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Esau, the false Jacob?

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Esau, the false Jacob?

Postby FALSEPROPHET » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:16 pm

We are taught that Esau was Jacob's twin brother; but lately I've been wondering if this was actually the case. Maybe he was just some wandering descendant of Cain who followed Jacob around, and then tricked the Edomites into believing that he was Jacob's twin. Who's to say that he just didn't blatantly lie to the people and tell the that he himself was actually Jacob, the great one? Just as the Edomites are the false Israel, perhaps Esau was the false Jacob.
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Re: Esau, the false Jacob?

Postby wmfinck » Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:12 pm

Well, a lot of us strive to believe that real White people cannot be screw-ups. Esau forsook his birthright, because, he race-mixed, and even when his father told him so he could still not bring himself to find a legitimate wife so that he could have an heir.

Judah also race mixed, but Yahweh had a promise to Judah's father, that there would be twelve tribes in Israel, and so Yahweh arranged for Judah to have White sons through Tamar. Judah was luckier than Esau, because he was on the fortunate side of God's provenance.

Today, there are millions of Eves and millions of Esaus, all sleeping with the enemies of our God. Yes, White people can sin, and they too will suffer its conseqeunces!
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Re: Esau, the false Jacob?

Postby FALSEPROPHET » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:51 pm

Very good points indeed. But since Esau was most likely of the Cain-Satanic seedline, how could he be white? And believe me, in my personal vision of Esau, he is not White; try more like Judd Hirsch, but with small stubby horns protruding from out of his wrinkled forehead.
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Re: Esau, the false Jacob?

Postby wmfinck » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:43 pm

PROPHET wrote:Very good points indeed. But since Esau was most likely of the Cain-Satanic seedline, how could he be white? And believe me, in my personal vision of Esau, he is not White; try more like Judd Hirsch, but with small stubby horns protruding from out of his wrinkled forehead.


Please read my paper, On Biblical Exegesis, posted here in this forum: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=222&hilit=exegesis

I really do not take kindly to people who make up their own Scripture, so I will challenge you for Biblical or Historical citations.

I do not have time for clowns who claim some special knowledge through visions, which are a dime a dozen. They are all a waste of my time.

If you are really a prophet, you will prove it through actions, not with bullshit.

Hebrews 1:1-2:
I 1 On many occasions and in many ways in past times Yahweh had spoken to the fathers by the prophets. 2 At the end of these days He speaks to us by a Son, whom He has appointed heir of all, through whom He also made the ages.
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Re: Esau, the false Jacob?

Postby FALSEPROPHET » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:20 am

Okay pal, I don't have time for vicious attacks either. I thougt I could express my ideas freely here. This was the last place I expected to be judged. Please delete my account from your piece of shit website immediately. No way do I want to be affiliated with someone who treats his own kind in this way.
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Re: Esau, the false Jacob?

Postby wmfinck » Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:48 am

FALSEPROPHET wrote:Okay pal, I don't have time for vicious attacks either. I thougt I could express my ideas freely here. This was the last place I expected to be judged. Please delete my account from your piece of shit website immediately. No way do I want to be affiliated with someone who treats his own kind in this way.


That is the problem. You are not an honest inquirer, you want to express your own ideas, which you admit in your own words, and expect me to accept your own professed "personal vision" over Scripture.

There is not ONE place in Scripture ANYWHERE that indicates that Esau was not the son of Isaac and Rachel.

I made no "vicious attacks" at you, I only offered honest observations. If you cannot take it, you must be a girl, and no man.

This is a Christian forum, and therefore it is Christian Scripture which rules, not your "personal vison". How the hell can you expect me to judge Scripture in line with YOUR "personal vison" that is contrary to Scripture?

I do not know what you thought you were getting yourself into when you signed up here, but this is not a new-age freak show. Take your "personal vision" and go sell it to some jew.

2 Peter 1:19-21 wrote:19 And we have a more certain word of prophecy, which you do well holding to as a light shining in a squalid place, until which day it should dawn and the Light-bearer should arise in your hearts, 20 knowing this first, that any prophecy of Scripture must not be of peculiar explanation, 21 for not at any time has prophecy been produced by the will of man, but being produced by the Holy Spirit men had spoken from Yahweh.
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Re: Esau, the false Jacob?

Postby Gallowglass » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:37 am

wow...Prophet removed his mask.And it's stupid to think that Esau was non-white for the fact that he race mixed and also he was Jacob's twin brother so that mean he was white.You're saying that white people can't screw up,that's simply not true. Look at the world today,stupid whites are race mixing like never before and mongrel bastards are being born. Esau was what we would call 'white trash' he was a traitor to his people and to God.
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Re: Esau, the false Jacob?

Postby wmfinck » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:26 pm

Right, Gallowglass! It is incredible that people would want to make up their own Bible, dismissing centuries of the testimonies of God because they cannot deal with the Bible that we have.

Prophet is too blinded by his own ego and agenda to realize that he made the first insult: claiming to have some special knowledge through visions, and putting himself above the Word of God, he is revealed to be an idiot just for thinking I would fall for that trash.

Prophet, I know you will see this: Repent!!!
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