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List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Staropramen » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:35 pm

Rereading Isaiah 29:22 from the Septuagint something occurred to me.

22. "Therefore thus saith the Lord concerning the house of Jacob, whom he set apart from Abraam, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall he now change countenance."

How could the jews be Israel if collectively Israel can be described as ashamed? It's extremely difficult to imagine even one jew being ashamed let alone the whole lot of them. Of course guilt is something that has been cultivated in us, true Israel as a result of our disobedience in allowing demon jews in our midst.
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Staropramen » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:52 pm

Lang wrote:These judeo-christians are the most annoying group of society nowadays. They don't argue with you, they just keep repeating their stuff and buzzwords like idiots. Most times they don't even realize the meaning of what they are talking about, they just say it according to the common sense of the church.



The other day a thread appeared on this music site about Bob Dylan's "born again" phase. It was chock full of nonsense and after four pages I couldn't resist and briefly and carefully explained why it is incorrect to call Jesus and the apostles "jews". My post was in response to a fellow that claimed that his father was the greatest preacher he ever knew. And yet, after reading my post he got the idea that I was claiming that Jesus is an Edomite! The brain shuts down in judeo-christian voodoo huts.

Btw, that guy from my wife's church never responded to any of my criticisms of his silly papers. Yesterday he sent me a book called "The Bait of Satan" by John Bevere. Looking over the cover it's a book about how to deal with being offended, even deeply. He must still be in denial about the great wealth of scriptural Truth presented here at Christogenea so he sent me a "fix-a-hater" manual.

Has anyone read this Bait of Satan book? Is it of any value on the subject matter despite the fact that it's irrelevant to my theological perspective?
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby MichaelAllen » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:56 pm

Staropramen wrote:
Lang wrote:These judeo-christians are the most annoying group of society nowadays. They don't argue with you, they just keep repeating their stuff and buzzwords like idiots. Most times they don't even realize the meaning of what they are talking about, they just say it according to the common sense of the church.



The other day a thread appeared on this music site about Bob Dylan's "born again" phase. It was chock full of nonsense and after four pages I couldn't resist and briefly and carefully explained why it is incorrect to call Jesus and the apostles "jews". My post was in response to a fellow that claimed that his father was the greatest preacher he ever knew. And yet, after reading my post he got the idea that I was claiming that Jesus is an Edomite! The brain shuts down in judeo-christian voodoo huts.

Btw, that guy from my wife's church never responded to any of my criticisms of his silly papers. Yesterday he sent me a book called "The Bait of Satan" by John Bevere. Looking over the cover it's a book about how to deal with being offended, even deeply. He must still be in denial about the great wealth of scriptural Truth presented here at Christogenea so he sent me a "fix-a-hater" manual.

Has anyone read this Bait of Satan book? Is it of any value on the subject matter despite the fact that it's irrelevant to my theological perspective?




When this happens, where they just start calling you names, I turn into a smartass, but passively. I ask them with a smile on my face something like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa... are you turning the intellectual knob off now? Your response is emotional, not intellectual. I need you to turn down that emotional knob, and turn up the intellectual knob and think through what I'm telling you because the ramification of what I'm trying to get you to see here are much further in magnitude than what we were all taught in the mainstream/evangelical line of thought. And if I'm wrong, I'll repent and change my thinking. I've done it before plenty of times and I can do it again, but I need you to come at me with definitive academia and sound intellect, and when you're tempted to call me racist, or call me whatever, just remember, that's not academic or intellectual... it's just your trained response from an already immoral culture we're engulfed in."

In your case, you could just change it up and say that criticizing someone's understanding doesn't mean that you don't care for them personally, or think that they have some redeeming qualities (unless they are personally engaged in gross violations of the laws of Yahweh). People get their feelings hurt way too easily.

You'd be surprised how often that direct approach works too.
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Kentucky » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:28 pm

MichaelAllen wrote:You'd be surprised how often that direct approach works too.

Always looking for new approaches. Unfortunately, nobody has found the silver bullet that transmits our Identity truth to any given target market. Plant the seed - set the example.

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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby MichaelAllen » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:25 am

Kentucky wrote:
MichaelAllen wrote:You'd be surprised how often that direct approach works too.

Always looking for new approaches. Unfortunately, nobody has found the silver bullet that transmits our Identity truth to any given target market. Plant the seed - set the example.

Mark



It most often works on people my own age who are part of the smart-aleck culture and already know my personality. If I tried this on someone over 45, I would deserve to be popped in the nose on principle!!
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Kentucky » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:31 pm

MichaelAllen wrote:
Kentucky wrote:
MichaelAllen wrote:You'd be surprised how often that direct approach works too.

Always looking for new approaches. Unfortunately, nobody has found the silver bullet that transmits our Identity truth to any given target market. Plant the seed - set the example.

Mark



It most often works on people my own age who are part of the smart-aleck culture and already know my personality. If I tried this on someone over 45, I would deserve to be popped in the nose on principle!!

Demographics duly noted... lol


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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Staropramen » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:25 pm

MichaelAllen wrote:In your case, you could just change it up and say that criticizing someone's understanding doesn't mean that you don't care for them personally, or think that they have some redeeming qualities (unless they are personally engaged in gross violations of the laws of Yahweh). People get their feelings hurt way too easily.

You'd be surprised how often that direct approach works too.


I was very clear in my communications that I didn't have any personal issues with the guy. But I was firm in communicating my belief that he is a destroyer of Yahweh's people. When I'm accused of that I make my case that the jews are not God's people. I don't get insulted and I certainly don't run away. The simple fact that I spent like 10 hours formulating responses should communicate some degree of genuine Christian agape on my part. On the other hand I received no such respect or honesty, only two paragraphs of emotional hysteria and additions to God's Word. This fellow stated;

Allen you are a sinner you need Jesus to cleanse from all hate, murder, envy, contention, strife, idolatry, heresies and racism


When my wife read this she immediately said to me "he added racism, that's not in the bible". I said to her, "see, that's adding to scripture, something that is expressly forbidden in the book of Revelation". So I am encouraging her to continue to seek out others that will be up to the task to refuting CI. Little by little she will see that they are all liars and frauds.
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Staropramen » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:37 pm

Btw, my wife knows this doctor from her former church that she was planning to enlist to set me straight. We received a Christmas card from her with a picture of her daughter, who already has a daughter from a non-white who ditched them after a short time. This doctor's daughter has now married a mexican squat monster. A photo of them was included in the card. Oh, and the doctor's ex-husband is now married to a man. There was also a picture of the whole bunch including the queer ex-husband's husband. With a Christmas card! So this should be interesting. The average church going idiot would think, "she's a doctor and you work in a supermarket, obviously she must know better" right? And yet you see how far a doctor can fall? Pathetic.
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Staropramen » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:56 am

Another chip was taken from the wall that is blinding my wife the other morning. She has been a long time listener to Thru The Bible radio hosted by Dr. J Vernon McGee. She has alot of respect for him as I did before I came to CI. As reported earlier in the thread, her friend that I met with misunderstood Philippians 1:15 as saying that Paul was reporting about those that preach with envy and strife in their hearts. This interpretation makes no sense in the context of the surrounding verses. Bill's translation clarifies the proper meaning which harmonizes with the context. Vernon McGee made the very same mistake on the radio the other morning and I immediately pointed that out to her. He pontificated on the wrong meaning for almost 10 minutes!
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Re: List of Impossible Beliefs Held by Judeo Christians

Postby Acrimonious » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:46 pm

I'm glad to see that your wife is shedding some of the apostate shackles. She's got a good head on her shoulders, but we are easily led astray, as Scripture effortlessly demonstrates.
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