:Could someone explain to me why people believe that Jesus somehow came to save every single person when He Himself said that He didn't come to abolish the law?

You used a word that they use: "every." They also use and abuse the words "all" and "whosoever." These words are twisted to mean every biped hominid on earth. They also twist the Word to say the Law was nailed to the Cross. Context is everything in the Bible, which some people don't seem too concerned about. Christ also said to whom He came for and who hears His voice.

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Re: Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

Postby Xile » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:25 pm

Kentucky wrote:
Xile wrote:Could someone explain to me why people believe that Jesus somehow came to save every single person when He Himself said that He didn't come to abolish the law?

You used a word that they use: "every." They also use and abuse the words "all" and "whosoever." These words are twisted to mean every biped hominid on earth. They also twist the Word to say the Law was nailed to the Cross. Context is everything in the Bible, which some people don't seem too concerned about. Christ also said to whom He came for and who hears His voice.

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If I were a bit younger - much of what I learn here would frighten me. The concept of heaven and hell has been placed deep in my sub-conscious level. Even my own mother would tell me that I have demons in me because I kept misbehaving. Once someone tells you these words "Do this or else you will go to hell." It would leave this false fear inside you would listen. It took several years for me to dissolve much of the crap that I have been brainwashed with.

One day it hit me that most of my delusions were just in my head and since then - I have learned to pay attention to what people say and I mean REALLY say. The day I realized my faults was the day that I felt God's love for me and it was better than anything I felt in my entire life. So powerful was it, that I couldn't sleep all night and the first thing I did was proclaim it to pretty much anyone I met (not many people).

That was when my belief in God went beyond room temperature.
Christians don’t need to “get” saved. Christ’s Salvation of His people Israel is an accomplished fact, not something we must “get”. - Pastor Mark Downey
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Re: Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

Postby Lang » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:43 pm

Xile, I'll rewrite what I had answered you so people here can say if I told you something wrong.

1. We are all one race, the HUMAN race!


This is the most stupid question ever, but let's suppose they are all blind and can't see the difference between a half-ape and a normal person. If we are only one race, so why whites are responsible for like 98% of all inventions? Why blacks are naturally good at running and jumping and whites at strenght?

Why some people only destroy things, while other build things?

If you put a japanese, a german and a nigerian guy in front of them, they will automatically recognize that one came from Europe, other from Asia and other from Africa. Why? Different races...

Also, why James Watson, who earned the nobel prize, proved that IQ are different between the races (therefore there are different races)?

Also, the notion that mankind began with Adam is the judeo-churchianity theory which makes them think that we came all from the same genetic stockpile. But this is clearly an absurd, because science already proved it wrong. Science comes to help to understand God, if your religion teach something against a well proved fact, so you are guided by dogmas, not by the biblical truth.

Adamkind is only the start of the Israelite people, which are white (however non-israelites whites probably existed long time ago). The flood was only in a part of the earth, not in the entire earth. It's all proved by both science and bible. To further information read: http://www.christianidentityministri..._From_Adam.pdf

2. Hah, Jesus was a JEW!


Another mistranslation. With jews bible means the judahites, in other words, people who lived in Judea. The confusion comes from the fact that Herodes, the half-breed king, annexed edomite territory into it and edomites as well as some other peoples started to live inside Judea.

Therefore, jews are as much israelites as a black living in Germany is german. Important to notice that by that time only a small number of true israelites lived in Judea, most of them were already in Europe.

This can be easily proved by history or by bible prophecy regarding the "jews"/israel, who was totally fullfiled by white people and only white people.

3. What does race matter, anyway?


Our mission is the following:

"Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness. (...) These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7 As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’

Bible NEVER said to spread the gospel to every place of the world. Christian mission is to spread the gospel to Israel.

If someone tells you about "love your neighbor as yourself", for God sake, they don't know nothing about Bible. Since when loving the NEIGHBOR is loving a nigerian or a mongolian? Love your neighbor is loving your kindred, your fellow israelite brothers and sisters.

Loving your neighbor in the street, for example, can't be love the entire city. And if we say it to a country, it doesn't means loving another country.

If still they don't believe you, shows them: "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;".

Therefore, if it's the book of the generations of Adam, its not the book of the generations of half apes or whatever. So, love your neighbor only as well as all the Law only applies to Adamkind. Non-adamic people just can't sin, because to sin you have to disobey the law, and if there's no law there's no sin. Therefore, there's no god for them as well. Notice that it's important to study the previous document regarding Adamkind which I sent to you in the first answer, otherwise this argument will be useless.

4. If we are different races then how are we able to mix?


If we are not different races, why God created everybody different?

If the intent was to everybody be only one race, everybody would be black and stupid or white and smart.

(Here I had told you a wrong information. For more genetical studies read that book of which I asked about the Mendel's genetics theory).

But there are clear punishments for this kind of sin. Just a little example: They are 13% of american population but represents 51% of HIV infections, 69% of gonorrhea, and so on. Almost all the rest of infections are for homossexuals. Therefore, excluding some exceptions, to concract these plagues you have to or have interracial or homossexual relationships. It's clearly God punishment.

5. If two people regardless of race, creed, religious background, and orientation decide to marry then why would God be against them?


Interracial relationships was the same thing of whoring after strange gods. There were no differences. Bible never separated strange people from strange gods. They're all in the same bag.

Mark Downey explained:

"The next time the term Baal is mentioned is in Numbers 25 where we find Israel has begun to miscegenate with non-Israelites and verse 3 says, “Israel joined in the worship of Baalpeor, and the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel.” Sexual intercourse with non-Whites is a primary objective of Baal worship. This is verified in Rev. 2:14 where Jesus said, “I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel… to commit fornication.” Strong’s Concordance and most Bible dictionaries have poor to misleading translations of the Greek word ‘porneia’ (#4202) as simply ‘fornication’, which can inadvertently lead our people to the sin of race mixing.

This can be proven with the exchange Jesus had with the jews in John 8:41, “We be not born of fornication; we have one father, God.” Our first impression is that this is a misuse of the word ‘fornication’ as simply sexual intercourse, however, as Jesus explains further on, it’s a difference in genetic background. “Jesus said unto them [jews], if God were your father, you would love Me” v.42. A better word than fornication would have been whoredom, and an allusion to Deut. 23:2, “A bastard [i.e. a mongrel, half breed; not an illegitimate child out of wedlock] shall not enter the congregation”; the NIV says, “No one born of a forbidden marriage…” Who were the Israelites forbidden to marry? It would be people like the Ammonites or Moabites mentioned in verse 3 who were mongrels. The Hebrew word for bastard is ‘mamzer’ and those concordances that do not provide the definition of ‘mongrel’ give the word ‘bastard’, which was a 19th century equivalent meaning mixed blood.

Why do modern Bible dictionaries exclude any reference to half-breeds, mongrels or miscegenation? Obviously, it is to eliminate the sin of marrying those races whom God had forbidden the Israelites to marry. Christ goes on to accuse these jews of having both Abraham and diabolos as their father. The jews were a mixed race people who could not identify with the truth of God, they were natural born liars. ‘Diablos’ (#1225) means false accuser, slanderer, devil and these jews lied about their ancestry just as they do today; they are neither Judahites or Semites. We can conclude then that this scriptural distortion is not only a stumbling block to White people today, but a sanction for Baal worship to incur the wrath of God against us just as Balac caused Israel to commit fornication or marrying forbidden races.

Fornication in Numbers 25 is a clear example of interracial marriage. “And Israel… began to commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab” v.1. Baal worshippers try to separate the stranger from their strange gods and justify today’s Israelite marrying someone of another race as long as they’re both Christians. Leading the charge with this concept is none other than the Grand Poobah to the Presidents, Billy Graham. But interracial marriage is never how it works in God’s jurisdiction. The first manifestations of Baal worship in the Bible are in the capacity of alien enemies to our race. “And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their gods… and bowed down to their gods. And Israel joined himself unto Baal-peor; and the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel” v.2-3. We are dealing with two distinct peoples here, not of the same bloodline. It was so serious that two race mixers were brought before Moses and the congregation and Phinehas, the grandson of Aaron, ran a javelin through both of them and halted the developing plague from God. Up to that point in time, 24,000 Israelites had died in this plague because of the race mixing sin of Baal worship. God was so impressed with this one Israelite who knew when it was ‘a time to kill’, that the Lord made a “Covenant of an everlasting priesthood” with his seed after him, because he was “Zealous for his God, and made atonement for the children of Israel” (Nu. 25:13). No doubt there are many Baal worshippers who would emasculate the spirit of God’s decree in denouncing such actions in our ultra-modern society."

Also, additional versicles:

"And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell: But thou shalt go unto my country, and to my kindred, and take a wife unto my son Isaac."

"When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girga****es, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. 3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4 for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you. 5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles[b] and burn their idols in the fire. 6 For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession."

This last part can't be more clear (and more racist).

6. You shouldn't judge people. Being prejudice is just plain wrong.


(This question you had asked in a different waay).

7. Didn't God let anyone get married as long as they are Christian? Anyway, God is love and you are just a bigot!


Read answer to question 5. In practice, if you marry with a negro besides your son being stupid and ugly, he will lose the convenant, therefore, there's no salvation to him. Only this

8. Racism leads to hate, which leads to violence and that is bad.


God is not a hippie using multi colored clothes and smoking marijuana. Hell, no! God loves His people, and hates our enemy. He can even hates us if we become perverted.

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’ Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it."

What they can say about this? Or about the genocide in Canaan? Or about Sodoma and Gomorra? Every enemy of Israel in the end suffered imensurable pain.
"Give a hammer to a white, and he will build civilization;
Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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Re: Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

Postby Xile » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:47 pm

Thanks for the reply, Lang. I'm sure that it will help several people. I'm a bit nervous that my dad will come back from his overseas work and will most likely try to rebuke me for going with CI. I'm building a list of Bible verses that I will tie-in, that way I will have an answer for every question he asks. I could always just use google translate and give him a few articles to read in poorly translated Russian.
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Re: Skepticism and Rebuking Judeo-Christians

Postby Lang » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:51 pm

I have a lot of trouble translating all the articles to my mom too... my english is not good to translate to others and google translator do a very poor job.
"Give a hammer to a white, and he will build civilization;
Give a hammer to an asian, and he will build other hammers;
Give a hammer to an arab, and he will kill his wife;
Give a hammer to a nigger, and he will kill whites;
Give a hammer to a jew, and he will sell it to niggers.
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