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"Best" countries are the immoral ones

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Re: "Best" countries are the immoral ones

Postby Kentucky » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:09 pm

SwordBrethren wrote:I refuse to waste myself in a futile attempt at saving a whore. They had the law and the prophets, let them listen to them.

I can understand what you're saying as well as Filidh. On the one hand we don't cast our pearls before swine and on the other hand we forgive seventy times seven. I have a prison ministry with about 100 inmates and some of them don't even read what I send them; at least that's what other prisoners tell me. I spend one day a week doing correspondence and it's time consuming. I hear a lot of promises about when they get out, they're going to set up a church, and when they get out I never hear from them again. I could be discouraged, but I think that if just one of these guys turns out like Bill, then it will have all been worth it. It's like being a missionary to our own people who don't want what we have to give them, whatever station in life they have. We merely plant the seed or give them a legal notice (that ignorance is no excuse of the law) and God does the choosing of when it is the appointed time for their calling in life. When somebody rejects the Good News of the Word, there's always somebody else who hasn't heard it yet and we move on.

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Re: "Best" countries are the immoral ones

Postby SwordBrethren » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:06 pm

Kentucky wrote:
SwordBrethren wrote:I refuse to waste myself in a futile attempt at saving a whore. They had the law and the prophets, let them listen to them.

I can understand what you're saying as well as Filidh. On the one hand we don't cast our pearls before swine and on the other hand we forgive seventy times seven. I have a prison ministry with about 100 inmates and some of them don't even read what I send them; at least that's what other prisoners tell me. I spend one day a week doing correspondence and it's time consuming. I hear a lot of promises about when they get out, they're going to set up a church, and when they get out I never hear from them again. I could be discouraged, but I think that if just one of these guys turns out like Bill, then it will have all been worth it. It's like being a missionary to our own people who don't want what we have to give them, whatever station in life they have. We merely plant the seed or give them a legal notice (that ignorance is no excuse of the law) and God does the choosing of when it is the appointed time for their calling in life. When somebody rejects the Good News of the Word, there's always somebody else who hasn't heard it yet and we move on.

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Indeed, those who want forgiveness have to seek it and ask for it.

A whore who sleeps with a different guy each night, clearly does not want forgiveness because she does not see anything wrong with what she is doing.

I don't believe man can impact the salvation or calling of any others. We can make the truth available for those who wish to hear it, but anybody not moved to seek out the truth by Yahweh will not seek out the truth and will not recognize it when they hear it.


Forgiveness is never given freely nor automatically, it must first be requested, it must be sought.


If thy brother trespasses against thee, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.
Revelation 18:
Und ich hörte eine andere Stimme vom Himmel, die sprach: Gehet aus von ihr, mein Volk, daß ihr nicht teilhaftig werdet ihrer Sünden, auf daß ihr nicht empfanget etwas von ihren Plagen!

Denn ihre Sünden reichen bis in den Himmel, und Gott denkt an ihren Frevel.


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Re: "Best" countries are the immoral ones

Postby Filidh » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:47 pm

There are many cases in people's lives, in which they have had no chance to become moral in any sense of the word. A little girl who is raised on fast food and tv in a two-bedroom apartment with three siblings from birth till college, whose only experience with Christianity is when her history teacher tells her that it grew out of polytheism. That's if her parents weren't clawing at each other the previous night until morning hours, so she could get some semblance of good sleep at least and not fall asleep through class.

Her experience with life is the jew-run "schools" of today, which are basically a youth penitentiary with a racial Guilt-Complex installed in your child at no additional charge. The kids are having sex with each other starting at age seven, and that's about all they do, and since she's physically attractive she'll follow the only role model she has, MTV, and sleep with guy after guy. Add a few years to the mix and you've got an American college woman.

At what point in that girl's life was she exposed to any law or any prophet?

There are millions of examples of this throughout the Aryan parts of the earth. This is an extremely mild one.

How could you possibly expect that person to come to the truth when she's had moral poison poured into her from birth till now?
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Re: "Best" countries are the immoral ones

Postby wmfinck » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:21 am

Kentucky wrote:I have a prison ministry with about 100 inmates and some of them don't even read what I send them; at least that's what other prisoners tell me. I spend one day a week doing correspondence and it's time consuming.


Clifton's experience has been that many prisoners just like to GET mail. I saw that same thing in prison. They don't DO anything with the mail they get, but they like to get it because it makes them feel important at mail call, when they get attention.

For that reason, Clifton began asking for ten stamps a year from prisoners, if they would like to continue receiving his mailings. It is not that he wanted to charge, but rather he wanted to weed out the ones who just liked to get mail for the sake of getting mail, and were never really interested in the message. His prisoner mailing list dropped in size about 75%, if not more. Ten stamps is not a lot for six of Clifton's mailings (he only mails every other month). Ten stamps a year is not difficult for even poor prisoners to come by (I should know).

Kentucky wrote:I hear a lot of promises about when they get out, they're going to set up a church, and when they get out I never hear from them again. I could be discouraged, but I think that if just one of these guys turns out like Bill, then it will have all been worth it.


Well, thanks, Mark, I am humbled. But there is a difference, I think, between what I have done and what most prisoners do. A lot of men in prison simply need an identity. ANY identity. They hook up with others out of their own insecurity. Sometimes they have to hook up with a group, for protection from the alien masses. Whether it be CI or Asatru, or Aryan Nations or Aryan Brotherhood, they need to belong to something. That is also why so many men leave prison covered with tattoos. As soon as they get out, they move onto whatever new opportunity they have, and forget what they were (or THOUGHT they were) in prison.

I was not of that sort. I did not seek out Christian Identity. Rather, it found me. But once it did, I felt as though I had to prove it out. The results of that proof is why I am here. I was already 20 months into my CI studies before Clifton finally acknowledged one of my letters, the second time I wrote to him to correct him on the identity of the Phoenicians.

Kentucky wrote:It's like being a missionary to our own people who don't want what we have to give them, whatever station in life they have. We merely plant the seed or give them a legal notice (that ignorance is no excuse of the law) and God does the choosing of when it is the appointed time for their calling in life. When somebody rejects the Good News of the Word, there's always somebody else who hasn't heard it yet and we move on.


After I learned enough, I offered CI truth to just about every White man I met in prison. For a few years I held a Bible study in the library or on the rec yard. I probably spoke at length to hundreds of guys, most of whom are now on the outside. Of all the men I knew in prison who spoke to me regularly, only 3 or maybe 4 stuck to the message. One of them is on this forum. He and I learned about CI at the same time, from another man whom neither of us have heard from since shortly after he got out. One other is often in the program chats, but he is not signed up here. Two out of two thousand is about the right ratio, when one considers some of the Old Testament accounts, such as Gideon's 300 out of 30,000, or the 7,000 men of Elijah's time.

To get back onto the topic at hand, at least in some degree.

The biggest problem I found in years of talking to the Asatru crowd is morality. I am not saying that all of them are immoral. But for almost all of the guys I spoke to who were Asatru and who could not accept CI, the hurdle was morality. They could not accept that they should not sleep around, or be able to sleep with someone of another race if they chose to. They could not accept a standard of sobriety. (I don't see a problem with drinking a couple of beers or a couple of glasses of wine, but I have a huge problem with those who become intoxicated.) They could not argue with me about history or the veracity of the Bible, but they refused it on this basis alone: that they would not accept Christian morality.
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Re: "Best" countries are the immoral ones

Postby GermanSaxon » Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:24 am

Bill Said:

"They could not argue with me about history or the veracity of the Bible, but they refused it on this basis alone: that they would not accept Christian morality."

I find the same issue with our Judeo-Christian people. Jesus is OK for funerals, he is ok for Christening of babies and we must not forget Christmas & Easter. But morals- keep out of my life if you are going to preach Christian Morals. I had a brother tell me the other day about a friend who was telling him how great this new bible study was he heard the night before after telling him that he had spent the day looking at porn.

So just as you said Bill about the Astru people applies today to many Judeo-Christians today:

"They could not argue with me about history or the veracity of the Bible, but they refused it on this basis alone: that they would not accept Christian morality."

AKA- Jesus died for my sins so I can do what I want and be what I want.

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Re: "Best" countries are the immoral ones

Postby SwordBrethren » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:48 am

GermanSaxon wrote:

AKA- Jesus died for my sins so I can do what I want and be what I want.

German Saxon




Jesus didn't die so they could return to backsliding and live the life of a drunken profligate engaged in fornication and idolatry.
Revelation 18:
Und ich hörte eine andere Stimme vom Himmel, die sprach: Gehet aus von ihr, mein Volk, daß ihr nicht teilhaftig werdet ihrer Sünden, auf daß ihr nicht empfanget etwas von ihren Plagen!

Denn ihre Sünden reichen bis in den Himmel, und Gott denkt an ihren Frevel.


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Re: "Best" countries are the immoral ones

Postby Kentucky » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:52 am

wmfinck wrote:I probably spoke at length to hundreds of guys, most of whom are now on the outside. Of all the men I knew in prison who spoke to me regularly, only 3 or maybe 4 stuck to the message... Two out of two thousand is about the right ratio, when one considers some of the Old Testament accounts, such as Gideon's 300 out of 30,000, or the 7,000 men of Elijah's time.

Statistically that's pretty bleak. But, like you said, Christian Identity found you. We are all messengers to the lost sheep. I can only pray that the message lands on fertile ground. God has a way of fertilizing the seed that has been planted. Some people just have to wait till it hits the fan, when their life hits bottom. And the same can be said for nations.

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Re: "Best" countries are the immoral ones

Postby wmfinck » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:07 pm

Kentucky wrote:Statistically that's pretty bleak. But, like you said, Christian Identity found you. We are all messengers to the lost sheep. I can only pray that the message lands on fertile ground. God has a way of fertilizing the seed that has been planted. Some people just have to wait till it hits the fan, when their life hits bottom. And the same can be said for nations.
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Right! We have to keep moving on through the sludge, and never give up.

GermanSaxon also made a few good points, today's Judeo-(hate to call them)-Christians are no better than pagans in every way. In fact, that is an insult to even some pagans.
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Re: "Best" countries are the immoral ones

Postby Fenwick » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:26 pm

GermanSaxon wrote:I find the same issue with our Judeo-Christian people. Jesus is OK for funerals, he is ok for Christening of babies and we must not forget Christmas & Easter. But morals- keep out of my life if you are going to preach Christian Morals.


I've seen it's common for atheists to demand that if Christ was so great, Christians should be able to fix all the world's evils.

Then when we tell them how to fix them, suddenly we're the evil ones. How are we supposed to fix anything when they won't do what we tell them?



And amongst WNs, there's the "Christianity is semetic" spiel. How can you even begin to talk about things being semetic when you don't even believe Shem existed?
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Re: "Best" countries are the immoral ones

Postby GermanSaxon » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:39 pm

Sword Brethren Said
"Jesus didn't die so they could return to backsliding and live the life of a drunken profligate engaged in fornication and idolatry."

So true but they see this behavior in church or among so called Judeo-Christians and I have seen it among kindred CI brethren.

I have been working for years with several people who are just coming around to TRUE Truth. Society has become so complex but yet so broken that some of our people who wouldn't listen five years ago are starting to wake up.

As CI Christians we need kindred fellowship, networking and have to be responsible and available for our spiritual children in the Lord. That cost money and time but can result in true kingdom growth. CI is full of abandon spiritual children who fall away do to neglect.

We will be no better off than the Judeo Christians etc. until we truly "Love our kindred brother as thy self & live as that Waffen SS motto says "Mein Ehre heißt Treue - "my Honour is Loyalty."

And no, I have not arrived, I have many regrets, but it is this goal above that I strive for in my Christian walk. May my kindred brothers & sisters help me up when I fall in the ditch of wasted life.

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