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Ciaccona

Examples of White, and especially White and Christian, entertainment - that we can still create art and music without the schlock of the jews and negroes and other aliens.

Re: Ciaccona

Postby Teutonic » Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:29 pm

Joe what are the names of those two pieces you posted? Judging from the comments i looked up 'Nicola Mattheis Ciaccona' on Youtube, but for some reason i can never view videos posted on this forum.
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Re: Ciaccona

Postby Meggie » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:17 pm

Kentucky wrote: What rap music [sic] is to most White people, bagpipes is to black people...


I agree with you Pastor, "rap music" is an oxymoron right up there with "chaste trollop." I, too love Classical Music.
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Re: Ciaccona

Postby EzraLB » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:48 pm

Of Nicola Matteis, the English 17th Century diarist, John Evelyn, wrote:

"I heard that stupendious Violin Signor Nichola (with other rare Musitians) whom certainly never mortal man Exceeded on that instrument, he had a stroak so sweete, & made it speake like the Voice of a man; & when he pleased, like a Consort of severall Instruments: he did wonders upon a Note: was an excellent Composer also. Nothing approch'd the violin in Nicholas' hand: he seem'd to be spiritato'd & plaied such ravishing things on a ground as astonishd us all."

Interestingly, Matteis had all but been forgotten until he was rediscovered in the 20th Century. Perhaps marrying a rich widow and neglecting his musical talents contributed to his fading into obscurity for so long.

http://www.gramophone.co.uk/review/nico ... the-violin
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Re: Ciaccona

Postby Teutonic » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:21 pm

EzraLB wrote:Of Nicola Matteis, the English 17th Century diarist, John Evelyn, wrote:

"I heard that stupendious Violin Signor Nichola (with other rare Musitians) whom certainly never mortal man Exceeded on that instrument, he had a stroak so sweete, & made it speake like the Voice of a man; & when he pleased, like a Consort of severall Instruments: he did wonders upon a Note: was an excellent Composer also. Nothing approch'd the violin in Nicholas' hand: he seem'd to be spiritato'd & plaied such ravishing things on a ground as astonishd us all."

Interestingly, Matteis had all but been forgotten until he was rediscovered in the 20th Century. Perhaps marrying a rich widow and neglecting his musical talents contributed to his fading into obscurity for so long.

http://www.gramophone.co.uk/review/nico ... the-violin


I had never even heard of him until now, but his Ciaccona piece is beautiful; I must have listened to it 20 times already. There's something about the darker, melodic sort of violin that puts the mind in a trance....
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Re: Ciaccona

Postby Joe » Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:42 pm

That is very interesting Ezra.

Here are the URLs, I hope this helps Teutonic. This version of Nicola Matteis' ciaccona might be different to the one you found and has a unique interpretation.

Chiacona - Tarquinio Merula - Il Giardino Armonico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmXnApYXKeU

Antonio Bertali: Ciaccona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLmskBnexGQ

Andrea Falconieri - Ciaccona - Orazio Gentileschi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbr5NQh4j8M

Diverse bizzarie Sopra la Vecchia Sarabanda ò pur Ciaccona - Nicola Matteis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eiPatUsFrc
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Re: Ciaccona

Postby Teutonic » Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:36 am

Joe wrote:That is very interesting Ezra.

Here are the URLs, I hope this helps Teutonic. This version of Nicola Matteis' ciaccona might be different to the one you found and has a unique interpretation.



Thanks Joe, it appears we both came across different versions of Matteis' 'Ciaccona'- here's mine:

https://youtu.be/uPizjFqRfmc

A short piece, but mesmerizing nonetheless.
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Re: Ciaccona

Postby Joe » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:42 am

It certainly is a darker piece, as you said ...and I know what you mean about the violin, it has the same effect on me.

All the great European instruments have a beautiful voice, the voice of non-Western instruments can be awful. It seems the earliest archaeological evidence for string instruments is in Mesopotamia ...the lyres of Ur.
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Re: Ciaccona

Postby wmfinck » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:45 am

Joe wrote:It seems the earliest archaeological evidence for string instruments is in Mesopotamia ...the lyres of Ur.


Stay away, they are satanic! The lyres of Genesis 4:21! (Well, perhaps not in the KJV) :roll:

Yes, this music is wonderful. But I like more dramatic music for my podcast preludes.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSeJA6 ... 4_-pl3HQSQ

Which I may get around to changing soon...
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Re: Ciaccona

Postby Joe » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:50 pm

When I saw 'Mesopotamia' I thought 'white people' and did not make the connection to Jubal :oops: . So now I am wondering how something which is so close to our people, classical music and instruments, could be of satan.

Perhaps it was a dishonest profession in the past, like acting or a joker. That is where you will find satan. I am sure this has been discussed before, ...I will have to look into it again.
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Re: Ciaccona

Postby wmfinck » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:39 pm

LOL, Joe, don't take it to heart! David loved those same instruments, that same music, and often used them to glorify Yahweh. The temple had ordained singers and musicians as well.
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