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Postby Gideon300 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:13 am

I have observed at times in amazement, for lack of a better way to describe it, the despicable Judeo-Christian televangelist network that calls itself the Trinity Broadcasting Network over the years and although I always was put off by the founders, Paul and Jan Crouch (her of the giant pink hair and gobs of makeup), having become an Identity Christian the entire mess is even more repulsive to consider.

I didn't plan on making a thread about this originally, but was only going to post a photo of Paul Crouch on another thread here at the forum where the topic of Aryan and non-Aryan facial features had come up. The reason I was going to do that is because although I don't know whether it means anything for certain, I had noticed that Crouch has what can only be described as a hooked nose when seen in profile particularly. Is the founder of this worldwide Judeo-Christian TV empire Jewish? I won't pretend to know one way or the other; though it's definitely not out of the question. Besides his appearance, it's well known that he and his wife live in the epitome of over the top, ostentatious luxury, as do several of the most well known personalities who have programs on the TBN network.

The reason I ended up feeling compelled to make a new thread about this is pretty peculiar and I honestly don't know what to make of it or that I should attribute too much significance to it other than to note what an undeniably strange coincidence it represents if nothing else. That is, when I was looking for a recent photo of Paul Crouch on the net, I found one of him that apparently surfaced last year where in a still from a studio monitor he's seen wearing a clerical collar and flipping off the camera which it's said he assumed wasn't on at the moment. So I saved that for what it's worth and a couple others that show him wearing that same collar recently. That's when I thought I'd go ahead and see if I could find another photo of the main Crouch mansion in California (reportedly one of thirteen they own altogether around the world, along with private jets and luxury cars, etc.) I'd seen before and posted about in the CI subforum at Stormfront a while back.

I came across a site that featured an image of the mansion that is from Bing Maps. I use Firefox net browser and one of the add ons I have installed for it is the Fire Shot screen capture. Been using that for a year or more now and hadn't ever really paid attention to how it had been numbering all the images I've saved with it since first installing it. Getting to the point finally, when I used it to capture the Bing Maps image of the ginormous Crouch mansion, it caught my eye that the image label generated was: FireShot Screen Capture #666. Yahweh as my witness that is the absolute truth. I thought maybe the website page I got it from had numbered it that way or something, but checking the last two Fire Shot screen captures I had, they were numbers 664 and 665, only I didn't notice or have any reason to.

I'm not implying anything specifically about that happening in that way, only to relate how weird it worked out. Still it's hard not to ponder as to whether there is some kind of significance to it, even as I caution myself not to presume anything regarding Yahweh giving me or anyone reading this, now that I've posted it here, some kind of sign; particularly because I don't want to make it seem like I think I'm special and that Yahweh talks to me or anything of that nature. Not like I'm Pat Robertson. Remember how not one, not two, but three years in a row he announced God had told him that something was going to happen that year (one was a terror attack on the US, another the US getting hit by a gigantic tsunami and I forget the third one), and not one of them came to pass as "God had told him it would." Would seem that it wasn't God talking to Pat after all. Go figure.

Here are the pictures anyway that I ended up with and which led to this thread and the 666 reference -

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Still hoping this doesn't make members think I'm a kook or anything (too late -?) ;) But one last bit of number strangeness was that I'd forgotten about the max pixel width restriction on this forum software and so had to open Photoshop to resize the (#666) Crouch mansion picture and just by chance the original width of my screen capture of that was 777 pixels. Don't know if that number has any Biblical significance admittedly, only that it caught my eye and struck me as a coincidence all its own, seeing as how you grab screenshots with Fire Shot by expanding a frame you pull across the screen until you have the area you wish to save and then click your mouse. I had noticed some "Creativity" religion members at Stormfront using the number 777 before but as I said, I don't know what's meant by it.

All numbers and coincidences/signs aside, what I would say in closing about TBN and its slavish Jewish worship almost and programs such as Sid Roth, who calls himself a "Messianic Jew," their Israeli flags, setting up that studio overlooking the Dome of the Rock and all the too numerous to mention things like that, is that notice that they are granted access to all the Jewish owned cable and satellite systems and via those they broadcast their Judeo-Christian message and never ending appeals for donations around the world 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. As it is with virtually everything that goes out across the land and planet on the "Jewtube," TBN has been deemed worthy to be made available for the masses, along with the secular programming, virtually all of which is produced by one of three enormous Jewish run enterprises, Viacom, Disney/ABC and A&E Networks, with their "History" channels with their maybe hundreds of documentaries about their version of WWII and the Third Reich for example. Not even considering the totally debauched, nearly pornographic content available on "premium channels" such as HBO, Showtime and more, the same systems carry many Jewish produced programs for children that feature race mixing and suggestive situations, and the ever increasing in graphic content, sex and violence filled network movies and TV programs, blasphemous Jewish and other comedians and very popular animated programs such as Family Guy.

Sometimes it all seems like a bad dream, living in these times. It will get even worse still over time yet. I'll cite Christ's message from the Christogenea New Testament regarding how in spite of everything, we must endure to the end -

"For brother shall hand over brother unto death, and father child, and children shall rise up against parents and shall slay them. And you shall be hated by all on account of My Name, but he abiding to the end shall be saved." - Matthew 10:24
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Re: TBN Empire

Postby Gideon300 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:08 pm

One of the more outlandish things TBN has done is to create "The Holy Land Experience" theme park in Orlando, Florida -


From the video:
"You'll even have the opportunity to experience Holy Communion in a unique setting reminiscent of the Last Supper ..."

That sounds so uplifting (not). So, this is all free, right? Since the point is to spread the gospel and all? Not so fast, pilgrim -

http://www.holylandexperience.com/tickets/tickets.html

Adult (13+) One-Day Ticket: $40


Don't have the cash on hand, but still wishing to experience the love of Jesus (as portrayed by Holy Land Experience actors)? "Let not your heart be troubled," as they accept all major credit cards -
The Holy Land Experience accepts Visa, Mastercard, American Express, and Discover cards.
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Nothing brings one closer to Jesus (as portrayed by Holy Land Experience actors) than seeing a foam rock being mechanically rolled away from a fiberglass tomb at regular intervals as jets from nearby Orlando International Airport pass overhead and the amplified dialogue and music compete with the din of adjacent Interstate 4.

If all the waiting in lines and walking around in Central Florida heat and humidity work up an appetite, feed your face and/or flock at "Simeon's Corner" where they feature "Hot dogs, corn dogs, nachos and refreshments," before browsing for gifts at the "Shofar Shop" and several other opportunities to experience making money depart from your pocket or bank account.






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Re: TBN Empire

Postby Kentucky » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:20 pm

Gideon300 wrote:Is the founder of this worldwide Judeo-Christian TV empire Jewish?

I've kept my eye on TBN for years also and I've never heard him say he's jewish. However, he is a sodomite as he was sued several years ago by his black chauffeur and was paid a handsome settlement out of court to keep his mouth shut. Jan, on the other hand, has admitted on several occasions that she is jewish on the PTL show. It would only be logical then, that he is too.

I'm not implying anything specifically about that happening in that way, only to relate how weird it worked out. Still it's hard not to ponder as to whether there is some kind of significance to it, even as I caution myself not to presume anything regarding Yahweh giving me or anyone reading this, now that I've posted it here, some kind of sign; particularly because I don't want to make it seem like I think I'm special and that Yahweh talks to me or anything of that nature.

It is significant, because that's how God works sometimes. Remember that small still voice? Had you not shared that with anyone, His way of confirming the enemy would have been lost. Thank you for sharing.

Still hoping this doesn't make members think I'm a kook or anything (too late -?) ;) But one last bit of number strangeness was that I'd forgotten about the max pixel width restriction on this forum software and so had to open Photoshop to resize the (#666) Crouch mansion picture and just by chance the original width of my screen capture of that was 777 pixels. Don't know if that number has any Biblical significance admittedly, only that it caught my eye and struck me as a coincidence all its own, seeing as how you grab screenshots with Fire Shot by expanding a frame you pull across the screen until you have the area you wish to save and then click your mouse. I had noticed some "Creativity" religion members at Stormfront using the number 777 before but as I said, I don't know what's meant by it.

The number 7 denotes spiritual perfection; 777 means the fullness of spiritual perfection completed in the life, death and resurrection of Christ. The revelations we get concerning the fullness of the works of man i.e. 666 are witnessed by Christ (777) to us. "The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy" Rev. 19:10. Perhaps this little demonstration of what would otherwise be considered coincidence by a secular mind, is God telling us that the fall of the false TBN prophet is immanent... or any other low life shepherds that disgrace the Word. I hope so anyway.

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Re: TBN Empire

Postby Staropramen » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:08 pm

Kentucky wrote:
I'm not implying anything specifically about that happening in that way, only to relate how weird it worked out. Still it's hard not to ponder as to whether there is some kind of significance to it, even as I caution myself not to presume anything regarding Yahweh giving me or anyone reading this, now that I've posted it here, some kind of sign; particularly because I don't want to make it seem like I think I'm special and that Yahweh talks to me or anything of that nature.


It is significant, because that's how God works sometimes. Remember that small still voice? Had you not shared that with anyone, His way of confirming the enemy would have been lost. Thank you for sharing.


I agree with Pastor Mark. It's [seemingly] happening to me right now. Every Saturday night as of late the kikes upstairs have a satanic black mass. It usually starts around 9:00pm with the matriarchal sow doing a few laps around the dining room to wake me up. Then a orgie of jumping and moaning begins and lasts about 15 minutes. If you've ever seen one of those islamic beheading videos the moaning and chanting is very similar. Afterwards all the devils quickly exit the premises and it's dead quiet. I got up in the middle of this and connected my ipod to my computer to charge the battery. It was going haywire, acting all erratic, syncing and disconnecting, not recognising my ipod at all. It may have been a confirmation that curses directed at me were flying all over upstairs and Yahweh allowed this to effect the behavior of the technology that I was using to affirm my suspicions. Once the devils were gone everything worked as it should.

I can only pray that Yahweh sends more death angels to this plague of beasts. Amen.

I might also add that I started to respond to this thread this afternoon but got pulled away by something else. The time wasn't right perhaps?
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Re: TBN Empire

Postby Staropramen » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:21 am

Lol! The kikes must be reading this thread! Last night this jew came into my place of employment and started performing some sort of ritual in the area where I normally work. Rocking back and forth and chanting, waving his hands in the air and what not. Occasionally he did a little dance. I'm guessing that he was trying to put a curse on the area or something. Eventually they tossed him out. Let's all pray that Yahweh sends another death van for this one!
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Re: TBN Empire

Postby Les » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:13 pm

I used to watch TBN in the 1990s. Some of it was entertaining. ANYONE with enough sense will see through the charade and be offended by the majority of their broadcasts.
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Re: TBN Empire

Postby Staropramen » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:07 pm

Kentucky wrote:I've kept my eye on TBN for years.....


Your descriptions in your sermons including the funny voice imitations should be dubbed over TBN's signal "for the spirit impaired". :lol:
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Re: TBN Empire

Postby ElleJay » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:25 pm

Paul Crouch claims roots coming from Ulrich Zwingli, of Reformation Fame. I would say they bear no resemblance. Of course, there are a lot of years between Zwingli and Crouch. ;)

http://www.reformationtours.com/site/490868/page/629552 is a link that has a little history and pictures of Zwingli.

To diverge a little bit, I would have been classified as a Judeo-Christian at one time. I cannot paint all of them with the same broad brush, because there are some of us who searched the scriptures to see if what we were taught was so. Churchianity is so much like the Public School System. I think of history especially, a class that we took year after year, and each new year I looked forward to it, yet not far into each year, I was always disappointed. I could not tell you why, then, but now I realize there was no continuity to the roots of God's Israel people with the history we were taught. We were not taught why history mattered. Without that, it is empty and unsatisfying. But I digress ... yet the connection is an easy one to see. Churchianity is the same. It lacks (among other things) that continuity ... that Scarlet Thread that takes one from the Alpha to the Omega. That connection, as you all know, is seriously lacking. Once you discover the Truth of who Israel is, then the Bible and history have meaning, and they are entwined.

What I really wanted to speak to, though, is the Charismatic Movement, because it is more than the non-white races who have been drawn into that heresy (a doctrine of devils, as I see it). As a Christian, I wanted to be like David and be a woman after God's own heart. My desire was to grow in Christ. I wanted more ... I wanted all that Christ had for me. There was something missing, but I was not sure what it was at that point. Also, it seemed that these people within the Charismatic Movement had something extra ... something special, and, yet, I was very hesitant for a long time. I do have relatives that are in that camp, and one evening, after months of pressure, I relented and went to one of their homes where I was going get that "something extra."

If it is true, (and I am speaking of the "gift of tongues" so called) that this is a gift from God, then why must one be prodded and coached to let himself go and simply begin babbling anything that comes to mind ... anything nonsensical, because it is the way you learn to have "the gift." I know that something happened ... I know that night was deeply emotional, but I also know that the next morning when I awakened, what happened the night before left me feeling like I was in a dark place. That emotional high was gone, and I had a deep sense that something was dreadfully wrong ... that I had participated in something not of God. So I went where one should always go ... to the Word of Yahweh, our God. I already knew so many of the passages that I should never have ignored which proved that what was going on the night before, as well as in the charismatic churches, was WRONG!

You might think that this was an easy process, to go to the Scriptures ... to seek the Truth, but my mind was cluttered. I could not think clearly. "Words" were going through my mind, causing confusion. I prayed that God would, by the power of the Holy Spirit, diminish those unknown syllables, clear my mind, and guide me into all Truth ... teach me Truth ... show me if what had gone on the night before was wrong or not. Eventually I had a list of passages that showed me ... that reinforced ... what I already knew in my heart ... some of which I had "hidden" in my heart, and I really knew better! God is not the author of confusion. If this was truly a gift from God, then I was working to earn that gift in a sense. It could not have been a gift ... for I would never need a class to learn how to get the gift. We are emotional beings ... and we are warned over and over again not to be deceived ... and, if it were possible, even the very elect might be deceived. But I believe the very elect will search out a matter and find the Truth, wherever it leads.

False teachers are rife within churchianity today. Heresy reigns ... and the people love to have it so ... and, yet, I know there are others like me, who traveled that road, and came out from among them. There are others traveling it now, and they will know the Truth, and the Truth will set them free.

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Re: TBN Empire

Postby Kentucky » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:09 am

ElleJay wrote:If it is true, (and I am speaking of the "gift of tongues" so called) that this is a gift from God, then why must one be prodded and coached to let himself go and simply begin babbling anything that comes to mind ... anything nonsensical, because it is the way you learn to have "the gift." I know that something happened ... I know that night was deeply emotional, but I also know that the next morning when I awakened, what happened the night before left me feeling like I was in a dark place. That emotional high was gone, and I had a deep sense that something was dreadfully wrong ... that I had participated in something not of God. So I went where one should always go ... to the Word of Yahweh, our God. I already knew so many of the passages that I should never have ignored which proved that what was going on the night before, as well as in the charismatic churches, was WRONG!

Great post! Mind control has always been an interesting subject for me. Hypnotism has come a long way over time; to the point where I now think it is used profusely in religion, in mass media and in governments. There's always been those who want to manipulate others and the best way to do that is to the exclusion of the truth. Couple that with the divine hand of God and those who refuse the truth i.e. believe a lie, then, "For this cause God shall send them strong delusion" II Thes. 2:10-11. I'm happy you saw the Light and came out of that dark charismatic pit rather quickly.

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Re: TBN Empire

Postby ElleJay » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:43 pm

Mark,

I agree with you wholeheartedly that mind control is going on within Churchianity. Although there is nothing new under the sun, the Emerging Church Movement is the "newest" kid on the block. It may be called other things, but the elements are there nonetheless.

My experience I wrote about above happened in the late 1970's. I was rather naive about Christian bookstores at the time, and thought whenever I walked into a bookstore, I was in a little corner of heaven. In the early 1980's I picked up a book by Richard Foster called Celebration of Discipline. There was a section on prayer ... where he asked the reader to sit in a relaxed mode, with the palms of his hands face up ... and simply let go ... let everything flow from his palms ... etc. Suddenly I knew that the author was asking me, the reader, to participate in something that sounded very much akin to Eastern religion. I closed the book and never picked it up again. (I hope I threw it into the trash heap!) Today, Richard Foster's books are front and center within the Emergent Church.

A few years ago some friends were getting very excited about something called "The Walk to Emmaus." I hadn't a clue as to what it was, so I went to the Internet. It was not easy to uncover negatives, and the attendees were never to share what went on within these Walk to Emmaus' Retreats for "Christians." What I learned was very disturbing. One is not allowed to take a Bible when they attend (which was a HUGE red flag for me) ... and must be dropped off. If there is an emergency and a person needs to leave, they msut go with a special chaperone. No watches allowed. These were simply more red flags for me.

After one of these retreats, one of my friends who attended (and whom I forewarned) shared with me what happened over the long weekend, and was so excited that nothing I had warned her of went on ... but, oh ... it did ... all of it did and then some. She could not even see it when she was relating her story to me.

The attendees (all females at this one) stayed in a small dormitory-like room. I know there were at least 4 ladies assigned to a room, but it may have been six, and only one bathroom to share. But the issue was, they were only to have 30 minutes to all get ready. My friend did rise a little early the first morning. Without alarms and watches, to do that would mean a rather sleepless night. I believe it was on morning three the ladies were required to remain in bed until exactly 30 minutes before they were due in for breakfast. They were chaperoned to make sure they complied!!! My friend takes great care in getting ready for anything, so in a sense, this would cause her some humiliation, because she could not present herself as she would like, but she went along with it ... as did everyone. Before every meal they were required to sing a silly song and flap their arms ... and perhaps there were other motions that went with it. They were not allowed to eat a meal unless they sang this little diddie. I would consider both of these things brain-washing techniques.

Walk to Emmaus is the Methodist Church United's form of "de colores." You may have spotted the stickers on cars that say "de colores" and have a little rainbow with the words. These factions are a part of the larger Emerging Church.

I am always amazed at some of the conversations I have with folks who have no idea they are following another Gospel. I believe one of the worst things that led to the great deception going on within Churchianity is tied to the belief that the Old Testament is not valid for today ... only the New is relevant. One must always be armed with New Testament verses to even begin to relate to so many who haven't a clue they are listening to false teachers because they are biblically illiterate. I listened to a message recently about the "milk of the gospel." The speaker said sometimes we think we are giving people milk, but to them it is really meat. I agree! So many of our people out there in Churchianity are not even ready for the milk ... the whole milk of the Word. I am not sure they are even ready for the fat free.

Of course, the Charismatic Movement has been very integral in presenting false doctrines through humiliation. You are not a Christian in their eyes if you do not speak in tongues. Rolling in the aisles and quacking like a duck shows just how spiritual one really is. Health and wealth is yours ... if not ... then you are at fault because you do not have enough faith ... and on and on and on.

I think I best be off ... before I rattle on and on and on. :) Your words have encouraged me to write more as you can see ... That was my first post ... now I have a second one :o.
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