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Stormfront, the Sikh shootings and Universalism

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Re: Stormfront, the Sikh shootings and Universalism

Postby Staropramen » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:18 pm

Nayto wrote:We ought to take it in our stride and count it joy when people speak badly against us.


That's not the issue, I can happily deal with that. It's being censored in my responses by godless devils that is the problem.
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Re: Stormfront, the Sikh shootings and Universalism

Postby Fenwick » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:03 pm

Stormfront's real problem is it's slow liberalising of it's racial integrity. A lack of cohesive theology I can understand, given how many of our kin are lost and confused, but when it turns from mere confusion to active hostility, the gathering place to debate ideologies becomes an enforced universalism.


It's become a numbers game, all about netting the most donations, allegedly to support a radio show, a medium 70 years out of date, on a station shared with all manner of degenerates.


On the other hand, we have the numbers of whites, and the ideology is constantly watered down lest it offend newcomers. Half of the members seem obsessed with that mantra of theirs, to the point where I had to explain to a supposed racial patriot decades older than me why whites are superior to negroes.


When White Nationalism changes from a descriptive term for all racial patriotic ideologies, and becomes a specific business concern excluding those who would maintain a higher standard, there is trouble. When that business concern becomes the specific and exclusionary ideology of a a forum that still claims to be the gathering place for all racial patriots, then you have a very big problem.


Of course there are decent people posting there, but they're being swallowed behind the dross. Pastor Downey's excellent exposé on catholicism was deleted for no reason other than that a few people were offended by it, not for any complaints as to its truth.

Some of the big tent people have difficulty understanding that an organisation which has murdered millions of whites, demands crippling tributes of gold from them, molests their children and appoints jews and other nonwhites into positions of authority is not something a racial patriot should involve themselves with. We wouldn't allow it with the SPLC, why do we allow it with the catholic church?


I wonder sometimes if we'd be better off without Stormfront. I might sound like a child whining about a rival clique, but when a website is glorified as the totality of our movement, we have to talk about that website seriously.
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Re: Stormfront, the Sikh shootings and Universalism

Postby Staropramen » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:33 pm

Fenwick wrote:I wonder sometimes if we'd be better off without Stormfront. I might sound like a child whining about a rival clique, but when a website is glorified as the totality of our movement, we have to talk about that website seriously.


Exactly. We need to start thinking more along the lines of effectively exposing this big-tent imposter instead of figuring out how to skate around some diabolical moderators from within with a point here and a link there. I was thinking that I would start making videos. But I need some prayer from everyone. I am getting alot of dental work done and this temporary denture is effecting my speech. Without it I sound completely foolish. With it I still sound a little strange. Just pray that when this work is all finished and I get my proper dentures I'll get my normal speech back. I spoke to the dentist today and he told me that the eventual permanent denture will be thinner and with some practice I should be able to speak normally again.
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Re: Stormfront, the Sikh shootings and Universalism

Postby Staropramen » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:11 pm

Fenwick wrote:It's become a numbers game, all about netting the most donations, allegedly to support a radio show, a medium 70 years out of date, on a station shared with all manner of degenerates.


That's another thing that annoys me about SF. If Derek wants to be a radio host then why doesn't he go and get a job to fund it? I've made various trips and done various jobs "for the cause" and I never solicited money for my efforts. Remember when David Duke was arrested in Prague? It took me over a week to make a video with translated subtitles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDIiSOthK5g

Time I could have been making money doing other things. I never took up a collection. There is this constant pressure for funds to "keep Stormfront alive" and yet the reality is that most of the money goes to support a third-rate Political Cesspool ripoff, not Stormfront itself.

Derek should get a job like everyone else.

Do you know why I stepped down as a moderator? There was a guy who was posting on SF mostly to promote his merchandise website. If you searched his posts 90% of them were in the Classifieds. SF has a policy of not allowing the advocacy of illegal activity. This guy was selling shirts that promoted illegal activity so I pulled some of his threads. So this guy starts cursing me out in PMs. But he payed for a Sustaining Membership so only Admins can ban him. He somehow found out my home address and started sending things to my home. Nothing overtly threatening but I took this to communicate "I know where you live". So I called him on it and invited him to my doorstep but he never showed. I demanded that he be banned or else and Mr. Boot sided with this guy and refused to ban him. Obviously he was making good money via SF and the kickbacks to Don must have been substantial.
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Re: Stormfront, the Sikh shootings and Universalism

Postby Kentucky » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:24 am

Staropramen wrote:Do you know why I stepped down as a moderator? There was a guy who was posting on SF mostly to promote his merchandise website.

Trinket salesmen are the bane of the movement, going back decades. It's pretty embarrassing to see White Nationalists buying flags and such products that are made in China. Christian Identity, on the other hand, doesn't have much to sell other than books. Your story is what makes Stormfront all the more offensive and antithetical to real White Nationalism. How ironic.

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Re: Stormfront, the Sikh shootings and Universalism

Postby IdentityChristian » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:04 pm

Staropramen wrote:Back in the 1960's it was Christian White Supremacy that guided the majority of racially conscious White Americans. Even George Lincoln Rockwell, himself not a Christian had the sense to regularly speak the facts about the importance of Christianity to our people and the necessity for preserving it at all costs.


George Lincoln Rockwell, shortly before his assassination, urged Whites to embrace Christian Identity. Rockwell was the best leader America had and he had the vision to understand that Identity is the PATH to our salvation in every meaning of that term.

"I knew I would not live to see the victory which I would make possible, but I would not die before I had made that victory certain."
- This Time The World, Chapter 15, George Lincoln Rockwell
And he gave them into the hand of the heathen; and they that hated them ruled over them.
Psalms 106:41
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Re: Stormfront, the Sikh shootings and Universalism

Postby Staropramen » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:49 pm

IdentityChristian wrote:George Lincoln Rockwell, shortly before his assassination, urged Whites to embrace Christian Identity. Rockwell was the best leader America had and he had the vision to understand that Identity is the PATH to our salvation in every meaning of that term.

"I knew I would not live to see the victory which I would make possible, but I would not die before I had made that victory certain."
- This Time The World, Chapter 15, George Lincoln Rockwell


I heard once that he met Wesley Swift shortly before his death and accepted CI. I've never been able to confirm this. I know one guy who is a sort of ANP historian and big time collector of ANP memorabilia. I've obtained a few extremely rare ANP records from him. He claims that Rockwell becoming CI is not true but I suspect he may have a motive for saying that. He sent me a copy of his band's CD and the first song I played at random was a hurricane of anti-christian sentiment.
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