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A while ago many WN started talking about circumcision as part of their condemnation of the Bible. Even prominent WN have this line in their radio shows and their articles. They would say things like;

-circumcision stunts your emotional growth
-circumcision mutilates the man so that he can never be happy
-circumcision makes a man incapable of being in a healthy marriage
-circumcision is barbaric
-circumcision is to stop men raping women, to dull their instincts and vigor (even a jew says this on trutube)
-circumcision causes men to rape women because they can't have a healthy marriage (contradictory argument made by the same people)

In a way these kind-of arguments are an attempt to condemn our God and the Holy Bible. Of-course the most important aspect of this topic is that circumcision represented a great Promise from God (part of which was to multiply healthily, have many children). But still, we are forced to consider other aspects.

One might asks oneself, 'why did God instruct Abraham to circumcise himself, didn't God know it would cause him to be unhappy and unfulfilled'.

'Didn't God know it would cause Abraham to suffer'.

'Did God want Abraham to be sad and not have a good marriage?'
(I know he was old)

It fits right into their usual attempt to say that God is unjust ...the same way they whinge about acts of war and other accounts as 'savage' or 'unfair'. Apparently they have a higher moral conscience than God and have determined him to be a 'mean' Father. They will say that God is sadistic and that it is 'unhealthy' to be a Christian.
They will say that some Christians are 'stunted individuals', apparently while the new-age hippie cultist are ever closer to reaching nirvana and becoming a god. These people tend to be dumb and shallow.

Obviously God is just. That is what we know and others should learn first.

But I also want to point-out that one way to confirm whether this is true or not would be to see what men say who have been circumcised in later life. They do it for many reasons. I think most people will find that the nonsense pushed by the haters of God is based on nothing. I am not basing my opinion on one person's experience. I did a search on this some time ago and read many accounts. There was not one negative 'review'. I have saved you the time and displeasure

A bunch of idolaters, feminist and jews have tried to convict God unfairly, of-course. They have flooded the argument with so much screeching and whinging that the truth has been lost and forgotten along the way.

-circumcision stunts your emotional growth
-circumcision mutilates the man so that he can never be happy
-circumcision makes a man incapable of being in a healthy marriage
-circumcision is barbaric
-circumcision is to stop men raping women, to dull their instincts and vigor (even a jew says this on trutube)
-circumcision causes men to rape women because they can't have a healthy marriage (contradictory argument made by the same people)

This is insane, there is no logical reason for a man to be emotionally affected or incapable of having a happy marriage because of a circumcision. I'm against it for religious purpose though, the only point to which I agree is that its mutilation if done as part of a ritual. However it is also done for medical purposes. Given that, I would allow my son getting circumcized, but only if there was no other way of fixing the problem, such as fimosis.

I know that God commanded that in old testament but I disagree with it. There is no reason anymore to get circumcized as a religious practice, only if you really need it. Anyway in the new testament this practice was dismissed. This is my opinion (I am circumcized myself).

^Their argument mainly centers around the man becoming insensitive and unable to be happy in marriage. This apparently lead to emotional problems. I don't want to name names, but I have seen it everywhere in WN. It is everywhere outside WN too.

This is 100% untrue. They are trying to convict God with their petty nonsense. They just hear something and believe it because they want to. They are idiots. They think they are more intellectually and spiritually developed, they don't need the Bible. They are gods.

Heh, I was going to put a note in there, like 'you don't need to state your circumcision status'. lol

I don't think circumcision is important anymore. But some men do choose to have it done for non-medical reasons. These men have no problems whatsoever.

It is not the same as circumcising a woman, which no white man would support. Leave that to niggers and arabs. I have heard they have to do this sometime due to their corrupted beast biology. But let's not think about that too much.

Joe wrote:-circumcision stunts your emotional growth
-circumcision mutilates the man so that he can never be happy
-circumcision makes a man incapable of being in a healthy marriage
-circumcision is barbaric
-circumcision is to stop men raping women, to dull their instincts and vigor (even a jew says this on trutube)
-circumcision causes men to rape women because they can't have a healthy marriage (contradictory argument made by the same people)

I was circumcised at birth.

I am not emotionally stunted.
I'm a pretty happy guy sexually and otherwise. Always have been.
My marriage troubles have nothing to do with sex.
If it is barbaric then Yahweh is barbaric.
I don't know what this one means. Is it saying that circumcision makes the penis less sensitive and thus less capable of feeling pleasure? Mine is sensitive enough. If that were not the case I probably would have avoided a lot of trouble and sin in life.
The last one has no merit due to answer #3 above.

Men and beasts rape women because they hate them. It has nothing to do with being horny and needing a release.

It may indeed make your sensitivity a bit lower if you study it. I'm not saying absolutely nothing changes. Its not like the guy won't feel nothing and have problems because of it though. He WILL have sensitivty, maybe just a bit reduced, but to an irrelevant extent. If you think more deeply, lets say the guy is 20% less sensitive, it means he will have 20% more endurance, his wife will be happier, and both will have the same outcome in the end, and it will lead to a happier marriage. Im just saying

Joe wrote:It is not the same as circumcising a woman, which no white man would support. Leave that to niggers and arabs. I have heard they have to do this sometime due to their corrupted beast biology. But let's not think about that too much.

Female circumcision is the deliberate removal or destruction of the female clitoris which renders the woman incapable of feeling sexual pleasure. It would be a direct attack on Yahweh's creation if done to a White woman. The animal races engage in this sort of thing because the males are incapable of being men [because they are not men] and must resort to the physical destruction of that which normal men gain control over by submitting to Christ.

A Godly man has no worries that his wife will be running around behind his back. She can have a fully sexual component of her Christian being that will not cause problems in the marriage if he is subject to Christ. The animal races don't function on this plain. Male animals will have sex with any woman that bats her eyes in it's direction.

Lang wrote:If you think more deeply, lets say the guy is 20% less sensitive, it means he will have 20% more endurance, his wife will be happier, and both will have the same outcome in the end, and it will lead to a happier marriage. Im just saying

Brilliant Dr. Lang! So what you're revealing here is that godless WN's in fact can't satisfy their women due to hyper-sensitivity! That explains a lot!

This just prove that White men without Yahweh are like beasts. They are obsessed with the things of the flesh because their intellect leads nowhere. They are like creatures in two dimensions living on the surface of reality. There is no meaning in this life without Yahweh-Christ. Humanism is really the cancer of the soul.

@Lang
Those studies about sensitivity never refer to men who were circumcised in later life. These men have no issues. But it is a non issue anyways. As Bahr said, they only think of the flesh, they see salvation in the flesh ...experiencing some fleshly 'revelation' to reach 'nirvana'. Their heaven is fleshly. Their ideas are always about themselves as gods. But it is important because as I post below, they are trying to poison marriage.

@Staropramen
Great point on submitting to Christ for a good marriage. The beast races can destroy themselves, who cares, obviously. But as you said, to do this to a white woman would be disgraceful. They do try and condemn God as barbaric, they whinge about how 'cruel' God is. They become overly emotive.

Lang said

If you think more deeply, lets say the guy is 20% less sensitive, it means he will have 20% more endurance, his wife will be happier, and both will have the same outcome in the end, and it will lead to a happier marriage. Im just saying

They actually argue that without a foreskin men can no longer satisfy a woman. They say that the foreskin has an important function during sex that women need. If you go on one of these debate websites, the comment section will be flooded with women who say this exact same thing, they acknowledge that mainly white men are circumcised and go so far as to speak of their disgusting race-mixing. They say that sex with circumcised men hurts, 'evil white men oppressing and not caring about womyn's feelings'.

One site http://www.sex4sn4tureintendedit.com/ (change the '4's' to 'A's') basically condemns men who are circumcised as inferior and savage. They have no testimony from couples about before and after circumcision, just a bunch of whores condemning white men. It has to be seen to be believed.

This is from a site called 'Intactnews', it's focus is on circumcision exclusively. Basically it is a study which relies on weak correlations. It shows that American men are apparently more likely to have a certain personality trait while also having higher circumcision rates. Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Study Links Circumcision to Personality Trait Disorder
Researchers find circumcised men have higher alexithymia scores than intact men. Alexithymia is the inability to process emotions.

The International Journal of Men’s Health has published the first study of its kind to look at the link between the early trauma of circumcision and the personality trait disorder alexithymia. The study, by Dan Bollinger and Robert S. Van Howe, M.D., M.S., FAAP, found that circumcised men are 60% more likely to suffer from alexithymia, the inability to process emotions.

People suffering from alexithymia have difficulty identifying and expressing their emotions. This translates into not being able to empathize with others. Sufferers of severe alexithymia are so removed from their feelings that they view themselves as being robots. If acquired at an early age, such as from infant circumcision, it might limit access to language and impede the socialization process that begins early in life. Moderate to high alexithymia can interfere with personal relationships and hinder psychotherapy. Impulsive behavior is a key symptom of alexithymia, and impulsivity is a precursor to violence.

So there you have it. Circumcised men cannot empathize with or sexually satisfy their wives. Then people will start to think that God is cruel. That the Bible is bad.

As a man who was circumcised in his 20's, I can honestly say the change has been nothing but positive. Most men in the same position have the same opinion. Having said that, there is nothing wrong with not being circumcised either.

Saying that it plays a crucial role in intercourse is utterly ridiculous.