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Eveleen wrote:I don't deny that there are indeed mixed Spanish (more in the south) or Portuguese (in this case even more), but saying that there is just a minority white people is pure exaggeration. Just more divide and conquer.
Eveleen wrote:I lived several years in Spain and I can tell you that most Spanish people are not mixed. I don't understand why Americans have this idea that the Whole Mediterranean is bastardized with just some few remaining whites.
There are of course, people who are mixed, but the point is that there are many, really many gypsies in Spain who call themselves Spanish, or there are second of third generation (or even more) of Marocains or arabs that do the same. I don't deny that there are indeed mixed Spanish (more in the south) or Portuguese (in this case even more), but saying that there is just a minority white people is pure exaggeration. Just more divide and conquer.
EzraLB wrote:Eveleen wrote:I don't deny that there are indeed mixed Spanish (more in the south) or Portuguese (in this case even more), but saying that there is just a minority white people is pure exaggeration. Just more divide and conquer.
I'm not trying to "divide and conquer" here by pointing out the historical reality of race mixing going on in these countries. In reality, both Spain and Portugal were at one time the wealthiest and most prosperous of all countries in Europe, and today they are economic basket cases, with Portugal far worse than Spain.
What accounts for that fall in prominence except for mongrelization? Whatever Whites are left in Spain have the burden of carrying the rest of the population on their backs, and the results speak for themselves.
While I haven't lived in Spain or Portugal, I have visited both several times. I did not see any native Portuguese whom I would consider White. In Spain it was similar, but harder to spot.
My litmus test is simple: would I take a Spanish or Portuguese person as a spouse? The answer is no--just because I would not trust my eyes to provide me with the right answer. I think marriage to anyone from these countries carries a risk that I don't find in other European countries.
Are there pure Whites left in Spain? Probably, but I don't believe I have the ability to separate the Wheat from the Tares as far as they are concerned. Nor would I want to risk my children's destiny on my ability to tell the difference.
I'm not trying to "divide and conquer" here by pointing out the historical reality of race mixing going on in these countries. In reality, both Spain and Portugal were at one time the wealthiest and most prosperous of all countries in Europe, and today they are economic basket cases, with Portugal far worse than Spain.
What accounts for that fall in prominence except for mongrelization? Whatever Whites are left in Spain have the burden of carrying the rest of the population on their backs, and the results speak for themselves.
While I haven't lived in Spain or Portugal, I have visited both several times. I did not see any native Portuguese whom I would consider White. In Spain it was similar, but harder to spot.
My litmus test is simple: would I take a Spanish or Portuguese person as a spouse? The answer is no--just because I would not trust my eyes to provide me with the right answer. I think marriage to anyone from these countries carries a risk that I don't find in other European countries.
The point to take away from all this is that, taken as a whole, the majority of Spain's populace is notably more mixed than the majority of the populace constituting, say, Germany or Iceland.
When addressing questions of racial purity, the southern European countries like Spain or Italy are going to raise more eyebrows than the northern European countries like Sweden or Norway; for the reasons Ezra pointed out.
Once we start making compromises we may as well change the forum name to Stormfront.
And, no, I would not say with any confidence that all those pictures of Spaniards are White. To me, some look mixed. Others are obvious harder to tell.
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