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THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

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Re: THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

Postby Nayto » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:52 pm

When the good king of Judah joined forces with the rebellious king of the house of Israel the Judahite king was punished for joining with the "unbelievers" (that is to be yolked with them), whereas a king of Judah was praised for inviting the house of Israel for a Passover (that is fellowship).

Just my two cents :)
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Re: THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

Postby Filidh » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:34 pm

After much prayer, I'm forced to concede that Mark may be correct in this regard. I apologize for anyone who may have been misled by me in this regard.
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Re: THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

Postby Vandal » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:55 pm

I only know one scriptural way to form a resistance against tyranny, since Yawheh allows most tyranny to be imposed on us for our disobedience. There is one scriptural way to organize a new nation in defiance of imperial power. Does anyone care to opine?
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Re: THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

Postby Kentucky » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:02 am

Vandal wrote:I only know one scriptural way to form a resistance against tyranny, since Yawheh allows most tyranny to be imposed on us for our disobedience. There is one scriptural way to organize a new nation in defiance of imperial power. Does anyone care to opine?

I think the Spirit of '76 was 'Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God" and they had this notion of 'No king but Jesus.'

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Re: THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

Postby Vandal » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:01 pm

And they resisted not to enlarge their egos, but to secure the blessings of an inheritance for their posterity.

Christ did give all and suffer shamefully to grant the promise anew.

Abraham was willing to give all for that promise.

Is Don Black? Is David Duke? Tom Metzger? Harold Covington? John DeNugent?

What spiritual and/or physical inheritance have they provided for their own children, let alone posterity in three generations?

Unless a corn of wheat fall to the ground, it bear no fruit.

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Vandal wrote:I only know one scriptural way to form a resistance against tyranny, since Yawheh allows most tyranny to be imposed on us for our disobedience. There is one scriptural way to organize a new nation in defiance of imperial power. Does anyone care to opine?

I think the Spirit of '76 was 'Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God" and they had this notion of 'No king but Jesus.'

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Re: THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

Postby Filidh » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:18 pm

You're right. I was wrong. Yahweh showed me Psalms 37 and 44 out of nowhere and unexpectedly, and that proved it to me. If we worship Hitler as a god then the mistakes he made become ours as well, and we'll fall ourselves in turn. Many hold Hitler in higher esteem than anything else, and I did too for a while. It took a little bit for me to be shown that if we don't accept that Hitler was a man who made mistakes, just like us, then he died for nothing.

A White Nation built on unsolid ground will be swept away, and Hitler knew that race alone wasn't enough. Diversity is weakness, whether racially or faithfully. Many faiths fighting side by side will fall in turn, because diversity is divisive.

If we place race above everything else - morals, faith, honor, virtue, trust, loyalty, kindness, love - then we become the jews. We may end up winning, but in defeating them we become them. Race is intrinsic and must remain pure forever. It goes without saying that we, the Israelite Folk, will inherit all the earth. But it won't be accomplished by worshipping idols and elevating men to the status of gods, in the cases of Odin, Hitler, and so on.

Yahweh alone will preserve our Folk. Without Him, there's no point to any of it.
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Re: THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

Postby Kentucky » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:03 pm

Filidh wrote:Many hold Hitler in higher esteem than anything else

If you were listening to Bill's program last Saturday evening, he gave a good explanation of what the "neo-nazis" are, and for the most part they aren't Christians and know next to nothing of National Socialism. It is a gross misrepresentation to characterize Hitler or the German people as anything other than Christians or contemporary scholarship that recognizes the truth of that era engaged in "Hitler worship," which is a favorite ad hominem about as accurate as "antisemitism." Hitler knew his place in God's scheme of things and Christian Identity (for the most part) knows Hitler's place in history.

If we place race above everything else - morals, faith, honor, virtue, trust, loyalty, kindness, love - then we become the jews.

LOL. Well, no. We (meaning racially pure White people) might be a lot of things, but we cannot "become" a mongrel Edomite whom God hath indignation forever. We have the grace of God to repent. The jew cannot change it's toxic nature.

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Re: THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

Postby Gallowglass » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:33 pm

I think he meant, we become "like" jews. But the reality is that jews don't consume the poison they sell to the goyim...the sorcerer sells his potions. If you noticed, orthodox and loyal jews have their own kosher products, for example.
The wish of the Jew is to make of non-jews mere beasts, empty of any morals, traditions and lastly, a people without God, just like is happening world wide but is in the US where the Jew had more success.
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Re: THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

Postby Filidh » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:14 pm

I wasn't saying we become racially mixed by our behavior. I'm saying that if we act like jews, then we're no better than them and if we conquer them and the earth but in so doing, we become like them in behavior, then what was the point of it all in the first place?

And I regard Hitler as one of the greatest men to have ever lived. But he made mistakes. He is our brother, not our father. I would've thought that this went without saying here.

I'm not saying that the /actual/ National Socialists worshipped Hitler. I'm saying that modern White Nationalists, right now as we speak, worship him already or are beginning to.

If you actually read what I wrote, you'll see that I don't view Hitler as a bad person /at all/. I'm saying that if we don't learn from his mistakes as well as the things he got right then he died for nothing!

Which is exactly what many modern White Nationalists are doing - elevating him to the status of godhood when he is our martyred brother in Yahweh.

Additionally, I'm sorry for singling you out and implying that you aren't Christian because you don't support the NF. That was blatantly stupid of me, and I shouldn't have posted in this thread in the first place, but since I did, what's done is done.
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Re: THE FOUR WORDS: ATHEISM CANNOT DEFEND RACE

Postby Kentucky » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:25 pm

Filidh wrote:I wasn't saying we become racially mixed by our behavior. I'm saying that if we act like jews, then we're no better than them and if we conquer them and the earth but in so doing, we become like them in behavior, then what was the point of it all in the first place?

I know your intentions are good. There's not much of a difference between the mongrel and a mongrelly-minded White person other than genetics. It begs the question as to whether the "tares" comprise those who are biological jews or includes the shabbez goi (White race traitors). It's like that movie 'Brokeback Mountain' i.e. are the actors any different than real homosexuals? You bring up a good point. When we peel back a few layers of an onion, it gets more pungent and when we look deeper into the question of "Hitler worship" or any similar type thing, it's really heart idolatry, idols of the heart. It can be anything from religious obsessions to money to cars to pet goldfish. It's not that we're acting like jews, it's more endemic to our own sin nature, which has been with us since the Fall in the Garden.

I gave the example recently of Ezekiel cooking his food in dung, which was a social commentary on the people of his day (and now ours) and if I can quote myself, "The dung in Ezekiel represents the traditions of men, which the priests were feeding the people after eating the true bread of the Word. We’ve got a real problem when people can’t discern the difference between good food and poop. Those who eat food cooked with dung may believe in God, they may even “eat” God’s Word, but they mix it with the dung of man’s traditions. In other words, it’s their own spin; making the Word conform to their notion of what is right. This is one of the most basic moral problems of all time." Which is why we can't take the word 'worship' too cavalierly if we don't know what it means or implies. I think it means giving someone or something power to do great things. However, the key word here is power. When Christ said, "All power is given unto Me in heaven and earth" (Mt. 28:18) that leaves very little for anything else, in fact it leaves none. So the great nemesis of Adamkind is not acting like a jew, but a deeper problem of thinking man has the power to do something in their heart, which is idolatry. "And God saw that the wickedness of man [not jews] was great in the earth and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

The problem is that occasionally God will delegate his authority to man who will in turn do thy Father's will on earth as it is in heaven. But, people are so used to the traditions of man that they can't discern from whence the power comes from. Conversely, catholics attribute divine power to the church itself and a vicarious vicar of Christ usurping heaven. You're right... what is the point of conquering if it isn't establishing the Kingdom of God on earth. We know that it will be established eventually, but it will have to be without the idols of our heart.

Additionally, I'm sorry for singling you out and implying that you aren't Christian because you don't support the NF. That was blatantly stupid of me, and I shouldn't have posted in this thread in the first place, but since I did, what's done is done.

We're all in a learning mode. I'm glad you're not mad at me.

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