Rahlfs Septuagint + other PDF books

[Filidh]

Here are some pdfs. We've got Rahfl's Septuagint, Conybeare's Septuagint Grammar, Thackeray's Septuagint Grammar (be careful with Thackeray, though), a Koine Greek pronunciation guide, and Lust's Septuagint Lexicon. Lemme know if any of the links die and I'll re-upload. Note: I didn't scan any of them, just gathered them and uploaded them in one spot.


http://www.2shared.com/document/dCTuYV07/rlfspt.html
https://mega.co.nz/#!0pRThaZb!ZO9StWAj8 ... -iUrV6A86s

http://www.2shared.com/document/Bk279HUE/cnybrgrm.html
https://mega.co.nz/#!V1RHVIxT!bZ2JxQRMl ... qxQZbUmaX0

http://www.2shared.com/document/gO6ufZKW/thkrygrm.html
https://mega.co.nz/#!F0gAxTbS!Z9n9h1_lM ... db10DqV1DE

http://www.2shared.com/document/5nWYEq8g/knprngd.html
https://mega.co.nz/#!1wYjhDKa!d5Ab0Q7_r ... dYITp5TrNI

http://www.2shared.com/document/OAk-bhV ... klxcn.html
https://mega.co.nz/#!Zww0WQoS!fHJOzhU4- ... 0NGhytnc7A

[edit] Here are some more links. First is a PDF of the L&S Lexicon mentioned below, second is a link to the online version of said lexicon, third is to an online concordance of some of the most common NT Greek words (but make sure to lookup the wordmeanings at wiktionary, rather than just using only the meaning they give you on the page), the fourth is to an online version of the NA28, the fifth is to an online edition of Rahlf's Septuagint.
http://archive.org/details/greekenglishlexi00lidduoft
http://www.lexilogos.com/english/greek_ ... ionary.htm
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Concordan ... ment_Greek
http://www.academic-bible.com/en/online ... aece-na-28
http://el.wikisource.org/wiki/Παλαιά_Διαθήκη_(Rahlfs)

Also, Bill recommended the book "Greek Enchiridion" (starts with New Testament grammar and later on goes into the Septuagint a bit) which is only $10 if you buy it used, and so far seems to be really good, in conjunction with Liddell and Scott's Greek-English Lexicon (of which an abridged version can be obtained for $30 used or $40 new). I ordered the enchiridion used from amazon, but another used bookstore that has tons of stuff for cheap and might have copies is:
http://www.abebooks.com

Here's a glossary of grammatical terms. Memorizing this page will make all subsequent grammarlearning easier.
http://tyancientgreek.org/glossary.html

In regards to the New Testament, using the "Christogenea New Testament" and the "Nestle-Aland 27th Edition Greek New Testament" as an interlinear seems to be the best choice, and is what I'll be doing for my studies. There is a 28th edition of the Nestle-Aland NT out now, altho I myself know next to nothing about the specific changes or the details involved in it.

Hail the Christfolk!

[edit #2] added the L&S Lexicon with a link that actually works.
[edit #3] fixed upload links
[edit #4] added grammatical glossary. also, i'm looking into whether Hendrickson Publishers will let me scan a copy of the Greek Enchiridion and upload it online, since it's an out-of-print book. stay tuned!

[Filidh]

After doing more research into mega.co.nz, it's pretty obvious that the site's a huge honeypot, so I'd advise everyone to not use the mega download links and stick with the 2shared ones. I'll update with more mirrors soon.

For evidence of them being a honeypot, read their Privacy Policy and ToS. Sooo.....yeahhhh....no more mega.

[Nayto]

Thanks for this!

[Filidh]

glad you like the stuff Nayto.

here're the mirrors on the christogenea server:
http://files.christogenea.org/filidh/greek/cnybrgrm.pdf
http://files.christogenea.org/filidh/greek/knprngd.pdf
http://files.christogenea.org/filidh/greek/rlfspt.pdf
http://files.christogenea.org/filidh/greek/thkrygrm.pdf



edit: i deleted the link to lust's lexicon since it's under copyright. all the others are public-domain. since only stuff that isn't copyrighted will be uploaded to the christogenea server, lust's lexicon will stay at 2shared for now (link is in the op)

[Joe]

Are you learning koine Greek Filidh?

[Filidh]

yes, altho i began learning it much later than i had originally intended. im only a beginner at the moment.

[Joe]

So for the NT you would use the Christogenea NT as the basis for your understanding, you use the NA28 as the Greek version you translate from.

Between these two you use L&S (You have posted an old version, perhaps because later editions are politicized?), the wiki, the greek grammar site and the Greek Enchiridion.

So someone who wants to understand for himself would only really need to get, to start, the L&S and the Greek Enchiridion books. I have seen Emahiser use other lexicons as well.

Is this how you begin, or have you learned the alphabet and other foundational concepts elsewhere?

I know these are dumb questions, I have looked at other sites but I put more trust in people here.

the large 9th edition of Liddell & Scott defines as “burnt...II. shining...red-brown...”. The 1996 Revised Supplement to this edition inserts after burnt “perhaps black- or dark-complexioned”, and emends shining to bronze-coloured. The black I must reject. Red-brown describes a sun-tanned Caucasian, and not a dark-skinned negro who only gets blacker in the sun. It seems that the definition of these words have indeed, over time, been politically corrected.

[Filidh]

i learned the alphabet from the book "teach yourself ancient greek", which teaches attic-dialect and not koine, but still works for learning the alphabet. i only used it because it was sitting on the shelf at the library and so was easily accessed.

the alphabet is extremely easy, you could set one day aside for it and afterwards have it.

for the greek text of the new testament i'm still using the NA27 because i have a hardcopy of it with me, and don't feel up to dropping the money on the NA28 at the moment. i use the christogenea new testament because it's literal and unbiased. for the old testament, i'm using rahlfs septuagint (altho i don't have a hardcopy yet).

for the l&s, the version i posted was just so others would have access to one and it was what i found first. i'm unaware of later versions being politicized, but since you've brought it up i'll look into it. based on the quote you provided, tho, it certainly seems that way.

regarding the greek enchiridion, i contacted Hendrickson Publishers, and they said that the rights have gone back to William G. MacDonald since the book is out of print, but they have no idea how to contact him personally and i've been unable to find a way as well, so for the moment scanning a copy of it and uploading it here won't work. but it's available for really cheap, as low as $3 plus shipping, so that shouldn't be a hurdle.

to understand for yourself, i'd suggest, before anything else, familiarizing yourself with all of the grammatical terms and ideas on the tyancientgreek site, such that you know them by heart.

learn the alphabet and reconstructed pronunciation if you seek to be able to speak the language and have it sound really musical, or just a basic pronunciation if you just seek to read it.

then learn a lot of the most common words, which the wikipage is very helpful with. the pronunciationguide i posted was from a man who teaches a certain reconstructed pronunciation that seems good, and sounds nice to my ears.

i myself am only using the lexicons of l&s and lust for now.

this is how i'm learning it at the moment. i haven't taken any classes or anything on it, and am glad that i haven't done so because most of them are in error because of their tradition.

anyway, hope this helps. feel free to ask any questions you want.

also, if you haven't purchased any hardcopies of either the greek old testament or new testament, check out:
http://www.scholarly-bibles.com/product ... raeca.html

[Joe]

Thank you very much.

I will get a 'teach yourself ancient Greek' type book to get the basics on word forms and the alphabet. Participles, propositions etc, I have heard it said many times but wasn't always sure about the Greek side of things.

Oh, that link for the NA28 and Septuagint is great.

[Filidh]

i'd recommend that you only use the "teach yourself" style books to learn the alphabet and pronunciation, because the enemy injects evil worldideas thru their defining of certain words to mean something other than what they truly mean, because of their tradition, in those books.

bill once said "fuck all those teach yourself greek books", and i agree mostly, aside from learning the alphabet and pronunciation. other than that, remember that a little yeast yeastens the whole bread

stick with the "greek enchiridion" for all grammarknowledge.

i apologize for not being clearer about this before.