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Lang wrote:That the old testament has no value anymore after Jesus died in the cross.
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil" (Matthew 5:17). (Matthew 10:5).
Nayto wrote:There is a group of White judeo-christians where I work, and religious discussions often arise (very relaxed work environment). I take a stealthy approach and try to plant a seed here and there. I mentioned where Christ said "sell your cloak and buy a sword". One of the more prominent ones then asked me, "But is that in the New Testament?"
Amazing.
Lang wrote:That lie typically said when someone dies - "theres no need to cry or sadness, for right now he/she is in the Heaven with the Lord".
Thats not what Bible says:
"For the grave cannot praise thee, death cannot celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth" (Is. 38:18).
"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it was thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return" (Gen. 3:19).
"So man lieth down, and riseth not; till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep" (Job 14:12).
"Consider and hear me, O Lord my God; lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death" (Ps. 13:3).
"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake..." (Dan. 12:2).
I never know what to make of things like this. I just hope that the general outline given by Bill, that all Israel is saved, is correct, and it certainly seems to be. Any detail like the foregoing has to be understood in terms of the general genetic and salvific outline. And it feels right. Perhaps people feel sad at a death (of a fellow Adamic) because that is after all the punishment that is due to us, and it is a sad thing, is it not? To be together, and then forcibly separated? Bill's work always checks out and makes eminent sense, and fits the world as we find it. We can't all be scholars!
This thread is inspired by the book titled Are the Dead Alive Now? By Victor Paul Wierwille.
I believe this book makes a good case that God’s Word teaches that “God is NOT the God of the dead, he is the God of the Living.” Life after death is the original lie of the Adversary “you shall NOT surely die.” It’s the Pagan Gods that the House of Israel went whoring after that teaches in life after death, the afterlife, the underworld, the book of the dead, etc.
God’s Word teaches in life after resurrection from the dead and there is only ONE person raised from the dead with eternal life spiritual body – Jesus Christ.
The verses in the Bible that seem to teach otherwise are misquoted or understood.
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