Some people are just too dark to be pure White.

[NicoChristian]

I've noticed how WNism seems to accept some of the swarthiest looking characters who are barely passable as White. I'm not a Nordicist, but some people are just obviously not pure. I think you can draw the line at jet black hair, eyes and hooked noses along with tanned skin. I'm not trying to say that only blond blue eyed are pure, not even Hitler said this. Simply lighter features implied less chance of having mixed with darker races.

I just think that the classification of White has become too liberal in WNist circles as has morality and other ethics. The less we enforce racial purity the more polluted the race becomes. Even the Spanish used to have 'lipieza de sangre' which meant that one had to prove racial purity so that no Jewish or Moorish blood was in ones ancestry. I'm sick of mongrels coming into the movement to simply become Whiter, they're often the ones promoting liberal ideas and racial impurity. How did the movement degrade from 100% White to 85% White is enough?

[wmfinck]

Well, your concerns are certainly valid. Usually there are easily discernible physical features which distinguish White brunettes from arabs. However sometimes it is difficult, due to all of the mixing which has occurred at the European fringes, and now in America.

I did a podcast on this topic a few years ago, and also took a few stabs at Rabbi Marty and the other clowns who despise the Irish. I did not make any notes, so it is what it is:

Blondes and Brunettes, and today's word: Swebernigger

[Nayto]

I agree. Sometimes it's just too awkward for people to point it out because it's some CI's wife/child/whatever. Takes some guts just to do it.

[Nayto]

I just listened to the introduction of the show (first 30 minutes or so) and I agree for the most part. Being brunette and having brown eyes is not adequate criteria for judging one's race, but like Nico says, sometimes it's just too much. Sometimes you can see that the person is definitely not white through "easily discernible physical features". This is what I was referring to in my above post.

A friend of mine, who is also CI here in South Africa, and myself, were approached by someone who wanted to know more about the truth of our movement. I took one look at this guy and said to my friend, "This guy is definitely not white." He was one of those types who'd pass as white to the unenlightened, but to us there is clearly something fishy going on genetically. As a result I chose to disassociate myself from the newcomer and let my friend deal with him, because my friend refused to accept his racial dubiousness. Most CI in South Africa focus more on the ritualistic elements which have crept into our movement like pork, circumcision, sabbath, etc (all of which are important, but pale in comparison to our race). My friend "educated" the newcomer on these elements, which he accepted and applied with vigor. Only later did my friend mention anything regarding race and upon said mentioning, the newcomer railed against him. He instantly removed himself from any contact with us. I pointed out to this friend that the mongrel was not able to accept this issue of race due to his own racial aspects being compromised.

From this perspective I disagree that we cannot confirm our own racial purity. I know that I am of pure race. I firmly believe that the foremost fruit of a racially pure person is the ability to accept our racial apartness, superiority and ultimately our exclusive presence in this universe. I guess that makes me an "exterminationist", lol. Having said that, it is not to say that a mongrel cannot accept this premise simply to gain foothold in our movement. We know that our enemy disguises itself as "messengers of light". From another perspective, who's to say that a racially pure white person isn't just too brainwashed at that moment to accept the racial truth of the message? This probably seems contradictory to the above paragraph and first sentence of this one, but I will try to clarify it.

This ties in to Mark's latest sermons which are about our association with other races. I would interpret this as having different tiers of association with others. Excuse the analytical approach to what is actually a rather soft issue, but that is just my nature. On the first tier we have those who are CI; accepting Christ, accept that racial purity is the only way and look white. I firmly believe that with prolonged scrutiny to these criteria, one's racial purity will eventually expose itself. Let's take Joseph November for example. In that show you (Bill - I'm not sure who I'm addressing, but it'd seem weird to talk about you in third person seeing as how you posted above) speak quite amicably of him because Joseph had not yet been prolonged long enough and you assumed his racial purity (although maybe you hadn't see the fotos in that shills thread, lol). Later Joseph's true colors innevitably showed through at which point you disassociated yourself and exposed him for what he is. This is in line with scripture because one's fruits will expose them for what they are.

Now how long would it take for such exposure to take place? My point is that we can't live in a perpetual state of a Schrodinger's cat scenario. We cannot assume potential racial compromisation until Christ returns. I'll tell you one thing, I would not have married my wife, nor would I marry anyone if I lived in such a psychological state. I exposed her to the above criteria and after years she has not failed. Therefor I assume that she is pure white (also she looks very white ). When I met Acrimonious, albeit only by voice so far, I applied the same criteria to him and I was sure to expose him to it (and he towards me). So far we have not failed each other in that criteria and share iron-clad conviction when it comes to racial superiority, supremacy and exclusivity. Thus I will assume he is white and act as if Schrodinger's cat has been removed from the box.

I've found in my experience that mongrels more often that not are quickly exposed when these criteria are applied, however we cannot discount our brainwashed brethren which is why I have a second tier. People who one can assume is white based on appearance, yet does not accept aspects of race. I'm a little more careful with such people, although I expose myself to them and am sure to attempt to spread the Good News. I will fraternize with them (so long as they can tolerate a "racists" company, lol) to some extent, although I choose to surround myself more with the first tier of people. I will put my trust in and turn to the first tier for help and guidance, but not the second. They are in a Schrodinger's cat kind of situation, but the benefit of the doubt is with them for the sake of spreading the Good News.

So my point is that at some point we have to take our racial purity for granted. I believe we are equipped with the means and God's grace will weed out the mongrel agents.

[Filidh]

Raven black hair and very tanned skin are both Aryan characteristics, and the raven hair finds itself in men such as Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels, Nikola Tesla, Isaac Newton, and Carl Linnaeus. If you're in the sun all the time, you'll get tanned-leathery skin, simple as that.

I agree with the rest of your post, tho. There are way too many folks (such as the leader of Golden Dawn) involved in Nationalsocialist-oriented movements who, as you said, are mudbloods without a doubt. (cmon, mudblood is a catchy word =P)

The whole notion that blond hair and blue eyes indicate a purer Aryan subgroup than brown hair and brown eyes, or black hair and brown eyes, comes from Darwin and, as such, has no place in identity Christianity. Chamberlain and those who followed him, including Hitler and Goebbels, were wrong in this aspect of their work even tho they were right about much else.

[Kentucky]

So my point is that at some point we have to take our racial purity for granted. I believe we are equipped with the means and God's grace will weed out the mongrel agents.

Physical traits and spiritual profiling will eventually expose the enemy. The mongrel is our enemy and that incurs the wrath of the Saxon; the enemy calls it "hate"... the Bible calls it hate. We can only take one's purity for granted if it is tempered with trust. It dawned on me several years ago that the Holy Spirit has bequeathed unto us the ability to discern one's trustworthiness. The first blip on the radar is when those wishing to be a part of our community bear false witness, which eventually turns into the Big Lie of slander and outright misrepresentations. And then they have the audacity to talk about gossip and slander. "Mark them who cause divisions... and avoid them" is not an honest difference of interpretations over doctrinal matters, but those who have an overt motive to sow seeds of discord. That's why this discussion about Joe November is a biblical mandate to identify and separate ourselves from the tares. God's grace gives us the wherewithal to pursue whatever form of contamination tries to worm itself into the movement of Christian Identity. That is the objective of the enemy: to impair us from moving in the right direction. Our duty is whether or not we love our own kind enough to do something about its preservation. It is constant vigilance, because the enemy will always be there until the day of his Final Solution.

One more point about racial identification is how the person in question applies the Law of God. We have Laws of man's relationship with God and man. There is a due process and Law of accusation for reconciling disputes among brethren. If somebody doesn't adhere to this process, especially if they call themselves a "pastor," then their claim to being White comes into question. We all know why. Only Israel was given the Law and the New Covenant makes sure its there by putting it in our heart and mind. It may be dormant from years of brainwashing, but once one is in Christian Identity all those wrong ideas about race melt away. If one looks at the chronology of the split between Bill and Eli, there were months of open opportunity to discuss and debate the subject. But, Eli refused and resorted to name-calling. Only after the discord and contamination spread, did Eli then want to debate it. Who wants to debate a liar? The timing of Eli's posturing and psychological maneuvering should be seen as contempt for God's Law. "Ye shall know them by their fruits." "If a man abides not in Me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."


Mark

[Fenwick]

One of the biggest things for me was all the quasi arab people on the fringes of Europe. It's often said that it's merely sun tan, but we all know that sun tan does not give people a muddy brownish sheen like stained teak, nor does it cause a concentration of melanin in the ends of the fingers.


One WN on SF put it well: "If all the european darkies are only tanned, why aren't Australians and Afrikaners that dark?"

[Nayto]

One WN on SF put it well: "If all the european darkies are only tanned, why aren't Australians and Afrikaners that dark?"

Usually you just have to look under the shirt and you will strain your eyes at the brightness of the unexposed skin

[Kentucky]

One WN on SF put it well: "If all the european darkies are only tanned, why aren't Australians and Afrikaners that dark?"

We tan in America also. It's called "rednecks." LOL. But it disappears during the winter. Swarthiness is something that is not seasonal; a swarthy person has that tinge year round... and it comes from mixed blood.

Mark

[Fenwick]

One WN on SF put it well: "If all the european darkies are only tanned, why aren't Australians and Afrikaners that dark?"

We tan in America also. It's called "rednecks." LOL. But it disappears during the winter. Swarthiness is something that is not seasonal; a swarthy person has that tinge year round... and it comes from mixed blood.

Mark

That's precisely it. We tan, or we end up going red eventually, or some of us are olive hued shades of white.

There are some darkies who are practically mestizos, claiming they are olive skinned or tanned. But there are whole nations of olive skinned and tanned white people who are nowhere near that dark. They can't blame everything on the sun.


The SFer you referred to as "Tonto" comes to mind.